Is a new 'axis of evil' emerging?

You know things aren't good when Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un sign a mutual defence pact... could it be that a powerful new anti-western axis is emerging between Russia, China, North Korea and Iran? Plus, we get an insight into how Ukrainians feel about being caught in this geopolitical quagmire. Guests:Alisa Sopova - Ukrainian journalist and anthropologist.Sir Lawrence Freedman - Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King's College London.Recommendations:Geraldine: We’re in 1938 now: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history - Patrick Wintour in the Guardian.Hamish: Premier Li Qiang’s visit has Malaysia wanting more from China pivot - Financial Times.Get in touch:We'd love to hear from you! Email us at [email protected]