Italy's hot, but France not so much as spreads near to zero

This week, Joann Spadigam, Giovanni Zanni, and Oriane Parmentier discuss the convergence of Italian and French yields. As the spread nears zero, they analyse underlying economics, political dynamics, consider debt sustainability in both countries and discuss the role that ratings agencies play in the market's evaluation.Remember to subscribe so you can listen to the latest episodes in this series as soon as they're available and get our views on the big themes and events moving markets and shaping the economy.This episode was recorded on 18 June 2025For any terms used please refer to this glossary https://www.natwest.com/corporates/insights/markets/glossary.htmlPlease view our full disclaimer here: https://www.natwest.com/corporates/disclaimer.html