Hello and welcome to Justice Losers, the most unqualified podcast discussing entertainment, news, and reviews. I'm your host, Preston Dorn, as always, by my delightful co-host, Matt. Matt, what should people do? Swag yellow, bro. Oh. Sorry, I got my hat on backwards. You got your hat on backwards. You got it on backwards the first time, too. Yeah, I was able to contain it, but... Contain it? Contain it. I was able to contain it, but I had so much pinked-up energy that I just needed to burst out with a swag yellow, bro. Wow, you didn't... You went a long time without devolving at all. Yeah. Hold on. Ain't you proud of me? No, I'm gonna do the whole episode in this accent. You're just gonna have to live with it, mate.
I'm happy to live with it. See how far you can get with it. Don't tempt me. I've been reading some comics a little bit. It might not technically be the crit interpretation. I've read a graphic novel. The Autumnal. Autumnal. It's going to be a really hard one to say with this. I don't know how it's supposed to sound. So I'm just going to say The Autumnal in my normal accent. Yeah, it's by... You can also cut this bit at any point if you want.
No. Alright. You've got me going now. Alright. Yeah, so The Eternal, it's, I don't even remember what company produced it. It's like Vault or something. Vault Comics? Never heard of them. Yeah, real off-brand. Last time I went to the comic store, I had my birthday reward, so I thought I'd go in and get me something. You got this with your birthday reward? Yeah. Did you get this seven months ago, or did you just now use your... No, you got it seven months ago. You just now read it? Yeah. I'm just sitting collecting dust for seven months. It's called The Eternal, mate. I can't be reading it in the springtime. Fair enough.
uh so read the tunnel um yeah basically i thought oh i like awesome cover that's kind of cool it's like a girl and she's got like a boing coming out her mouth Okay. A little disturbing. Yeah, so it's quite cool. It's basically witches, but with... Are you familiar with witches by the Scott Snyder? Yeah. It's basically exactly that, but with more pretty leaves, like on the trees. Literally just the same book, but slightly different backdrop. No, it does some different things themetically to all the end, especially, but the contours of the plot are roughly kind of similar. You really danced on a rough word right there, bud. You almost... You kind of did say it, but... Yeah, I think Gage could be unsuritable with the edit there.
It's okay, it means something different down under. It's true. Literally only our country hates that word. Yeah. So basically, the plot follows a single mother and a nine-year-old daughter after the mom's mother dies. And they inherit her house, which is in the small town of Comfort Notch. Comfort Notch? Yeah. Some of the more cynical characters refer to it as Comfort Crotch, which I find delightful. Okay. And so she goes back to clean up the house and maybe settle in a small town, new beginnings, all that. She's had kind of a rough life.
Get your doctor into a nice school system and it's a town that advertises America's prettiest autumn on its little signs that you jog into town. And so it's a nice idyllic little small town with creepy things going on under the surface and there are reveals along the way in sort of interesting underlying mythology and it all connects into some interesting thematic ground. If not for the fact that it was quite derivative of witches, I would be wholeheartedly delighted with it. Who wrote it? It's a fantastic question. I'm glad you've asked me that question. Why don't you go ahead and look that up while I talk about the fact that the art is quite pretty as well.
I don't know who did the art, but I imagine that's something you could find out for me in about 10 seconds here. Is it Daniel Krauss? It seems familiar. It's the Autumnal, the complete series. Yeah, that'd be the one. I think it's eight issues, something like that. Five out of five. Vault. Yeah, Vault. V-A-U-L-T comics. Yeah, Vault. I realize when I say it like that, it sounds like Vault. V-O-L-T. That's what I thought you were saying. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, even setting side effect that it is quite derivative. That's a lot of names attached to this book. It's a real solid book. I quite enjoyed it. I think you'll quite enjoy it as well. It's a fun time. Yeah, it is awesome. So I suppose I'd be lending it to you so you can read it at a significantly appropriate time.
Yeah, David Krause is the writer, and then it's kind of hard to tell who is responsible for the art. Right? Maybe it's not. David Krause and two more. Illustrator is Chris Shahan. Shahan. Chris Shahan. I've never heard of him. Yeah, I mean, it's indie. Pretty indie. No, it's quite good. They really enjoyed it. Cool. Let's see. I watched Halloween Town.
Oh, Caitlin's been watching that. Yeah. The classic Disney Channel original movie. Yeah. Rules don't matter in that universe, do they? Not even slightly. Well, we don't have a spell for this. It's okay. We can just make one up. You couldn't do that when you were stuck out of time? I guess that's in the second one. Yeah, it's brilliant. I've only seen the first one. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, the first one, I mean, it's a campy 90s Disney Channel original movie. You get what you're going to get. But it's enjoyable for what it is. It's a fun case to characters and a bunch of really terrible monster masks. It's fun. It's a good time.
Mark Mothersbaugh did the music, who you might recognise as the, I believe, Oscar-nominated composer for the school for- Nominated? Nominated. That's how we say it down under. Don't question it, mate. Oscar-nominated, I believe, school for Thor Ragnarok. What? Mark Mothersbaugh. I don't know who did it.
