EPISODE · Oct 23, 2025 · 44 MIN
“Jack doesn’t want to go in the box”
from Deadline: White House · host Glenn Thrush, Marc Harris, John Heilemann, Alex Wagner, Ken Dilanian, Nicolle Wallace
October 23th, 2025, 4pm: Jack Smith sends a letter to Republicans in Congress telling them he is ready to testify in an open hearing – and news of another federal prosecutor that is uncomfortable with a prosecution against one of Trump’s political foes - this time, Senator Adam Schiff of California. And later in the hour, Nicolle discusses the demolition of the White House’s East Wing.For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MSNBC podcasts without ads, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nicolle Wallace covers the latest pushback Donald Trump is getting from Jack Smith as well as the prosecutor heading the investigation into Senator Adam Schiff – and the latest on Trump’s White House demolition job.
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