Interviewing while watching the sunrise over the ocean in Australia while discussing helping women get out of self-help jail - with Melanie Wheatley

Melanie was a blast, but I'm being selfish. She got up at the butt crack of dawn to talk with me. I use video so I connect better to the people I interview and I got to watch the sunrise out the window behind her, over the ocean, off the Gulf Coast in Australia! Plus, we're both dorks. So there is that. We discussed moving, being married, living through a plane crash, fire, floods, death, cyclones, being sick and stress. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/becoming-parents/message