EPISODE · Apr 30, 2025 · 39 MIN

Inside Sam Altman's Quest to Make AI "Run Like Water"

from Inside the Hive · host Vanity Fair

Sam Altman didn’t want to be the subject of a biography, suggesting the AI revolution is about more than one person, says Keach Hagey, a Wall Street Journal reporter and author of “The Optimist.” But on this episode, host and Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Radhika Jones, along with executive editor Claire Howorth and Hive editor Michael Calderone, go deep on the man himself, speaking with Hagey about Altman’s progressive politics, friendship with Peter Thiel, feud with Elon Musk, and dealings with Donald Trump, along with his brief exit from OpenAI—aka “The Blip”—and vision for this potentially world-altering technology.  Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices