EPISODE · Aug 23, 2024 · 1H 9M
Is AI good or bad for artists? ft. Simon Zhu
from Teatime With Jesse · host Jesse Appell
Another artist on the pooood! This is an exciting one with painter, designer, and creative technologist, Simon Zhu. In this Teatime with Jesse, we delve into different art styles from ancient Chinese landscape painting, Western oil painting, and even AI-generated digital images. Simon and I chat about how technology influences creativity, art, and the democratization of media. Oh, and we might have some mercy coming! Try the Tibetan Dark Tea: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/tibetan-dark-tea Get the Taiwan Oolong Sampler Box: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/jesse-in-taiwan-mystery-tea-drop Join Jesse's Tea Club: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/jesses-tea-club-subscription-service?variant=43241340567777 #aiart #artificialintelligence #chinesepainting #chineseteaculture #tibetandarktea #tibetantea #tibetanart #looseleaftea #gongfucha #gongfutea #kungfutea 0:35 Meet Simon 01:00 We’re designing a tea set and merchandise 01:50 Jesse’s tea set is legit 02:22 Lots of influencers, not enough tea people 03:00 Learning from Tibetan art practice 03:40: Tibetan black tea 04:07 Tibetan tea is salty 04:34 Tibetan tea smells creamy 05:10 Yak butter tea 05:30 Where do I get yak butter in Southern California 06:00 Black tea, dark tea, etc 07:00 Tibetan tea would be so good with milk 07:44 Growing up with Buddhism and being drawn to the art form 09:13 The history of trade between the US and China 12:00 What is a thangka 13:16 Thangkas are scrolls, rolled-up paintings 15:50 Learning different styles of painting 16:28 Localizing art 17:40 Traditional art and modern digital art 21:06 Understanding art and designing a product 22:07 Western art vs. Chinese art 22:42 Impressionism 23:00 Expressing feelings in art 25:00 Jesse got started during COVID 28:30 Chinese painting styles 29:08 Song dynasty landscape paintings 30:34 There’s a reason for everything 31:25 Designing landscapes from a technical standpoint 35:00 Fine art vs. performance art vs. design 36:50 As an artist you have to sell something 37:31 AI and Artists 38:18 There is always a human element in the art process 39:30 Does AI technology enhance artistry 40:17 Fear of AI is valid 41:39 The importance of transparency when we’re using technology 43:12 The Internet is always hungry 44:00 Misinformation around AI 45:23 What is art 46:30 Traditional art will make a comeback 46:44 The democratization of art 47:44 Chalets in Yunnan 48:13 Yunnan is like Switzerland 49:10 Jesse’s tea tours 49:30 Mushrooms from Yunnan 52:00 Qing dynasty trends 53:08 Hair volume 53:33 Are tea trees bushy 56:04 Scale and perspective in Chinese art 57:03 Han Chinese roofs 58:10 The illusion of passing through space and time 59:00 We want the tea set out by Christmas 59:32 Jesse is not a fashion designer 1:00:28 What kind of merch should we have 1:01:50 Should we make a tea journal 1:06:00 Lightning round 1:04:46 Is there a tea god 1:07:08 Realism and subjective ideas in art 1:07:48 Don’t be replaced by AI 1:08:10 Gifting Simon a tea pet 1:09:10 Join Jesse’s tea club to try new tea
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Another artist on the pooood! This is an exciting one with painter, designer, and creative technologist, Simon Zhu. In this Teatime with Jesse, we delve into different art styles from ancient Chinese landscape painting, Western oil painting, and even AI-generated digital images. Simon and I chat about how technology influences creativity, art, and the democratization of media. Oh, and we might have some mercy coming! Try the Tibetan Dark Tea: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/tibetan-dark-tea Get the Taiwan Oolong Sampler Box: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/jesse-in-taiwan-mystery-tea-drop Join Jesse's Tea Club: https://jessesteahouse.com/products/jesses-tea-club-subscription-service?variant=43241340567777 #aiart #artificialintelligence #chinesepainting #chineseteaculture #tibetandarktea #tibetantea #tibetanart #looseleaftea #gongfucha #gongfutea #kungfutea 0:35 Meet Simon 01:00 We’re designing a tea set and merchandise 01:50 Jesse’s tea set is legit 02:22 Lots of influencers, not enough tea people 03:00 Learning from Tibetan art practice 03:40: Tibetan black tea 04:07 Tibetan tea is salty 04:34 Tibetan tea smells creamy 05:10 Yak butter tea 05:30 Where do I get yak butter in Southern California 06:00 Black tea, dark tea, etc 07:00 Tibetan tea would be so good with milk 07:44 Growing up with Buddhism and being drawn to the art form 09:13 The history of trade between the US and China 12:00 What is a thangka 13:16 Thangkas are scrolls, rolled-up paintings 15:50 Learning different styles of painting 16:28 Localizing art 17:40 Traditional art and modern digital art 21:06 Understanding art and designing a product 22:07 Western art vs. Chinese art 22:42 Impressionism 23:00 Expressing feelings in art 25:00 Jesse got started during COVID 28:30 Chinese painting styles 29:08 Song dynasty landscape paintings 30:34 There’s a reason for everything 31:25 Designing landscapes from a technical standpoint 35:00 Fine art vs. performance art vs. design 36:50 As an artist you have to sell something 37:31 AI and Artists 38:18 There is always a human element in the art process 39:30 Does AI technology enhance artistry 40:17 Fear of AI is valid 41:39 The importance of transparency when we’re using technology 43:12 The Internet is always hungry 44:00 Misinformation around AI 45:23 What is art 46:30 Traditional art will make a comeback 46:44 The democratization of art 47:44 Chalets in Yunnan 48:13 Yunnan is like Switzerland 49:10 Jesse’s tea tours 49:30 Mushrooms from Yunnan 52:00 Qing dynasty trends 53:08 Hair volume 53:33 Are tea trees bushy 56:04 Scale and perspective in Chinese art 57:03 Han Chinese roofs 58:10 The illusion of passing through space and time 59:00 We want the tea set out by Christmas 59:32 Jesse is not a fashion designer 1:00:28 What kind of merch should we have 1:01:50 Should we make a tea journal 1:06:00 Lightning round 1:04:46 Is there a tea god 1:07:08 Realism and subjective ideas in art 1:07:48 Don’t be replaced by AI 1:08:10 Gifting Simon a tea pet 1:09:10 Join Jesse’s tea club to try new tea
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