Is the 4% Rule Bad Advice? – Mark Trautman | MHFI 314 episode artwork

EPISODE · Apr 7, 2026 · 52 MIN

Is the 4% Rule Bad Advice? – Mark Trautman | MHFI 314

from Mile High FI Podcast · host Doug Cunnington & Carl Jensen

Doug chats with Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind) about the relevance of The 4% Rule in modern retirement planning.  They explore whether it remains a solid “north star” for those in the accumulation phase or if it has become an outdated guideline that potentially hinders retirees from living their best lives.  Mark also shares his personal transition from a high-saver to a strategic retiree focused on decumulation & creating memory dividends. Do you like the podcast and want to support the show?  Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/ Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses?  Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you! Guitar Accessories Hiking & Outdoor Essentials for Sleep Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers?  Of course you do!  We ALL do!  Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington Links Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind David Chilton, “The Wealthy Barber” Paperback William Bengen, “A Richer Retirement” Kindle Hardcover Audiobook Audio CD Retirement and IRA Show Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero” Kindle Hardcover Paperback Audiobook Big ERN on MHFI episode 280 Aubrey Williams, “Everyone Adjusts! Use Historical Analysis Risk-Based Guardrails to Reach FI Sooner!” ProjectionLab MHFI Facebook group Doug’s site Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey — Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles Email the show: [email protected] 0:00 Introduction 1:12 Discovering & defining the 4% Rule 6:32 Mark’s portfolio & retirement strategy 12:46 Why 4% misses reality 19:13 Die With Zero & spending 26:52 Stress testing projections 31:41 Guardrails 35:06 Agile retirement planning 41:24 Mark’s Money Mind 47:02 Soundcheck – Travel

Doug chats with Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind) about the relevance of The 4% Rule in modern retirement planning.  They explore whether it remains a solid “north star” for those in the accumulation phase or if it has become an outdated guideline that potentially hinders retirees from living their best lives.  Mark also shares his personal transition from a high-saver to a strategic retiree focused on decumulation & creating memory dividends. Do you like the podcast and want to support the show?  Follow the link to find out how: https://milehighfi.com/support/ Curious to know exactly what products Doug uses?  Check out his Amazon lists below. *Affiliate links below, so if you buy something or spend money, we might earn a commission. That helps the show and doesn’t cost you anything extra. Thank you! Guitar Accessories Hiking & Outdoor Essentials for Sleep Want to order MHFI stickers/temporary tattoos or create your own custom stickers?  Of course you do!  We ALL do!  Order them here using our affiliate link so that we might earn a commission: https://www.stickermule.com/dougcunnington Links Mark Trautman/Mark’s Money Mind David Chilton, “The Wealthy Barber” Paperback William Bengen, “A Richer Retirement” Kindle Hardcover Audiobook Audio CD Retirement and IRA Show Bill Perkins, “Die With Zero” Kindle Hardcover Paperback Audiobook Big ERN on MHFI episode 280 Aubrey Williams, “Everyone Adjusts! Use Historical Analysis Risk-Based Guardrails to Reach FI Sooner!” ProjectionLab MHFI Facebook group Doug’s site Check out Producer Chris’s blog: Epic Financial Journey — Join the Mile High FI Club – It’s the email list! Get MHFi Merch – It helps support the show. Get t-shirts & more **Disclaimer: The podcast is for informational purposes. Maybe entertainment but we won’t even make such a claim. You shouldn’t take the info as financial, legal, or tax advice. We aren’t certified financial planners or advisors. We’re not qualified for much. So get advice from professionals.** Brought To You By: The Doug Show, aka Affiliate Marketing & Side Hustles Email the show: [email protected] 0:00 Introduction 1:12 Discovering & defining the 4% Rule 6:32 Mark’s portfolio & retirement strategy 12:46 Why 4% misses reality 19:13 Die With Zero & spending 26:52 Stress testing projections 31:41 Guardrails 35:06 Agile retirement planning 41:24 Mark’s Money Mind 47:02 Soundcheck – Travel

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Doug chats with Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind) about the relevance of The 4% Rule in modern retirement planning.  They explore whether it remains a solid “north star” for those in the accumulation phase or if it has become an outdated guideline...

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