I'm the king. Welcome to Ellis 2.0. I don't know if it's officially called that yet, but I'm just gonna keep saying it until it is, and then we'll look back and I don't, you know what? That's my new thing.
I don't care. Rumblebee wants to ruin the show. I'm gonna go ahead. Okay.
Rumblebee has something to say. It's gonna be quick. It's gonna be annoying. It's gonna make no sense, which is very similar to his father.
Rumblebee. Yeah. You're gonna come up and go to sleep? Are you gonna like toss and turn and wanna leave and wanna come in and wanna leave?
Cause it's a podcast and we need like you to be cool. Can you be cool? Can you be cool? It's right here.
Stay right there. Be cool. Be cool. Be cool.
I woke up. Coving cats this morning and after being on the road for a long period of time, I gotta tell you, it's actually pretty cool. But I am on the road enough now where I wake up in the middle of the night to pee, and I don't know what door I'm going to, or do I have to step over my bag? Which room, it's all a blur.
When I check into rooms now and they ask me what room number I give them the number of the room before the room that I stayed in. I don't know what city I'm in, what's happening. And I don't care. It's not a bad thing.
Sometimes there's certainly not a good thing. But I don't care. I'm not saying I don't care about living, or I don't know, nothing matters anymore. I'm not saying that, I'm just saying your opinions.
I don't care. I have recently been in Providence, Rhode Island, nice place. And then I left Rhode Island to go to Washington. But what I really did in Washington was go, when I got to Washington, then I was driven to somewhere else that is not Washington, that is like an hour away.
I don't know where I was, but it didn't matter because I didn't know where I was before that. So I don't really know what's happening. I don't know what I'm doing. I just know that I was doing a podcast.
And I think that's why I'm starting this episode with I don't care, because I think that this episode is going to trigger some stuff. And before you say anything to me, I just want you to know I don't care. Rubble being understands. That was perfect timing.
I don't know if you caught that, but he also said, I don't care either, Dad. I mean, why would you? But so I don't pay attention to stuff, you know? I'm very busy.
If someone asked me to do a podcast, and this one was like, I guess it was through my manager and my agent. And I was like, ooh, that's special. And I assume, I just said, yes, you know, if that many people are going to ask me to do something, I'm going to say yes, because apparently, I think what I had heard or the bit that I got from it was, it is a big show. And I was like, oh, well then I'd be crazy not to do a big show because a big show gets people to know where I am and maybe they'll buy a ticket to my comedy show, or who knows, maybe they'll even sign up to my show and listen to my Patreon at patreon.com slash LSM.
Or get tickets to my show by using my website, vjsonls.com, where you can see two dates and by tickets on that very website right now, as we speak. You can also buy merch. The Wolf Nives has new T-shirts and hoodies. So anyway, I am too busy focused on doing, I know I'm going, wait, I know I'm going to Providence right at Rhode Island, which also went very well because when I went on stage, I got a standing ovation before I told one joke.
And whatever stuff happens like that to me, I am like, it's a trap. Don't fall for it, because it makes no sense. I don't think I'm that cool. I've been shattered, ladies and gentlemen.
I've been to the top of the mountain and I've fallen off. So hard that I guess metaphorically, I could explain it as I have talked to a soccer ball as my only friend. Wilson, Rumba Bean, same thing. At one point, it was just me and the soccer ball.
Same, man, are you jerking me off right now? Because that's insane. All right, I love you too, but that's, I mean, you can make muffins, but you have to make muffins there. Let's chill out.
You're doing good. I guess on the scale of Rumba Bean lately, you're doing good. You're saying the same spot, you're not talking. Anyway, as I was saying, I start to realize, this is how far away I am from understanding where I'm going and what I'm doing.
Twitter, I don't care, again, I'm not going to say the real one. Somebody tweeted that I'm doing a show, and I assumed when I looked at it, that it was one of the comedy clubs tweeting that these people are going to be coming up soon, and I was one of them. And I thought I did recognize one guy as the guy that wears a beanie that's on the podcast with Mattan, who Mattan paid him $200 to take his beanie off and he's bald. And that the guy has been accused of being a Russian spy or paid by Russia to can vote Republican.
I don't know, that's what I assumed. And I was like, oh, that guy's a comedian, and I retweeted it because I thought that that guy was later on in the week in Denver or whatever, I didn't pay attention. I didn't realize that that was indeed Tim Pool's actual account and that Tim Pool was tweeting or Xing, whatever you want to say. Man, that's so stiff, he was tweeting.
That I was going to be on his show with those people. I don't read, I just retweet, I was in a hurry, you know? And then people start messaging me, and it's very rare that I get DM's on Twitter, but I got DM's from a guy where he was like, hey man, I hope you're not going on Tim Pool's podcast to be friendly. And I was like, why would I not be?
And he was like, because he is a racist and a homophobe. And I was like, that's crazy. Why would a racist homophobe want Jason Ellis on his show? Because everybody knows I'm black and I'm gay, you know?
That'd be a weird thing. And I was like, maybe he's having me on the show to be like, you know what we hate black gay guys? And I'd be like, hey man, we're cool. And then they could all be like, get out of here, F-bomb and bomb, you know?
I don't know what I thought. But again, I have this new attitude. And this attitude comes from the work that I've done on myself where old me would have been very triggered by being associated with this, without really knowing who he is, just by hearing this one person tell me that that's what he is. Also, being a bit of a libtard, being in, at one point, being in the gay community, having friends that are in porn and sex work, which is the same thing I just realized.
But being in that and being in the LGBTQ that were very vigilant on how you talk, how the words that you use and how they can offend people, and me trying to be a big supporter of all that and trying not to hurt anybody's feelings, and just being in that pocket and hearing the other side and going, wow, it's crazy how hateful half of America is. They're so racist and homophobic. And I think if they were given a chance, they would kill gay people and black people and Mexican people and foreigners, you know? That's what I was like, not really taking a big thing about it, but I did think that that was a possibility and that I was gonna stand up for them.
I'm the wrong black gay guy to mess with, you know? But I have been friendly with a lot of so-called Republicans of late. I have definitely changed my opinion on some stuff. There was a girl that I dated for a while who was a Republican, her father was a Republican.
I was hanging out in the country, I was riding horses, I was shooting more guns, I was hanging out with a lot of different people, hanging out with a lot of people at Black Rifle, I went to Texas and did some podcasts at Drinking Bros and all that stuff, and I followed them and I see their comments and I'm like, oh man, does he ever have an opinion where a liberal guy isn't a pile of shit? But I gotta tell you, I'm just less triggered, so when I'm less triggered, I take the information in a different way. I think when you get triggered, whatever was coming after the thing that triggered you, you no longer hear it. You're already gone and you're ready to return fire, you know?
It's like instinctively a human trait where somebody has offended you and now you're on the back foot and you're coming in hot to defend yourself or the person you think that they've hurt. But this is the great thing about losing everything. I don't have an ego, I don't have a fight. I don't really, I mean I do, but at one point I was like, I don't really have any friends to defend.
You know, everybody that I used to hang out with, with my ex-wife was no longer my friend. The last ones that I did hang out with, I mean this is, this is tough man, but you know, when I was, before I quit doing only fan stuff there was some stuff that I asked if some people could take it down when I was starting to feel weird about being involved in it. And they were like, well that's how I make my money. And I was like, but I'm asking you as a friend to not post it.
And they just did. And I was like, oh, they're not your friend. They're using you, you know? Like they're, they're like, I've got Jason Ellis on video and that's gonna make me a couple more bucks and it would be if it was just, you know, gay bill, which I'm sure is a great guy.
But more than one person just kept posting stuff. And I was like, I thought we were friends. What kind of a friend would do that? And that kind of made me realize that the people that act like they've got your back when it's a time of need, you really find out who your friends are.
I'm sure everybody's heard that before. But some of these other people that I had in the past built some resentment towards without, like I said before, without really analyzing it. Just like an initial thing that they did had made me resent them. And then whatever they said after that, I didn't hear it because I was in the pocket of fuck those guys, that's it with them.
Which is also the same with my liberal porn friends where it's like, you know, fuck you guys, you're not really my friend. It's not a bad, it's not like that. They got their own reasons, they're in their own desperate state. A lot of people I find, here comes the triggers.
A lot of people in the LGBTQ, we're talking about the polyamorous lifestyle, we're talking about trans, we're talking about people that have only fans account sex workers. It's not a healthy thing to be involved in. When you get involved in it, you probably weren't that healthy. You were not in the healthiest of mindset's relationships, circumstances.
You know, I get it. You know, when you're attractive and you can't find a job and someone says, maybe you take some photos of your feet and you can make some money and it's like, hey, lady, nice feet, show me a beep, and I'll give you, you know, five grand, next thing you know, you're off to the races and you're jumping up and down on a fucking, I'll have to put a tentacle. I get it. Money makes the world go around.
But certain people, republic, not everybody, this is the thing, watch out, all right? Not everybody, but, you know, even religious people, because I get it, a lot of religious people, I saw today, there's a minister of some sort, there was on grinder, like looking for young boys. So there's bad, there's good and bad on both sides. So I'm not saying one's the other, I'm just saying that's where things get convoluted.
If you do what it really is, you know, like being a libertarian and letting it all go and you know, everyone's out for their own thing and if you want to be free, be free and if you want to get all the abortions in the world, get all the abortions in the world. You know, if you're underage or something happens, it's really terrible and you get pregnant and you need an abortion, you should be allowed to get one. It's also, if you have vagina, nobody should be allowed to tell you what you could do with your vagina. You know, the rules and people getting over the top and saying, no, you need to live our lives, you know, like, that's, you know, in the name of the Lord.
And I'm like, I don't know about the Lord, I don't know about the name in the name of Jesus Christ. You know, I think Jesus Christ allow all these other people, they're all the same. They were praying to one thing, the higher power, whatever person's higher power is, it's just the same thing. There's not, I'm not saying one's fake and one's real, I'm saying they're all real, but they're just one.
That's just my opinion of it. And when you make rules, like, you need to live my way, the way of Jesus. And I'm like, dude, if you really follow the Bible, like, I don't read it, but I do know, like, you're not supposed to be pork, you're not supposed to work on a Sunday, like, but you can't be gay, but that one you're gonna stand up but you're gonna work on Sunday. Like, you're a hypocrite, because it's not real.
It's just a law that man made. Jesus didn't make that, or Allah didn't make that. This is all gonna make sense in a minute, I promise. I think being a good person, I think having a higher power, talking to something that you believe is all good.
Once again, don't get that twisted, I'm not saying it to some person, because I know there's bad in the world. But when you get up every day, and you think about doing the right thing for all of us, and you work hard at it, and you don't do things that can jeopardize that, it seems like more of a conservative lifestyle. And as a person that has done both, a lot more liberal, but these days, it's weird to say, but very conservative lately. I mean, I don't wanna sleep with a bunch of people.
I just don't, I don't wanna smoke weed. I don't wanna drink, I don't wanna do drugs. There was a time there where I was like, man, if only I could just do heroin, and wake up and be okay, you know? Because there's really no comparison.
Like the greatest feeling I can think of is like a bunch of MDMA, and a bunch of naked women. That's really what I want in life. But you gotta go to work, you gotta show up, you gotta do things, I gotta get myself in situations, I had kids, I got married, like you can't just do that anymore. But that to me was the greatest thing that I've ever had in my life, because I was running.
And when I did that, that was the fastest I've ever run, which means all the pain of my past was the furthest away from my brain and my soul, that it had been in my whole life. And that's why it felt so good. Facing all these problems and coming to terms with the bad that's happened in my life, and forgiving everybody for their mistakes, including myself, has released me from this inner haunting, like I've just haunted myself, like some kind of possessed demon. And I think that's where we get these analogies, where I've been possessed by the devil.
But I feel like when we take that figuratively, it's like, what are you talking about? There's no devil, I'm like, I don't think there is, I'm just saying there's a darkness that has been in me that I have carried for so long, that the only thing that made me feel right was doing these things that are so wrong for me. And I'm not saying they're wrong for everybody. I could be wrong and they could work great for you.
Maybe all the ecstasy in the world and like all the naked people all losing all over you, like a bowl of slime is your thing. But it's not for me. And the more I've done this work, the more I can, you know, like I'll be honest, like when I heard that I was going on this podcast and that this guy was this guy that thinks that trans people aren't, like trans women aren't women. And I'm like, here's another one that's gonna trigger you.
Trans women to me are trans women. I think you're biting off too much. Trans women's a woman. I think a trans woman's a trans woman.
I think a trans man is a trans man. You know, if you really have done, you know, it's not just some dress you put on. You know, if you're a guy with a beard and you've got to dress on, you know, it's a scary tell that to other people in the bathroom. Maybe don't go in there.
If you look like a lady and you are a lady of a lady's life, you're you're born a man. I don't see the problem with it. I don't think anyone sees the problem with it. It's just an asshole.
But I also think it goes both ways. It's a trans lady that looks a little bit more like a dude. But she films herself and says, how dare you call me Mr. and all this stuff.
And she went to Disneyland and filmed herself in the bathroom. She's a bitch, you know, she's making trans people look bad. We're getting back to this Timpool guy that I know nothing about. I start watching some videos because this guy's like, I'm a phone and blah, blah, blah.
And I watch a video where he said something about men of today have low tea, like testosterone and women don't know what a real man's like and paying half for dinner or some shit. And I was just like, oh man, this is crazy. This is going to be weird for me. And then it's like, you know, he has a million dollar skate pocket.
I'm like, wait, he skates? Now I'm super confused. Cause I'm like, wait, this guy's like a political guy, but he skates. I'm like, he's a bullish, he's a poser.
And then I watch video, he's fully skates. He's a full on skateboarder. He can do like Nolly flips and stuff. Like he can skate skate, like Robert.
He goes, don't skate park. I'm like, okay, maybe they want me on to talk about skateboarding, which also is a bit weird because I'm 53. I'm not very cool when it comes to skateboarding. I don't know how much you're going to get out of me.
And if we talk about politics, that's the other thing. Because of the shape I'm in mentally, if you talk about something that I might disagree about, first of all, do I really know what we're talking about, enough to disagree or be triggered? Cause I don't know, you know? I've seen videos of Donald Trump talk and I think that he's not from me.
You know, I think sometimes he says stuff where I go, wow, there's no way that's true. Like that was, he made that up, you know? I don't know if people edited it and he didn't really say that thing that was that stupid. But you know, then you got the other guy that was in charge where he, dude, he couldn't say words.
That's pretty crazy. You can't say words. I'm like, holy, she's dying right now. Like in charge of the country, that's crazy.
You know, like if he was the boss of, I don't know what something I work for, I'd be like, we gotta get him out of here. So I don't really know about that. I do believe that the big people in this country and the world that make all the money and make all the decisions don't care about us. That's what I believe.
I don't think they really care. I think they care about making more money. I think when you make that much money and everybody you hang out with makes that much money, you just think about making that much money. And if someone goes, hey man, do this and we'll get you some money.
Or if you don't do this, we'll take this money off you. You're just doing some other stuff that doesn't apply to me, you know? Like if you ain't gonna fight, if we ain't all gonna come together and fight and take it back, shut up. Cause it doesn't make any difference.
You know, what I got is like, I don't know, 10 years left. Maybe I got 50, I don't know. But I'm gonna love the people I know. I'm gonna love, I'm gonna give people a chance that I don't know.
Because when I hang out with this Tim guy, first of all, he's fucking half Asian. So there goes a little bit of your argument, you know? And then the first thing I said to him when I went to his skate park was like, hey man, people told me that you're a racist homophoke. Cause I'm not gonna piss around.
I mean, let's get to it. You know, like this is the thing people say, are you? And he was like, man, he'll show me videos where people like chopped up a thing that he said cause he was quoting somebody else and they made it like he said it, but he's not racist. And he's not homophobic.
He's not. He knows where I've been and what I've done. So does black rifle. They know where I've been and what I've done.
And they're okay with it. So how does that make them racist and homophobic? Why would they have any interest in being associated with me? I'm clearly not racist or homophobic.
And I'm starting to think that a lot of people talk a certain way and we take it as they're dead serious. They mean it. They're gonna take over the world and they're gonna eradicate anybody who isn't a straight white male. And if they are, which I do not believe, what are you gonna do about it?
If you're not gonna do anything about it, leave your life. Love your mother, love your dad, love your sister, love your girlfriend, love each other. Cause there's nothing you can do about it. You know, I wanna stand up for what you believe in, great.
But if you don't really know why you're arguing in the media and the way they make things up about people, I just don't care anymore. I'm not getting tired in it. You know, this guy is a racist homophobe. I hang out with him, I skate with him, he's a good guy.
He is not what they say he is. He, like he told me, like what he originally did and I guess he went to, where'd he go? He went to like Switzerland was the first thing that he did. Cause Trump said something about like crimes gone up 13% and it turned out that one person died a year and there was a fight with, there is some immigrants there, I forgot what kind.
And they killed 13 people. So yeah, the crime rate went up 13% because of this one incident. He went there to prove Trump wrong. So he's never, he's been, he was, I think he was a bit of a libtard at one point.
But he makes money out of whatever he does on a podcast. He's got a family. I just didn't see it. I didn't see it the way people presented to me.
And I'm like, you can say, you don't get it Ellis. And I'm like, well, I hung out with him. I saw how he operated. I hung out with all these friends.
I hung out with these fans. I did a podcast the next day with all these fans. You know, I did some of them like, you know, they're libtard this or whatever. And I'm like, yeah, you're all caught in this thing.
It doesn't really matter. You talk a certain way. It doesn't really matter. Some of you have some points, and some of them are blowing out of proportion, and you're not very smart.
And you're triggered by it and you say weird stuff. I don't care. So they don't really bother me anymore. They used to bother me.
All I know is this dude's main goal is he puts a bunch of money in skateboarding that he doesn't get back. I'm like, I'm down for that. So I was really in there with these people that, you know, in the past, one of them, I forgot his name, he's like the Tucker Carlson light. He even looks like him a little bit.
But he was at Skankfest. And I didn't like him because I thought he was like, you know, a racist guy. But I think most of the things he says, he's joking. I kind of think he's serious at all.
I forgot his name. I mean, doesn't say it's harmless to me. But it really changed my opinion yet again on what people say on social media, to what people are really like in real life. And I think we don't get out that much.
We only see these things on social media. And that's all our judgments are based on. But when you meet these people face to face, in my experience, the people that I have met face to face, it's not even, it's to me, the conservative people are the good people. I'm not saying liberalize are bad.
I'm just saying that most of these people that I've met that are these conservative types have your back, they're your friends. It's not a smoke show when it comes to stand and buy it. I'm not saying I'm a Republican, I guess. I have more conservative values these days.
But like I said at the start, voting for one or the other, I don't think they have our interest. I don't think they're thinking about us. I mean, clearly they're not, you know? It's insurance companies don't pay when you pay them and something goes wrong.
You know, like the ban-ask-runs where you need to double lung thing and they're like, nah, we don't cover that. Like, that's fucking not right, man. That ain't right. You know, those ex-insurance guys, if you pay a lot of money, then they'll cover it.
That's one company and you have to pay more, which means you have to make more money. And you can't make more money in this country because the big guy doesn't care about you. And one guy was in charge and now the other guys in charge and the same rules apply, we don't have any more money. So I'm not tied to either side, because they don't care about the little guy.
I just know that face to face, when I meet these people, face to face, and I hang out with them. You know, I've been hanging out with a lot of soldiers lately, guys in the military, ex-military, and they're just good people. They got mental issues because they've had bullets whizzing by and they've lost hundreds of their friends. You don't know what that's like.
I don't know what that's like. You know, I can only kind of imagine, as a person that has a lot of mental scars that it's given me a lot of issues, it's put me in a dark place. It's made me want to run and use drugs, alcohol, and sex and all these other things to not face reality. And it's made me hurt people I care about.
And I understand what it's like to be in the dark. And I know that it's not malicious, it's not on purpose. These people are fighting to stay alive in this world that has been so hard to them. So, you know, I hope I didn't offend anybody, by the way, I'm talking.
And I could be wrong. I'm just saying these are my personal experiences where I've hung out with these people and I've found that not only are they, not what everybody says they are on social media, they're usually like good people, you know? Is there a dark side that has some of them done some sketchy stuff? So have you, you know?
Like, stop thinking you're some holy person. How dare this person does that? You've done it. We've all done it.
We've all done something wrong. We're human. We do bad things to each other and ourselves. You get on this pedestal and stuff, packing down at everybody thinking that you've never done anything, you just haven't admitted it.
Some people get put on blast for it. And it's like, look how bad this guy is. You probably would have done the same thing if you were in the same predicament. It doesn't make him right.
It just doesn't make him that bad. And like I said at this point, I just don't care. If somebody says something about somebody. You know, Chris Cole, guy apparently hits women.
No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Went to call it one of the case, didn't do it. There's proof otherwise that this person, other person, made it up and some of you will never believe he's telling the truth for the rest of your life.
That's social media. You know, somebody who said on YouTube that I support beating women because I'm friends with Chris. Do I? Do I?
If that's if you think that, okay, I'm getting up in the morning, I'm working out, checking on my kids, hanging out with my girlfriend, not punching her. It's insane. What we all get tied into, this whole thing. I really highly recommend that you, look, you gotta be on the phone.
You see what's happening in the world. It's things to talk about when you get in a haircut or whatever. But hang out with people, put the phone down and spend time with people. Actual human interaction.
You know, because these days, this whole social media thing, we just, you know, we work and then we're not working. We're looking at the phone. You gotta lunch break, you look on the phone and you get fed bullshit from both sides. So you end up hating each other.
And you're wasting your life. You know, how long are you gonna be here? And you spent your whole day just doing about something you saw that might've, might've been true, might not have been true. It's got nothing to do with you.
You could be out there, living your life, telling your kids you love them, getting the sandwich, sniffing a flower, son on your face, doing some yoga, learning something that you're learning a skill that you haven't acquired yet. Getting really good at something. Getting respect for yourself, because you put in work for something, you've honed a craft and now you're doing it like nobody else can do it. All of us are capable of doing this.
But instead, you're sitting around, arguing about bullshit, getting angry, getting sad about stuff that doesn't mean anything. Also, what you don't realize is you're using it as another tool to run. It's another addiction. And as a person that has pretty much every addiction, now that I am standing on my own two feet with a clear mind and a clear conscience, life is pretty good without anything.
Another thing, what I'm saying right now, if it does bum you out and you don't like me and you don't wanna watch it, don't, I don't care. That's your life, you should stop watching it. If you don't like me, you should stop watching it. If you don't wanna go to a comedy show, you should not go to it.
I don't care. I care about the people that are in my life. I hope everybody has a good day. I hope everybody doesn't get hurt.
I don't wish any ill will on anybody. And the more I meet all these people from all different walks of life, the more I realize that we're all actually pretty cool. We've all got our things. We wanna take care of our families.
That's the people that I feel like when you're running and you just wanna take stuff and get stuff, because I've been that person. I don't care about what happens to you as much. And it's not my intention. It wasn't my intention.
It's just that I got pulled in to having things, because that's what society tells me. That's cool. If I get some stuff, you will like me. Or I'll be able to throw my weight around and get a better seat at the table.
And it's just not that important to be at the table. I don't care. Don't care if you don't like me. Don't care if I have no money.
I got no money. I don't care. I had a great day today. I taught somebody skateboarding.
After this show, I'm gonna teach somebody how to fight. It's my job. Does it make a lot of money? No.