Mark Mothersbaugh. Yeah, he was in a band. He was in a band in the 80s. And then he did the school for Halloween Town. You want to know what else he did score for? Yo, Gabba Gabba. Oh, nice. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. The Rugrats movie. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2. Good stuff, good stuff. It has not given me any big ones.
It's not helpful, is it? Go to IMDb, look at his whole filmography. He did 21 Jump Street. That's a real movie. The Hotel Transylvania. There's Thor Ragnarok. I'm not convinced Hotel Transylvania is a real movie. I think it's just a magazine campaign. You go to the theater and they're just like, have some popcorn, but you get your next movie. No one's ever actually seen the movie. We just get like McDonald's toys of them and just ads for it and stuff. Yeah, it just doesn't exist. Just themed stereos. Pee-wee's Big Holiday. Rugrats in Paris. Lego movies. Oh, nice. Pitch Perfect 2. Nice, I think.
I don't think he did score. He may be in score. Because who scored score? Did somebody score? Do you know what I'm talking about? No. Oh, it's a documentary about scoring movies and stuff. But given that it's about scoring. Yeah, he wanted to assume he pierces himself in there. There's Halloween Town. Yeah. He also did How to Eat Your Fried Worms, Halloween Town 2, Calloward's Revenge. Alvin and the Chipmunks. I must say, it was quite upsetting seeing the title of Halloween Town 2 before watching Halloween Town 1. Oh, he gets defeated! Oh, man, who's this spooky... Who's going to be the villain? Who's this spooky guy? But I was like, I actually know who it is because I know who's getting revenge in the second movie. Yeah, it's like going in episode 3.
the name of episode three before you start watching episode four. And you're like, who's the Sith? Yeah, except, like, don't use the word Sith. Oh, shit, you're right. Do they? Uh, when did they first mention Sith? Is it episode one? Is it Sith completely? I have an impression in the back of my head that that's the case, but I have all the words information. Because, like, Yoda and Obi-Wan definitely talk about...
like, the dark side and Vader and, like, Palpatine as, like, being dark side users. Yeah. Okay, so, on screen, it's first mentioned in The Phantom Menace, but it was around a novelization of the original. Yeah. It was first used in the rough draft of Star Wars with the first, oh, oh, it was actually in the rough draft of episode four. Yeah, okay. But, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, yep. Yeah, novelization as titled with Keyville and Darth Vader, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Interesting.
All right. Okay. Anyway, Halloween Town. It's quite a roll. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Never going to watch it. I won't say thoroughly enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it. Have a couple beers, eat some popcorn. All right. Not a bad time. Let's see. I think that's most of the other things I have continued to watch. Rings of Power, House of the Dragon, and Endor. Endor's really good. Let's talk about Endor. It's really good. No final comments given that it's over? No, it's not over. What? This season is halfway over. Are you serious?
Oh, thank God! I was honestly like, because the end of this episode feels like it could be the end of a season. And I was like, that was so good. It was such a good coherent story. It had an end. No, we are halfway done, mate. Oh, yeah! Best news I heard today! The look on your face when I said it was only halfway done. If I could just capture that feeling and market it, that would be pure liquid happiness right there. That was beautiful to watch. Oh my God, I'm so excited. I thought it was over, because that was six episodes, right? No, they're doing two 12-episode seasons.
um where do they go from here because now it's just like they did literally the whole thing of like the end of it being like well it's just getting started like that like yeah the the game is on kind of stuff and i'm like cool the next season's gonna be great well it's kind of an effect of how they structured it um so tony gilroy who is kind of the showrunner the creator um and i talked about this a little bit a couple of weeks ago but he's a guy who uh came in and uh saved rogue one in the edit um he is structuring it as basically a series of three episode chunks that can be judged i can 100% see that Which is a very logical way to do it. You get little self-contained arcs, but it sort of progresses throughout. And so, yeah, now I have some theories, knowing a little bit about some of the Legends Beck story, about what could happen. About the what? Legends Beck story. Oh, backstory. Got it. I mean, I've been keeping up the whole time, except for just Beck story. Beck story. It was like pens? Like Beck pens? Yeah, Beck story. Yeah. He goes to a pen factory. That's what they spend all that money on, is a whole bunch of pens. Yeah. No, yeah, he's, well, because they've left the character thus far at a fascinating point, where he's sort of materially invested.
in the rebellion because he's aligned himself with them and he's on the run but he isn't like morally aligned with them yet at this point so he needs to get some sort of personal investment in it and there's a lot of directions I could take that I think at some point they're going to tie him into some of the stuff that Mon Mothma's been referencing sort of off screen I think they're going to link into that I'm loving what they're doing with her oh she's so good like the fact that she's literally just like like the family is not great and I can't wait to see more of that like because as of right now we don't know we can assume that they don't know anything about what she's doing under the table but like what if they do and maybe they don't like that or like or do they like as we assume just not like the empire and her for being complicit air quotes with the Empire and participating in the Empire. I want more of that family dynamic. Now that they brought the daughter in, I gotta know they had a kid. Yeah, she's a sexy teenager. And suddenly there's just that sassy teenager. I thought you said sexy and I was like, easy dude. You got this sassy teenager. It's like an actress is probably like 24 or something. That's true. So I'm really excited about them on Mothma. It's gonna be really awkward if the actress is actually not 24. Time to Google it. We're gonna find out if you're a registered sex offender now. No, I'm not registered. I'm not registered for that. I mean, you're gonna get. Apparently. This is gonna go on the internet. Gage can cut it out. Gage can save your life. Save me, Gage. Never piss off your editor. Let's see. And or I need IMDB.
no but this is a perfect sort of mid-season episode where it's like it's first climax but there's a lot of exciting directions I can take it from here but it just beautiful episode Yeah, I don't even know. Just massively executed heist. Gorgeous visuals with the eye. Yes. There's something I really appreciate about this that I think feels like the same people that did Rogue One is a lot of respect for just the visual of the world. Like, Rogue One was a lot of just bland cityscapes and desert planets and rocks and whatnot. This feels like a universe. And there's vistas and there's meteor showers and there's TIE fighters roaring so low overhead that it shakes the ground. It's magnificent. Do you remember her name by any chance? No. Pond Mothma?
It's twos Mothma. They're all like abbreviations of weekdays. One Mothma daughter. Lita. That's played by Bronte Carmichael who is wait for it in Christopher Nolan and also Game of Thrones. Oh. If she's actually 24 you owe me $100. She's Martha in Game of Thrones. I'm not agreeing to that. In season 8. Okay. So mostly forgettable. Wait. Except not forgettable. I love Game of Thrones and the full seasons. Six seasons and a movie!
It gives me everything about her. It gives me birthplace, her zodiac sign. I have her body type, height, weight, hair color, eye color, and shoe size, but not her age. What is this? That's legitimately a little strange. It's like the fact that it's nowhere.
I'm becoming more into, it's a Chinese finger trap for me. The less I can, like, I mean, there's a bunch of pictures of her as a child, but also that's because, what, even if she's like 21, it's easy enough to find pictures of her when she's like 12. Yeah, well, if she's in that Christopher Robin movie, that was like seven years ago or something, and presumably she played... Probably this one. Probably, she's 17. Bronte, born 2000, October 24, 2006. Yeah, that's what I'm getting, yeah. Okay, so it's not a mystery. So it's still not legal.
Awkward. The fact that we had to go like full investigative journalism. Do you have such a low opinion of investigative journalists that you think they just sit around and giggle things all day on the phone? Yeah. I mean, maybe the standard of investigative journalism you're getting on TikTok maybe, mate. Like Snap Boom Gossam. All right. That was a long tangent. That is a long weird tangent. Gage is going to cut it all out. All unnecessary. That's probably for the best. Yep. I'm excited to see more about that family. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah.
Yes, the eyes. The eye was beautiful. The sets. Because they're all practical. Yeah. Like, oh god, they put so much time and money into this show. Oh yeah. It shows, and we get six more of it. Yay. And then 12 more next year. 12 more next year? Maybe the year after. Oh yeah. Okay, I thought you were going to say they've already confirmed that they released it in the queue. Immotive. Huh? Immotive.
I doubt it. They're probably in production right now. Probably. Speaking of release dates, I didn't mention this in the news, but Dune got pushed up two weeks. Oh, really? Dune 2, yeah. What's the date? First weekend in November next year. I was about to say, what? You want to do the trailer? Yeah. We're almost a year out. Yeah. That's going to be nuts. More dib. More dib. I thought you said more dib. More dib.
Alright. Anything else you want to say about Andor? I described it to someone this week as unreasonably good. That's fair. It's a spin-off of a spin-off from a company that's not been having a great track record with its spin-offs of spin-offs recently. Or even with its originals. And it's made by a guy that does not care about Star Wars that much. And it is...
Fantastic. It is quite the show. I have suggested it wholeheartedly to as many people as I can. Yeah, it's good. Anything else? I think we should talk about Rings of Power and House of the Dragon when both have concluded their respective first seasons. And also I've seen any of one of them. This gives you a couple weeks buffer because the finale just aired for Rings of Power.
I just started something else that's arguably more important to me. Fair, but it's only eight episodes, mate. And there's like elves and stuff and they stab each other. It's fun. I may binge it when Kalen's gone this weekend. Yeah, it's watchable. But yeah, because we'll want to do a nice compare and contrast to see who won the fantasy streaming wars of August 2022. We've got two more weeks of Game of Thrones, right? Yeah, that's correct. So we'll watch episode nine this week, episode 10 next week, and then we'll record. No.
Because it comes out on Sundays. Right, so we're recording this weekend. I don't think I'm in town that next weekend. We'll make it work. We'll figure it out. We'll do a fun little compare and contrast. You get that to look forward to. Never mind, I am in town. Who won the streaming wars? We did. Because we got Andor. And also, I haven't seen Rings of Power yet. Also, how's the dragon? He's pretty good.
thoroughly enjoying this freaking show. All right. My jaw dropped. Are you caught up? Yes. My jaw dropped at a around and find out. The most glorious around and find out scene in all of cinematic history. I think you're the most glorious. That too. My jaw hit the floor. I was not like I knew the find out was coming. I was not expecting that. It's so good. Quite good.
I don't like that the future of the kingdom is going to hinge on a sitcom level misunderstanding. That I also am like, oh, come on. Because I'll mention that to Hannah after the episode. We always do a little breakdown and talk about our thoughts and stuff. And she was like, oh, it didn't bother me that much. I was like, I wonder how Preston felt about it. No, I don't actually wonder because he's going to think the same thing as me. We have the same thoughts. It's hinging real close on post-it note theory. And I don't like a show this complex. I've decided that I'm okay with it on the theory that the characters were kind of on that trajectory to begin with. Yeah, it's just kind of like a final straw. Last little impetus.
I think it's unnecessary. I think it's badly done. I think it's indicative of some larger issues with the show, but we'll see how the season finishes out before we get too deep into those weeds in particular. Yeah, sounds good. Cool. Nothing else? Nothing useful. Time for my list of things. Get it. So I am, it's that time of the year, which I'm going to make it an annual thing now, or maybe a biannual thing because I didn't do it last year. I'm reading the Mike Grell run of Green Arrow. All right. Started with Longbow Hunters, and I am currently in Hunter's Moon, the first volume of the actual main run. God, it's good.
It's... Nice. Like, I mean, it's kind of the same thing with Andor, where it's like, Green Arrow was a joke when that came out. Like, they had stopped writing comics with him. This was in the 80s. And he was just like a joke, like, with his gimmicky arrows and stuff. Did you ever read Longbow Hunters? No. You keep threatening to lend it to me, but maybe you'll go around to it. I'll lend it to you when we get home. So, like, prior to it, he was just a joke. Like, he had his punching glove. He's basically Robin Hood with...
stupid arrows yeah and like they tried to do some like get him gritty by having um snowbirds don't fly which is when roy harper gets addicted to heroin um and like that's definitely like a grittier uh story but like heroin swears it huh heroin swears that also in herons it's a good bird um it felt out of place for him and so like it was like well received in isolation but like it was just like he's still a goofy character like why is this happening to green arrow um and uh my girl was like hey i can't remember the exact story of like how he got hold of i think like he came to them like an idea or something like they just gave it to him uh and he just wrote this three each of the issues are 40 pages long so they're like long issues like basically three annuals long and long by inches ain't they mate yeah no kidding um and uh it's with him it starts with him moving to seattle him and dino lance getting settled um and they immediately have him like going existential on like like i've lost what it means to actually like be a hero like i like i relied so much on these like goofy or these uh like these specialty arrows and stuff that like i've lost what it means to be a good archer and that is uh it kind of sets up the sets up shadow who is uh a girl who he then
in the actual run uh interacts with a lot who is like the perfect archer uh and so like it pairs him against her very different personalities kate rook Sure. A little chess pun for you there? It has him, like, questioning wanting a family, like, because he wants a family, but then, like, Dinah doesn't, and, like, it's very reflective on what being a hero means. Having trouble shooting his arrow strikes, is he? Yeah, I want you to die. And it's definitely very gritty, like, but it's just, like, it's just so good. Like, Longbow Hunters on its own is just...
Amazing. And you don't need to read beyond that. Uh, but then Hunter's moon, uh, like when the line picks up is also just equally amazing. Wonderful. Um, it basically like doesn't give you, it gives you a small mystery in the first issue that within that something happens that leads to the bigger mystery, but the bigger mystery isn't really like exactly like talked about until the end of the second issue, but it all keeps you engaged actively. And like, uh, it's just, it's so well written and the art is just, it, it's very, uh, impressionistic.
which is one of my preferred visual art styles like dbc i hate it already yeah uh but like my like my visual like what i like seeing paintings of are like very impressionistic where it's like it's just a bunch of clumps of paint just spread on a board but then when you zoom out it's like this really kind of i follow this guy on tiktok that's like that does these um these like cityscapes of new york that like it's by nature of the way it's done makes it looks like it raining it makes makes it look like it's raining um it's cool i'll show you some pictures of stuff like that it's so cool but like that it gives me that vibe with the art style. So I'm loving it. It's great. I'm going to lend it to you. Anybody who has any interest in reading anything about Green Arrow, absolutely read Longbow Hunters. I have no interest in reading anything about Green Arrow. You don't have a choice. So that's that. I have also started playing Grand Theft Auto 5 because it went on sale on Steam. Oh, I knew that. I saw you a little Steam notification whenever you're playing something on Steam. Yeah, it happens at all times of the day. Don't question it when I should be working and I'm playing Grand Theft Auto 5. I'm on there at the team in the morning and I'm just like doing my lesson prep or whatever and I'm like, well, he's a priest in. He's playing Green Theft Auto. When he should be working. Definitely on the clock right now. Yep.
I have definitely played Grand Theft Auto while during a meeting. Like if it's a meeting, I'm a fly on a wall and I'm just like muted. I'm just like playing and listening. So Grand Theft Auto is made by Rockstar. Same people who made Red Dead Redemption. So you've got a really engaging story with lots of slow meditative walks through nature. And there's some horses. Kind of yes. Which is wild. Okay. All right. So this is something that caught me off guard when I started playing it. Because I had played Grand Theft Auto 4.
way back when I first moved here, like 10 years ago. And like... Need some of the wheelie wheelie steely automobili? Well, it's like, I need to go back and play it because I don't know. But yes, I mean, so the characters are killers and thieves and stuff like that. Like, one of your characters goes on assassination missions and like... Just look into... Did they assassinate?
