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EPISODE · May 1, 2026 · 41 MIN

Interview with an Afrikaner Refugee ft. Jason Bartlett

from Restoring Order · host Patrick Casey

Note: Jason was kind enough to take some time out of his workday to do this interview. But given that it was not as long as the average Restoring Order episode, I have opted not to paywall it. If you’re here for the first time, though, be sure to subscribe to keep up with and support my work. Thank you!Jason Bartlett is a white South African in Alabama. He joins me to discuss his journey. Restoring Order is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.To begin, Jason recounts his upbringing in South Africa. He provides a firsthand account of the transition from apartheid to race communism. Believe it or not, South Africa is not better off today. This leads to a discussion of accelerationism. I ask Jason whether right-wingers in America who think things need to get worse before they get better are delusional. You’ll never guess his response. Later, I ask Jason what the solution to South Africa’s problem is – assuming there is one. We talk about the high level of corruption in third-world countries and why Western liberals take so much for granted. Jason and I discuss mass immigration to America. Does he think it’s a problem? Tune in to find out. Follow Jason Bartlett on Twitter This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.patrickcasey.com/subscribe

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