I don't care. It's great. Everything's great. I might wake up tomorrow with brain cancer.
So why would I care if some lady did a gene commercial where she said her eyes met her pants? But some of you do. I don't care. I didn't think she's that hot.
She's just a bit of a basic bitch really. But I'm not saying she's hot. She's not my type, you know. But I don't care.
I don't, you know, when it's like, it's a not, I'm like, is it? It didn't seem like it to me. It seemed like she was like, she's got good genes. You know what genes are, right?
It's like, she even says it. It's like your parents passed down traits. I think when you take it the other way, it's like you want it to be taken the other way. You want to start drama.
And I don't even know if we started. I think somebody else started it. And now we're getting pulled into it. And now we're arguing about it.
When you could be out there living your life, you could be out there, you know, making a card, writing a love letter to your girlfriend or something. Texting your mom and telling her you love her, you know? Instead of dribbling on about some rich person's commercial, some rich company paid the rich lady to do. Who cares?
Also, those genes are too big. What is that? What are we doing? I like type pants on girls.
You got nice legs, you got a nice booty. Why are you doing baggy pants? But also, if that makes you happy, wear baggy pants at school. Okay.
So yeah, you know the Jeffrey Epstein thing. He did stuff, right? Do you know? I don't know.
Seems like he did. Also, seems like you know how they said he didn't kill himself. What if he didn't die? Did you see the body?
I didn't see the body. What about if they fake kill him? And now he's just in some other country living a life of luxury, like the government got him out because he had them on the list. It's just as believable.
I don't know. Rich people take care of other rich people. I don't know. You know, as a person that has been violated, it's not cool.
You know? It's damage. It's a real fight to get back to being happy for no reason. The trials and tribulations of getting back to like, I am okay with me has been really hard.
Like really hard. And I'm a guy. You know? I'm not saying it's a good thing or anything.
I'm just saying if you don't know, just live your life. Make sure it doesn't happen to your daughters. You know? But there's nothing we can tie in up in it.
They're not telling us who. I don't care. I don't believe any of you. Cause it's never been more clear to me that everyone's full of shit.
Everything on social media is, it's like I remember this, Vinnie Paul, the drummer of Pantera said, you can't believe what you hear and you can only believe half of what you see. And I think you might have said it differently. That's what he was saying. But that's a guy that's been in the limelight and has seen, you know, there's a guy that said Tony Hawk's a bad guy.
I've seen a video on YouTube where Tony's a bad guy. I saw the Tuss documentary where Tony's an evil man. And there's thousands of people that believed it. Still, Tony Hawk is a piece of shit.
That's not true. You know how I know? Cause I know him. I've seen him off mic, off camera going about his business.
That's a good guy. But somebody that watched that documentary thinks Tony Hawk is a piece of shit. And they will forever think that. Because they get tied into this stuff.
And the guy that made it up about him, it's not his fault. He had a rough life. He got involved in drugs and alcohol and kind of spun off and became slightly insane. And some other company made a documentary and let him tell the bullshit.
And some people that knew both sides just stood by and let it happen. I don't blame anybody who didn't say anything in anyone's defense. They're looking out for themselves. If I say something positive about somebody that everybody hates, it might ruin my career.
This is the great thing that God has given me, which is nothing. Having nothing means you can't take anything away from me. You can't ruin the show. The show doesn't make any money.
I don't care. I can say whatever I want, you can't fire me. So I'm just being honest. This is what I think.
I have met a lot of celebrities. I have met people that are lip tarts and people that are Republicans that everybody has told me that that person's a piece of shit. I met him turns out they're not that bad. I've met people where people go, that guy's the coolest person ever.
And when I met him, he was a prick. Doesn't really matter. You know? I never met anybody that someone was like, that guy's a piece of shit and then he tried to stab me.
That'd be different. I'd tell you. That guy's dangerous. I had met some people that wouldn't mind if I died.
And there's no documentary that comes out about that guy and how he's a piece of shit. I'm not gonna make it because I don't care. But I know people. I know a guy that paid a guy $500 to shoot my kneecaps out.
I met the guy that was supposed to do it. And we drank it a bar together. And he was like, after we drank, he was like, you know what dude? I gotta be honest, I was gonna shoot you in the kneecaps today.
Because I was paid to do it. But you're actually a pretty cool guy. So I'm not gonna. That happened.
Can you say who that was? He is the guy that made the documentary about Tony Hall being a piece of shit. But I'm not, it doesn't matter. Just saying this.
It's out there. People are out there doing stuff. And I don't blame the guy. I don't blame either one of them.
Because the things that happened in their life that got them to that point, you haven't been in their shoes and you don't know what it's like to feel that much pain. When you feel that much pain, you start to feel okay with putting it on other people. I know because I've been that angry. I've been in such a dark place that I didn't care what happened to me.
So you think I care about what happens to you? No. I just never had that much malicious intent on harm for other people. I've always sort of been a little bit of a hippie, if you will.
I think maybe my mum got that in me. Where it's like, I don't really feel that comfortable with like squashing spiders. Like sometimes if I can in a bee's near me, I'd be like, oh, a bee, instead of killing the bee. Or a fly, have I killed, yeah, I've killed everything.
I just, you know, I don't like trash. I don't like trashings. I don't like throwing trash out of the car. I'm like, what about the environment?
So I'm like, oh, the environment's not okay. Well, I just think that if you put it in the trash, it might make it easier for everybody to be less trashy. I don't know. I've always been a little bit kindhearted, you know?
But I've been dark where I've like, I don't care what happens, you know? I don't care what I, if I hurt somebody, I don't care. I don't even really know what I'm doing. And that's how I feel that particular person was at that particular moment where they didn't really know what they were doing anymore.
They were just very angry at stuff. And I don't blame them. I forgive him. I do.
I really sincerely do. I don't, I understand what it's like to be in a situation where life has twisted my thoughts into such a dark negative attitude that I wish harm on other people. You know, it's kind of like how this whole social media thing gets people. Where you get so riled up, you wish harm on your fellow man.
When I think you'd find, if you cut out the social media and you met the person, you'd find out, I'm not saying all the time, I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying, if you don't really know and you haven't hung out with the person, you don't really know either. So until you know, why not write a nice letter to somebody you care about? Why not do something nice for somebody you don't know?
You know? Why not, you know, pad a puppy or go for a walk, help a lady cross the street, you know, move out of a train seat and let a lady sit there, don't let people bully other people. You know, like you see some people doing mean stuff to a group of people, to an innocent person, you jump in and you stand up for them, you know? Like these days when you, you know, the video of the couple getting beat up in Cincinnati, like, you know, it's like, why didn't someone step in?
I'm like, you realize if you step in that they're gonna beat you up, right? Like, do you know what that's like? Do you know what it's like to have like five people kicking you in the face? I do, it's really scary.
And I don't want to do that. I don't want that to happen to me. But where I'm at in my life is if that's how I'm gonna go, okay, you know, I'm ready to do something good for my fellow man so that I can set an example. So hopefully that the world does not give up on itself and other people start to copy me because I believe that if we all stood up for each other, that the bad people would stop acting so ballsy.
I think the reason that things happen like this these days is because most of us are too scared to get hurt. And what I'm saying is like, he trained, you know? That's why I want to teach people how to fight. Give you confidence.
You shouldn't eat all this junk food all the time. I'm not saying don't have junk food sometimes. It's good. There's like a bunch of different flavors of ice cream.
I want to taste them all, but don't eat them all. The time's getting a bit slow. And then when someone's getting stomped out that didn't deserve it, you can't help them You know, it's a war. I'm not saying let's kill one kind of person.
I'm just saying you should be ready to defend yourself all the time. That's why I don't like crocs. You know, you're not ready for war. You're not ready to protect your mum.
It's like a hate your mum if you wear those. That's what I say. It's like we're very comfortable. Well, good.
I'm glad you're comfortable. But if you're mountain trouble, what are you going to do? Well, I'll put them in sport mode. You're a dickhead, which is also your prerogative.
Be a dickhead. I don't care. I just know that the more I stop, sit there and think about the people of the world and the things that I've heard about other people on the internet and meeting them face to face, even when they're bad people, understanding where the bad came from, settles my anger and pain and makes me a better person. And when I'm a better person, I feel better about myself and when I feel better about myself, my day is automatically better.
And I don't know how many days we've got. So if today's my last day, I would like to live this day with as little amount of heat in my heart as possible. And when I understand where pain comes from, and some people reach out to me like, how do I get sober? And I'm like, it's pretty simple.
It's just really hard. It's like, how do I get good at guitar? It's pretty simple, really. What you do is you play the guitar over and over and over and over every day, you don't stop thinking about it.
You never quit, no matter how much you peak and plateau or drop, you just keep going. That's how you do it. And there's little pointers everywhere. Like you can do this, if you hold your finger like this, if you learn to pick like this, if you try this, then you go to this song, there's a scale and it leads into this or a power chord.
It's the same thing. There's people sober people, they drop out of sobriety, they fall off and then they're on the internet saying, I'm sober again. I'm like, this time I'm going to do the steps. And I'm like, oh my God, this time you're going to do the steps?
Eat it. That was the whole... If you want to get sober, you go to me. People say, I'm sober, I don't do meetings.
I'm here's a better way. You know, you can take supplements. Great, great. Do that.
You could be right. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying, I know thousands of people, and if you Google it, there's millions of people that go to AA, NA, SA, whatever it is. You go to those meetings, you get a sponsor, somebody who you trust.