They didn't assassinate, did they? No. But they did. They do heists. One of the main things you do is do heists and stuff. And these are all guys who are known criminals and stuff, and you break cars and steal the cars and stuff like that. The chances of getting punished for committing crime in Grand Theft Auto is way lower than it is in Red Dead. Literally, you accidentally get on the wrong horse in Red Dead. Someone will turn you in for a $50 bounty, which is a lot in Red Dead, unless you made it really far, and you cannot get away with it.
by just killing somebody. Honestly, they're probably treating you pretty generously. I've been reading a Western novel called Lonesome Dove. I'll talk about it a little more when I've finished. Okay. And there's a minor plot point at one point that Hall's thieves are treated about as badly as murderers in the Old West. Oh. Jeez.
It's a bad thing to steal a man's horse. Yeah. Ought them to do it. Don't do it. Green thief horse. But, so, like, in Grand Theft Auto, the whole world is very crass. Like, everything's sex. There's strippers. There's strippers everywhere. Like, everything is some, like, aggressive joke commentary. There's a company called Life Invader that the owner is literally Mark Zuckerberg.
Not literally. His name isn't literally Mark Zuckerberg. But, like, he's, like, making an announcement of, like, their new, like, Life Invader phone. And he's like, we've been stealing your stuff for so long. Now it's time to do something with it. Give us your, like, life information. Like, it's obvious. Like, just critiques on everything. It's never been a free choice known for its subtlety. Exactly. But, like...
if you do take the time to, like, you've got your connections and your contacts and there's, like, people you can call and, like, hang out with. You get these little stories, these little fun stories of, like, what's the deal? So you've got one of the main characters, Michael. He is in... My voice has been getting really hoarse over this entire recording session. Green Thief Tools! So he's in Witness Protection Program with his wife, who cheats on him, and his two kids who are absolute spoiled brats. Like, they're like the rich LA family. Because he made a lot of money because of what he did to get into Witness Protection Program. And his son is an absolute deadbeat. Like, plays video games, smokes weed all day, and his dad... Does he sound like anyone we know? Not me, no. And so, like, if you, as one of the other characters, calls him to hang out, and you hang out, like...
you start to get little bits, like I just did it once, and you start to kind of see, if I hang out with him more, like, you'll start to see him kind of, like, talk about, like, why he hates his life, and, like, things he, like, he's never had a job, like, that's not really his fault, like, he doesn't have skills, he was never taught by anyone, because his dad was just a criminal, who made a bunch of money, and then never had any life skills or anything, and so, like, this kid, like, You start at the face value as just this deadbeat, but you actually get these characters. So you can take your time to do that. Or you can just play the Grand Theft Auto game that everyone thinks of and just go murder people and hold up stores and stuff. I mean, you can get you fixed doing that in real life. Play your video games for the content. And so, honestly, I was getting really surprised by the story it's already telling. I'm only, I think, 20% into the main story. And I'm already genuinely really interested in what they're going to do with this. So you do a thing, you do a heist, and Michael, you're playing as him. You play as three people. You can alternate between them at any rate. I think that's actually what they're going to make Gotham Knights like. Michael, Jason, and Friddy.
Michael Franklin and not Lester. It starts with a T. Trevor. Trevor. Were you guessing or did you actually know? You'll need to find out. Oh god, have you played Grand Theft Auto? Yes, it's Trevor. I'm familiar with the character of Trevor's existence within the game. Okay, because he's the very like... Yeah, he's the wild and crazy guy. Yeah, he has little side missions called Rampages where your screen just goes red and you just murder a bunch of people. Nice! Again, it is Grand Theft Auto. It's just a typical Wednesday for me though. And so like...
Trevor and Michael used to work together prior to the thing that made Michael go into witness protection program. You don't, I don't know exactly what, if like it's, it could be quickly assumed because the thing that made him like that they work together, the last mission they did was the prologue. Like you did that. And then Michael got shot and told Trevor to run and Trevor ran. And so I think like you can kind of piece it together like what it is, but I think they have to still explore that. But wow, I'm getting very hoarse. I don't know if we're gonna be able to talk about Daredevil.
We can talk about it next time once I finish season one. Okay, it might be more appropriate anyway. Yeah. Wow. This is gnarly. This is what it sounded like when I was in the middle of COVID. This is what my voice sounded like. Nice. I was getting really creepy. I was like, hello. So, I want to read something real quick. It's a little bit of a long read, but I need you to bear with me. Nice. So, when I went to do a little hangout with Michael's son, who is the...
And so when you do hangouts, you can do a number of things. You can go to a strip club, you can go to a bar, you can go to a movie, you can go play pool or something like that. And I chose to go to a movie. I was like, let's see what this is like. They had little fun little movie clips in Red Dead because it was the late 1800s, so all they really had was the quick little things. I was like, let's see what goofy shit movie they have.
Capilovaro is the short film that I watched in Grand Theft Auto. The two intervening women might also be references to Elizabeth and Alma in Bergman's persona. The use of horses as recurring symbolism is likely a nod to Drakovsky's Andrei Rublev. While the film is mostly satirical towards modernist cinema, Capilavoro also presents some philosophical and psychological themes, mostly surrounding the concept of anima and animus in Carl Jung's analytical psychology. In his work, Jung defines the anima as the unconscious feminine inner personality of a man, much like the mysterious woman that Antonio listens to during his dreams. This is further explore...
This is further reinforced by her occasional embodiment in the form of a mime, suggesting that she is merely an imitation of Antonio's subconscious. Jung states that the contact with the anima is a masterpiece, hence the name of the film. The ladder Antonio is frequently seen climbing can be interpreted as a reference to Jacob's ladder, perhaps representing Antonio's psychological ascent to his anima. The women's first line in the dialogue, Freud has a lot to answer for, directly references Freudian psychoanalysis and its divergence from the aforementioned Jungian psychology. That's a short film.
In Grand Theft Auto. Like, like I walked in and I was like, let's see what this is about. It's like this black and white, like really like cutting between two weird things and people are saying shit. And I'm like, like I started like paying attention. I'm like, I.
i am not following but i can tell that this is like this can't not be insanely provocative and like the video like is literally just like grand theft auto 4 clips like it's actually i think they said uh the clips are from like older gta games and red dead revolver like the original red dead game so they're like really bad animation but like there's this like french over dialogue going on and i was like this has to be like really provocative this has to be some like one of the creators was like i have this really absurd and like artsy short film one of the producers went to film school and was really bad and never like got to actually make anything on his own but he's something attached to the video game industry and so she's like i'm putting my art out there it's uh it's the choice between a virtual strip club and a virtual movie theater but my goodness this is my art and i'm going to put it out there it was i I was flabbergasted by what I was watching. I was genuinely expecting some, like, Saints Row, like, level, like, superhero movie that's just, like, absolutely, like, the boys, but, like, less good, like, somehow. I know, that's what I was expecting. I was expecting some stupid thing that, like, wasn't actually going to be good, and then I just get this, like, anima, animus, Jungian psychology commentary using modernist art styles, and I'm like, ah! Referencing Fellini and Bergman? Yeah! What is this, a Justice Loses episode?
Oh, my God. That's not even true. I've only seen one Bergman movie. I don't think I've seen any of them. I've heard of them. Honestly, I'm a little scared. Yeah, I watched the Stephen Seale when I was in high school. It was kind of strange. Yeah.
It's important to watch it because there's a reference in Bill and Ted's, whatever the sequel's called. Bogus? Bogus Journey. That's right. Because one of the main recurring elements of the Seventh Seal is this knight is playing chess with death. It's basically for his soul. And so in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey they play Battleship with death. Nice. And Twister. Nice. So yeah, that's GTA V so far. I'm doing the same thing. It's a lot harder to do with this game where you kind of have to cut through the crass.
to see the genuinely well-crafted game. Like, I mean, the mechanics of everything are obvious to see that, like, this is well-crafted and stuff, and it's a lot of fun, and the missions and things are, like, as fun as Red Dead, but, like, it's... If you go into it expecting what you think of when you think of GTA, that's what you're gonna get out of it. But, like, there is so much more to that game than meets the eye. I don't know if that stands. The reason I said, like, I don't know if that stands for previous games.
Because GTA 4 came out in the early 2000s or something like that. I don't know GTA very much. Honestly, I only got this game because I've heard nothing but good things about it. Good things about GTA. That's what it stands for. Good things about. Good things about 5. It's a prime number. You can hold it up on one hand. Unless you've lost a finger to frostbite. In which case, you can't quite get there. This is a strange bit. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
I'm bad at it, but that's fine. I will just keep dying and flying a helicopter is an absolute nightmare. I think in real life history too. Yeah. Queue me up again. Flying a helicopter is a nightmare in that game.
No, I did it wrong. Flying a helicopter is an absolute nightmare. Oh, flying a helicopter is an absolute nightmare. Yeah, here it is in the game too. Alright, we got there. I just leave each and every bit of that in. I hope you can hear the absolute disinterest in saying this bit through in my voice. But I did it for you, bud. I appreciate it. I feel loved. I will say, this is not really a media watch, but what I've been up to, Chives, is I now have an appreciation for Tennessee Whiskey.
So we went to this last weekend. I won a bachelor party with my friend Carter. I went to a distillery and I prior to that had been an Irish whiskey elitist. Because, you know, even though I try not to be elitist about a lot of things, I still am an elitist about some things. I was like, Irish whiskey is like the best. I liked it the most, and I was like, it's the smoothest. Generally, everyone likes it. I went to a distillery, got a little history lesson on it, and it's like a small distillery that was really big right before the Prohibition. Long story short, it was really good. I'm doing a little rap over here. Let me down a beat.
to a distillery. I have no sense of rhythm. I grew up on Chopin. I'm just nothing but rubato. Fair enough. So basically, this distillery, long story short, some of the big things they did is they were one of the first to blend and bottle in glass bottles because I found out that it was one, you know where the word blind drunk or the phrase blind drunk comes from?
Uh, no. So there's a byproduct of the stilling process that creates the same smell, but is poisonous and will blind you and probably kill you. And so people would trick you by having a bottle of that and sell it to you as whiskey and drink it and go blind drunk and then probably die. Um, and so that's why this company and a few others chose glass bottles so that you can actually see what you're doing because it wasn't the same color. Um, and they also started blending because they realized that like if someone really liked a whiskey, it was really hard to do it again because you had different woods for the barrel and you had like different like mixers and stuff like that. And so, but if you take.
20 barrels and mix them all together. That's a bunch of whiskey that's the exact same. And so they started blending and stuff. And then when the guy died, the guy who owned it died, he passed it to his wife. This was before prohibition. So it was a wild thing to happen that a wife became a woman. She had connections in the distillery. Yeah. She had connections in Congress, in National Congress and and also like Tennessee Congress and knew that Tennessee was going to pass prohibition 10 years before the country did. And so what she did, she had everything stop production.
bottle it all up, ship it up to Kentucky. Sell it all off over the course of the next year and then be done. She was brilliant with this. And then that distillery just closed, was done, even after Prohibition opened, until literally like 10 years ago. Two great-great-grandsons of that family just came and visited, saw their name on something, and history had been forgotten about this distillery. And did the classic in Stranger Things, you have the microfilm of newspapers in libraries, and they went through and found out that
They didn't care about recipe secrecy way back when. And there was this one guy who would just come to the distillery every once in a while, learn about the recipe, and then just publish it in the newspaper. And so they had the original recipe in the newspaper, found out it was theirs, and then reopened, and they started redistributing in 2018. It's phenomenal. So it's like a really cool story behind this thing. And then also they showed us how to actually chew your whiskey, which is literally you take your first drink, swish it in your mouth for like five seconds, and swallow it. And then...
Whiskey's wildly different after that. And so, like, I spent $100 at that place getting a bottle of their whiskey and, like, cups and stuff like that. So, like, I have a brand new appreciation for Tennessee whiskey. Specifically them, not Jack Daniels. I don't like the mass produce and shit. Let me down a beat, because I think I've got a sick rep for this coming here.
Went to ill the distillery. Learned me some history about the mystery, no recipe, secrecy of the whiskey. Honestly, it's not the worst. Like, you kind of had that. That was not bad. Your whole anecdote, I was just picking out words that ended in E. Trying to string them together in some order that was not completely nonsensical. So, yeah, if you have any interest in drinking Irish, or not Irish, Tennessee whiskey, Nelson's Greenbrier. Nelson's Distillery at Greenbrier. Hey, Nelson's Greenbrier, that little rap I just did, if you give me $10,000, you can use that for marketing purposes.
and like the two guys that own it are literally like 30 right now like those are the sons like they're they came back at like 2009 or something like they're like one of them has a history degree and one of them has a psychology degree like the two most useless degrees arguably no offense to our friends we have friends that have each of those um they came back and they're like hey we'll start the distillery it was awesome so did that got my degrees in history psychology but i started a distillery broke the secrecy at the library with the micro Fish. That's a thing, right? Microfish? Microfish. Like, not fish. Fish. M-I-C-R-O-F-I-C-H-E. Oh, I don't know. It's a thing. I don't care that much. So yeah, that's a thing. I also have been watching Daredevil because I saw a clip of Daredevil in She-Hulk kicking somebody. Like, just doing his, like, kick. And it was like a good kick. It was a kick. And I was like, cool, I want to watch that. And so I went to watch literally only the episode of She-Hulk that he's in, just to see what he's like.
I need to go back and watch it again to make sure I'm not claiming this unfairly. He seemed more superhuman. than he was in daredevil i am realizing in daredevil he is a little superhuman so i may need to go back and like see this but i'm talking like he was like jumping higher than a human should like jumping not like parkouring like better than a human should literally like leaping into the air yeah like the leaper kind of jumping um he's beautiful and he's also like really quirky and goofy like he makes a lot of jokes and like they have sex and then he does like the um uh walk of shame where he's like in bare feet holding his boots like says good morning to a lady walking her dog like it's not the same daredevil as the netflix's daredevil and so to cleanse my palate i started watching daredevil i was like i need to watch that right now and so i am halfway through it and i texted you a couple things one forgot i knew it was one of those things like this happens to me a lot where like i remember that it's good i know that it's good but i don't remember how good that freaking show is and then for some disrespectful bitch-ass reason of me i forgot rosario dawson was in this and she is
amazing in this show. Oh, she's phenomenal. Holy shit. That fight in the taxi bay when the... Yeah. She starts cackling. Yeah. Oh, Jill's just thinking about it, mate. God, like, the scene... I can't even say any given scene. Like, every single scene that she's in is just so good. Yeah. I... Oh, God. It's not like the scene she's not in and that good, but she elevates it beyond... I think I came up with an analogy for the way this show feels, this season feels, because it, like...
you start off and you know nothing. There's like, except that he's blind. And then you start learning a little bit like, ah, there's things going on. Ah, there's like something going on with this thing. And then, ah, like you find out like the corruption and like you like what I pictured going through this, like kind of like wiping the information from my brain to watch them show again. Um, you know, those foam pits, they're like little foam cubes about like eight inches, like where you like jump into it and like trampoline things. You ever been in one of those? Well, have you never been in a foam pit? It's like a pit with like filled with little like cute foam cubes, like a bull pit.
I mean, it's like the intent is that like you jump into it. Like you do like trampolines. Anyone who's been in one knows how ungodly awful they are to get out of because they're foam. So like they squish in. You can't really get grip on anything. It's like being in one of those like under and like trying to get out. But like you don't know where the surface is. And so like it's every step of the way that like.
matt takes to try to uncover something he finds there's more and he's working against like he thinks he knows what he's working against and they kind of like they have the enemy like the these antagonists laugh in his face about it multiple times where they're like uh someone says something about like the japanese and he's like the japanese are involved and the guy's like you don't know anything and like it's that it's like he's trying to figure out what's going on but like there is so much above him that he doesn't know is there the stuff he's trying to deal with right now is hard enough to get through on its own but he just every step he takes there is so much more that just piles on him and it like it feels like that watching the show you're like every step of the way you're like there is so much to this and I love the moment where he decides to like, cause for the first half of the show, it's him just trying to be daredevil. Like he's like, I'm going to take this on with my fists. It's the moment when foggy and, uh, and Karen are telling him about this stuff and he knows that he knows the other side of it. And he goes, this is the time that I need to take this on with two different paths. And so he's like, and so that's when you get the actual proper, like what makes daredevil appealing is doing it both the legal and the vigilante way. He is both law and order and executioner. Um, but it's just, Oh God, it's such a good show. I'm,
I know season two is, is good. It's not nearly on the level, but it's not a significant step. Yeah. But honestly, like, Because we've talked about that. You prefer season one over season three. I prefer season three over season one. But really, the difference for both of us is so minuscule. It's pretty minuscule. Like, I am just so excited to get to season three. I'm, like, every single, like, every, like, 30 minutes or so, I just remember the, you know exactly what you're talking about. I know what you're about to talk about. Like, him on the bed, and then the sit-up, and it's upside down. And it's just, like, that killed me when it happened the first time. And I had to go back and watch it multiple times. And I'm just, like, I cannot wait to see Dex again. It's just, it's so much fun between the two of them.
Got all dicks. Dicks. But yeah, I'll talk about it more. I'll probably be all the way through the whole show because I've been, I'm on episode nine in two days. So I'm trying to get on the level of the evil Wilson Fisk. Davis Bevel. Sure. But also in She-Hulk, they played the theme a little bit. I don't know. Because like he's got this theme that plays when he's doing things in it. That's kind of like.
Winter Soldier-y. It's, like, kind of that technical, like, intimidating. And I'm like, I'm down with that. Yeah, alright. Being the new theme. Yeah. But, like, she was like, what are you? Like, the, like, horn, you got horns or whatever? Are you a horn guy? And he does, like, like, it does this kind of, like, pause with his original music playing. And he's like, I'm Daredevil. Get on my level. Davis Bevel. I was just like, that's a, fine. Like, I feel like Daredevil doesn't really care about being Daredevil. Like, he never says I'm Daredevil. Yeah, he's not the only Batman kind of guy. Yeah, like, I, yeah. I don't like.
the way that he was in She-Hulk, and I really hope that that's not what they're going to do with Born Again, because Born Again is a reboot of the universe. It's not a continuation of that universe. Which is probably appropriate, because I mean... They don't really have much more to do. They used his two main villains already. Yeah, they can do some other stuff, but... We'll see. I just really hope they're not going to make him goofy. It's okay. We have three good seasons of him. That's true. We can just stick with that. They're not ruining somebody. No. I can always go back and watch season one again. Yep. Doing it right now. Good shit. Shall we? We shall. Thanks, Stephen, for listening. Thanks, Stephen, for putting up with my obnoxious 16. Yeah, honestly!
Props to you. You didn't slip up once. I was like waiting. Unless I didn't notice one. I was waiting to pound on it. You did a couple times kind of inch over to Sorcerer's Stone Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah, that's kind of my go-to British accent. The first time I can even remember doing a British accent in my life was doing impressions of Daniel Radcliffe and Sorcerer's Stone when I was like six. Yep. I'm Harry. You were like a little bit there and you were a little bit Phineas. What's the other kid who like hates him for like a little bit in Goblet of Fire?
God. No, Seamus? Seamus. Seamus Finnegan. Seamus Finnegan. Yeah. There's something he said, like, something that you said that, like, made me think of him in, like, Chamber of Secrets. Okay. I can leave with that. It's a work in progress, but there's certain words that treat me up. And, of course, the whole picture is not particularly effective. That's true. I feel good about it. I think it's a soul defect. Well, I'll see how I do next on. You've got to test yourself now and do it in your normal, like, tone with the accent. Okay. I have to do this weird little nasal voice. You've got to do the cord. Yeah? Yeah. Take standard.
Mostly I've improved it by watching H2O. It's a solid show. There's a bunch of goofy romps and shenanigans. No, it's entirely fine. You're shaking your head over there like you don't believe me, but it's pretty solid. Well, it's your problem then. Missing out on all that quality content. I think you should stop watching it. No, I can't even get that out with a straight face.
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news and review and then to compare and contrast the fantasy shows yeah that might be the plan alright well we'll look forward to how that comes but yeah look forward to our reactions there we'll probably say some suitably racist things about Rigs of Power and House of the Dragon as well it'll be a good time so look forward to the racism we better put this episode out of its misery so thanks for listening bye bye