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EPISODE · Feb 2, 2026 · 1H 12M

J.J. McGee, Author of Fight Forever: The Ballad Of Kevin and Sami

from The Work Of Wrestling · host Tim Kail

This week host Tim Kail is joined by renowned author J.J. McGee (MithGifs) to discuss their book Fight Forever: The Ballad of Kevin and Sami, a detailed history of two of pro-wrestling's greatest...ahem...the two greatest wrestlers of all time. Tim and J.J. discuss how this project came to be, J.J.'s writing practice, the most surprising piece of research they found, interviewing Kevin and Sami for the book, chronicling the history of these two modernday folk heroes, Kevin and Sami's legendary obsession with detail, their ability to weave macro and micro narratives into their matches, how the Montreal Screwjob is like their comic book characters' childhood trauma, and their small acts of kindness, revealing two genuinely good people. You can buy Fight Forever: The Ballad of Kevin and Sami on Amazon by clicking here. Follow J.J. McGee on Social Media @MithGifs. Music by Ben Holland. Thank you for listening! 

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