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EPISODE · Mar 8, 2026 · 1H 59M

Iran Panel: War, Oil, & China—What Happens Next?

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The boys are joined by Simone Ledeen, who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East at the U.S. Department of Defense, and Drew Berquist, who spent more than 20 years in national security, including work with the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency supporting intelligence and counterterrorism operations. Together they break down the rapidly evolving situation involving Iran, Israel, and the United States, analyzing military developments, intelligence signals, and the potential for regime instability inside Tehran. The discussion also explores how Iran fits into China’s broader geopolitical strategy and why Middle East conflicts are increasingly tied to great-power competition and shifting global alliances.Chapters: 00:00 Expert Introductions and Backgrounds02:41 Diverse Perspectives on U.S. Actions in Iran08:44 Intelligence Insights and Military Operations13:38 The Nuclear Threat and Its Implications17:15 Speculation on Political Dynamics and Decision-Making22:03 Differing Goals: U.S. vs. Israeli Strategies28:24 The People's Desire for Secular Leadership30:39 Challenges of Regime Change32:26 The Kurdish Factor in Middle Eastern Politics34:34 Speculations on Kurdish Armament38:20 The Complexity of Kurdish Alliances40:38 Potential Outcomes of a New Iran47:48 Reflections on Military Effectiveness52:08 Geopolitical Implications of U.S. Actions53:58 Connections Between Venezuela and Iran57:51 China's Role in Middle Eastern Dynamics01:01:31 China's Influence in the Middle East01:03:51 The Dynamics of Saudi-China Relations01:05:18 Taiwan: A Strategic Flashpoint01:06:41 The U.S.-China Economic Tug-of-War01:10:23 The Role of the EU in Global Politics01:12:52 Canada's Shift Towards China01:16:18 The Future of U.S. Global Leadership01:33:55 The Complex Web of Influence in Afghanistan01:36:04 Iran's Role in China's Belt and Road Initiative01:39:00 Canada's Geopolitical Position and Its Implications01:46:22 The Future of U.S.-Iran Relations01:50:45 Reflections on Military Operations and Strategic Goals

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