INTERVIEW: Why these Venezuelans say Maduro had to go

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It's been a crazy few days in Venezuela.On Saturday, the US dropped bombs on the country's capital Caracas while US special forces descended on a compound where the president Nicolás Maduro was staying, capturing him and his wife and flying them both to the US.Then a few days later, Maduro appeared in court in New York, charged with drug trafficking and terrorism crimes.The reaction has been a mixed bag: from widespread concern the US is breaking international law, to many labelling president Donald Trump a hero.But many Venezuelans feel their voices have not been getting enough attention.In this ep, Dave catches up with two Venezuelans living in Australia.They talk about why they left Venezuela, what it feels like to see Maduro stand trial, and what they hope happens next.Guests: Lamira, Venezuelan musician living in AustraliaSamantha Oviedo, Venezuelan living in AustraliaGet the whole story from Hack:Follow us on InstagramSubscribe to the hack podcastListen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

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It's been a crazy few days in Venezuela. On Saturday, the US dropped bombs on the country's capital Caracas while US special forces descended on a compound where the president Nicolás Maduro was staying, capturing him and his wife and flying them both to the US. Then a few days later, Maduro appeared in court in New York, charged with drug trafficking and terrorism crimes. The reaction has been a mixed bag: from widespread concern the US is breaking international law, to many labelling president Donald Trump a hero. But many Venezuelans feel their voices have not been getting enough attention. In this ep, Dave catches up with two Venezuelans living in Australia. They talk about why they left Venezuela, what it feels like to see Maduro stand trial, and what they hope happens next. Guests: Lamira, Venezuelan musician living in Australia Samantha Oviedo, Venezuelan living in Australia Get the whole story from Hack: Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to the hack podcast Listen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

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