Interview with former Secretary of State Gen. Colin Powell; Interview with Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson; Interview with Congressional Black Caucus Chair Rep. Karen Bass

First, Jake talks with former Secretary of State Gen. Colin Powell in a wide-ranging interview on President Trump's leadership during nationwide protests on racial injustice and America's role in the world. Powell says he is supporting former Vice President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. Then, Jake interviews Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson on whether the President's recent comments and tweets are exacerbating racial tensions in the United States. Then, Jake asks Congressional Black Caucus Chair Rep. Karen Bass about calls to defund the police and her legislation to address police brutality. Finally, Jake takes on the lies we've seen from local police departments about violent incidents caught on video. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices