"It’s the same thing,” Gillibrand admits “UAP,” “UAS” & “drone” used interchangeably in NDAA episode artwork

EPISODE · Dec 13, 2025 · 2 MIN

"It’s the same thing,” Gillibrand admits “UAP,” “UAS” & “drone” used interchangeably in NDAA

from Ask a Pol uaps · host Matt Laslo

Ask a Pol ~ interactive political journalism ~ what should we ask Congress next?Who?Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) — Member, Intelligence and Armed Services CommitteesAsk a Pol asks:“UAP” isn’t mentioned once in this year’s NDAA and there are only seven mentions of “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena” — has the 119th Congress just moved past the term “UAP” and started calling it “drones” and “UAS” instead?Key Gillibrand:“We know they’re drones. They’re not unidentified. So they’re unmanned aerial systems,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand exclusively tells Ask a Pol UAP.But in a classified briefing two years out from the Langley Air Force Base incursions —or “swarms“ that effectively shut the base down for 17 days — the Pentagon told Senate Intel Vice-chair Mark Warner and Sen. Tim Kaine they have no idea what they were.“That’s fair,” Gillibrand says. “That’s fair. We could have called them UAP or we could have called them UAS.”About Ask a Pol: We give listeners a front row seat to Congress. Transparency matters, so come inside the Capitol with us! Politicians disappoint. Ask a Pol keeps em honest. Find us on social media:SubstackXSpotifyAppleDon’t miss our other Ask a Pol sites!Ask a Pol politics.Ask a Pol crypto. Ask a Pol drugs. Ask a Pol ai. Ask a Pol uaps. Find Ask a Pol founder @MattLaslo on social media. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.askapoluaps.com/subscribe

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