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EPISODE · Mar 27, 2025 · 29 MIN

J.F.K., the C.I.A. and the Original ‘Deep State’

from Deborah Lebree's podcast · host Deborah Lebree

For the past three decades, the U.S. government has released documents related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr. with an overriding goal of dispelling conspiracy theories.Julian E. Barnes, who covers the U.S. intelligence agencies, explains why President Trump’s motivations behind releasing the latest batch are far more complicated.Guest: Julian E. Barnes, a reporter covering the U.S. intelligence agencies and international security matters for The New York Times.Background reading: Inside the 24-hour scramble among top national security officials over the Kennedy documents.The thousands of documents posted online this week disappointed assassination buffs. But historians are finding many newly revealed secrets.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Reuters Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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