INTERVIEW: Jacinda Ardern on empathy + knowing when to quit

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Jacinda Ardern has become an iconic figure. And at 45, her political career is already behind her. She became the leader of her party just weeks before she was elected Prime Minister of New Zealand, and a few months after that she gave birth.In office, she got noticed way beyond New Zealand, from her response to the terrorist attack in Christchurch to her decision to lock down and seal the country off from the world during COVID. After stepping down as PM, she's turned her focus from New Zealand to the world. In this interview, Jacinda speaks to Dave Marchese about burnout, growing up Mormon, the state of politics right now, and knowing when to call time.Guest: Jacinda Ardern, former NZ prime ministerGet the whole story from Hack:Follow us on InstagramSubscribe to the hack podcastListen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

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Jacinda Ardern has become an iconic figure. And at 45, her political career is already behind her. She became the leader of her party just weeks before she was elected Prime Minister of New Zealand, and a few months after that she gave birth. In office, she got noticed way beyond New Zealand, from her response to the terrorist attack in Christchurch to her decision to lock down and seal the country off from the world during COVID. After stepping down as PM, she's turned her focus from New Zealand to the world. In this interview, Jacinda speaks to Dave Marchese about burnout, growing up Mormon, the state of politics right now, and knowing when to call time. Guest: Jacinda Ardern, former NZ prime minister Get the whole story from Hack: Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to the hack podcast Listen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

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