Is our immigration policy working, with Abul Rizvi

What is the minimum number of new arrivals Australia needs to be sustainable? And what are the details of Labor's "bigger Australia policy"?  Abul Rizvi is one of Australia's most well-known policy speakers, and was a senior official in the Department of Immigration.  Unpack his views on the current migration landscape with host Scott Phillips. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.