Is Bethel Church Past the Point of No Return?

There are still God-fearing, God-loving people attending Bethel Church. That's exactly what makes this episode hard to make. But in light of recent events, we have to ask: Have we reached the point of mark and avoid? This is a one-stop, 30-minute review of concerns with Bethel to see the patterns. ABOUT THIS EPISODE: Remnant Radio has kept an eye on Bethel for years - through the grave soaking scandal, through Bill Johnson's daughter-in-law describing the Holy Spirit as a "genie," through the New Age framework quietly baked into Physics of Heaven, through Culture of Honor, through Bob Jones and Kenneth Copeland getting platformed anyway, and now through Shawn Bolz. We have reviewed many of these practices and situations over the years, and our comments have grown firmer and sterner toward Bethel leadership. Now there's a new development, and it's not about doctrine. According to Mike Winger's sources, the people currently being let go at Bethel are the ones who kept asking the questions about transformation and change. If that's accurate, it isn't a staffing decision, but a pattern about the thinking and decision making of Bethel leadership. So Josh asks the question a lot of Bethel's own alumni have been asking quietly for months, and finally says out loud what he's suspected for a while: is this still a church working through its mistakes, or has leadership moved somewhere it can't recover from? Are we at mark and avoid? This isn't a pile-on. It's for the people who've genuinely loved this church and are trying to figure out what faithfulness looks like now that the pattern is this clear. 0:00 – Introduction 0:22 – Bethel Controversy Background 3:55 – Grave Soaking & Genie Scandal 5:34 – Michael Brown Interviews Bill Johnson 6:20 – Winger's First Bethel Review 7:21 – Physics Of Heaven Exposed 8:32 – Kenneth Copeland Endorsement 8:58 – Shawn Bolz Scandal Breaks 10:03 – Winger Exposes Shawn Bolz 13:56 – Bethel's Public Apology 16:47 – Passion Translation Plagiarism 17:23 – Layoffs And NDAs 20:01 – NDA Rights And Scripture 27:01 – PR Versus Real Repentance 29:54 – Examine Your Own Church PLAYLIST ON POLICING THE CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMsjeViSScFHSZqA1Q85VKxRrkvEYXBec PREVIOUS RR EPISODES OF BETHEL CHURCH: 2020 - https://youtu.be/sOTdC5LnrVA 2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soFFhiYZY-E 2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMkKILXkKWs 2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRvpVqmk5RU 2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6k91pFZWVc 2022 - https://youtu.be/w8b7y7mWIvg 2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XlUPjWRqpc 2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hseSRlFKzSM 2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTcgjtvc91E 2022 - https://youtu.be/9Bys8_ylGUk 2026 - https://youtu.be/TN6UbN0Vq6E 2026 - https://youtu.be/NSWzRCDTPNU 2026 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1-rugrYZM 2026 - https://youtu.be/PEKIozi7Cjc 2026 - https://youtu.be/z0PTDwlpQPo 2026 - https://youtu.be/AcXNqe4vg6E Subscribe to The Remnant Radio newsletter and receive our FREE introduction to spiritual gifts eBook. Plus, get access to: discounts, news about upcoming shows, courses and conferences - and more. Subscribe now at TheRemnantRadio.com. Support the show ABOUT THE REMNANT RADIO: The Remnant Radio exists to equip believers who are hungry for the radical middle of both Word and Spirit. Subscribe for twice-weekly content on theology, church history and the gifts of the Spirit. 📧 SUBSCRIBE TO NEWSLETTER 📚 COURSES & CONFERENCES 🛒 SHOP MERCH 💝 SUPPORT OUR MINISTRY: • Leave a Tip • Become a Patron • Make a Tax-Deductible Donation 🌐📧 Check Out Our Church Pages Josh's Church Miller's Church Rowntree's Church