You can pick a different one if you don't like them. You can find a different one, you can fire one, you can keep one for the rest of your life until they die, whatever, till you die, whatever. And you do the steps religiously. You do them all the time.
You refresh yourself by looking at them. Every day, you know, how do I get jacked? I can't get bigger. You know, there's an excuse.
There's always an excuse. It's you've got to believe in yourself. And you've got to do the work and believe in yourself at the same time. It's not a Christmas miracle.
You don't just wake up tomorrow and you're jacked. You don't just wake up tomorrow and you're sober and you no longer feel the need to want to use anything. It's work. It's monotony.
You're working all the time. You wake up and you fight it. Every day, I wake up and I fight it. I wake up in the morning and I don't look at my phone and I make sure I read my little steps at the start of the day.
And then I pray to God. And then I go about my day. I start thinking about stuff. I think about some of the things that I'm grateful for.
You know, my family, my day, my kitty, you know, my girlfriend. This, you know, my job. I have a job. I could teach people a skate.
Today I taught somebody how to skate who was clearly pretty decent at skateboarding and they wouldn't drop into the deep end of the bowl. They're like, they've always been scared of that. All I said was you're way better than you think. I've never tried to help anybody that's already as good as you dropping in on the bowl in the deep end versus the shallow end is actually easier.
It's just in your mind. Don't think about it. Just do it. And he did it.
But the only reason to change anything is because I was there to tell him. So that's where the confidence comes, where you have to believe in yourself. You have to believe that you can make it. You know, you have to believe if you do the steps and you do all the work that it is going to work out for you.
I believe this is the thing that has happened to me recently. This is proof, man. Like when I started radio, I knew that I was going to be one of the bigger guys in radio and I was going to make a lot of money and be very successful. I didn't think it.
I knew it. I knew it was just time. As long as I stayed alive long enough, in time, I will have that goal achieved. I knew it.
And then I did it. And then I started hanging out with some people, not their fault. Like, at their own reasons, negative things started to rub off on me. I did the same in skateboarding where I was like, I don't want to sound too egotistical.
So sometimes I say I'm kind of shitty. And then my skateboarding talent started to decline. And then I got more into drugs and alcohol and more into talking shit on myself until I eradicated my abilities. And then I got into radio with this deep burn of I blew my skateboard career.
I'm going to make it this time and I'm going to do it right. And I'm going to believe it. I'm going to make it just like I did in skateboarding. And then I made it in radio.
And the same thing happened. I got big headed, thought I was hot. So I started talking shit on myself and other people. My insecurity started to take over and eat me from the inside out where I was like, I now feel like this is coming to an end.
And I made it come to an end. It ended. I made over a million dollars a year. And I was like, I was talking shit on myself.
People don't like me as much. This is kind of I see the end here. I was saying it out loud. You are in control.
We don't realize this because you've never done it. You've just heard about it. You're hearing me say, but you've never done it. This is the third time.
I mean, if you can't fight it all these other times, but this is real. I love comedy. I want to be good at it. I don't care if I make money.
I'm now OK with having no money. You know, like I got sponsored by a skateboard company two days ago. They're going to pay me. It's enough money to help me get out of debt.
I don't care. Because if I'm in or I'm out, it's not important. What's important that I love my job. I love my day.
I love my girlfriend. I love my kids. I love teaching people how to box. I love teaching people how to skate.
I wish the comedy store and the improv and the laugh factory would be like, hey, Jason, why don't you come down every night and do 15 minutes, 10, 25. I don't care. That would be great. That would be so perfect.
Why don't you put my name on the wall, comedy store? Maybe one day, maybe never. I don't care. I just want to do stand up.
I want to be good at it. I want to write a joke where I go. I wrote that joke and then I told it and it killed. And I've done that.
I did it three days ago. I'm doing it. I'm living it because I believe. I don't.
It's not even I believe. I know it's going to happen. The difference now is if you think I'm really funny and then I have a million followers on Instagram or TikTok one day and you pay me a million dollars, that I don't think I'm special and I'm never going to talk bad about myself anymore. That's this thing that I have now where I start to really know now that the financial thing is nothing.
It's going away. It's slowly but surely with time, if I stay alive long enough, it's just going to go away. I'm going to be comfortable. I'm going to be comfortable because I'm a good person with a kind heart.
I'm trying to help people and I'm using my mistakes. I'm saying them out loud to people so that you can learn from them so that you can get past it yourself, so that you don't make the same mistakes as me or maybe you have made a mistake or even worse but you can get out of it because here I am getting out of it yet again. The difference is this time there's never going to be an ego involved in it. There's going to be some kind of monster that I cannot control because I don't believe if you do cool stuff, it doesn't make you better than anybody else.
It just doesn't. And I'm not going to be you can't tempt me with the devil's plan anymore. I don't care about your boobs. They're great.
I appreciate that. Cool. That's a lot of money. I'm glad you have that.