Islands of Excellence (Glenn Loury & Robert L. Woodson, Sr.)

How Bob joined and eventually split with the civil rights movement ... Critiquing the government bureaucracy of the American welfare state ... Bob: Affirmative action has been exploited by middle-class blacks ... Black achievement during the century after the Civil War ... Glenn asks, "what is to be done?" ... Bob: "I don't have any choice but to be optimistic" ... Glenn: "Black people ought not to be taught to hate our country" ... This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe