Jaguars Co-Owner Tony Khan, Cubs Patrick Wisdom And Suns In 4

Hey, part might take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcast and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Trust no one in a cues everyone.

Who's the bad guy? The official bar sports social deduction game from the brilliant mind of Nick Torini in what's quickly becoming the most popular new party game around players are secretly assigned unique rules with the good guys trying to expose the bad guys and the bad guys doing everything they can to stay hidden. Each game unfolds under alternating day and night phases with roles like the cool chick, the shy guy, the gambler, Elle Presidente, the mentalist, the planer, the funny guy and more. Every round is unpredictable, chaotic and ridiculously fun.

Who's the bad guy is great for parties, pre-games, family gatherings or groups who just love deception based games. Game night will never be the same. Shop now on walmart.com. On today's part of my take, we have co-owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and founder of AEW Wrestling.

It is Tony Khan. Awesome electric interview. We also have Cubs, Phenom, Patrick Wisdom. We have sons, recap with the Clippers.

Crazy ending. Hot C cool throne. FAQs. A pack show for you and we're brought to you by our new friends.

New advertiser alert. Still blue coffees. New can lattes are here crafted with 100% Colombian coffee. Each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors.

Espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. And whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stella Blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Stella Blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back.

I named the brand after my rescue dog Stella who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella Blue, you're not just feeling your day, you're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today, taste the difference and make a difference.

All new Stella Blue coffee cans lattes now available at Stelbluecoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10% off. All right. OK, let's go. It's part of my tent.

School sports. Welcome to part of my tent presented by JB Well, the world's strongest bond in the world where JB Well guys now, who does your JB Well, when you buy that strong bond? Today is Wednesday, June 23rd, sons in four, that ending rule. That was awesome.

Tonight is one of those nights where it's like, this is Hey, Big Cat, this is why we sports. This is why we sports. This is why we say up if you missed it. After midnight right now, it is after midnight.

Not not a brag, but if you missed it, it was an all-time ending because you had everything you had playoff P showing up with he actually made a nice layup a couple of plays before this, but showing up with the back-to-back free throw misses, you had 16 replays that made the last two minutes of the game go what like an hour, I think, and then you had one of the coolest plays I've ever seen for a game winner, Jay Crowder with an absolutely perfect pass. Devin Booker with a nice screen to DeAndre Aiden who basically caught it like in the rim and then dunked at home. That's a play that you shout out to all of us that have ever watched the end of a basketball game that are like, they should just throw it up to the tallest guy and have them dunk it. It is the play.

You say it all the time. You're like, wait, why don't they just do this play for the inbound? It's impossible to do. The sun's not only pulled it off.

They pulled it off for a game winner with 0.7 seconds left. DeAndre Aiden, he's a fucking beast, man. He's like, DeAndre Aiden showing up to the whole Trey Young Luca Donchich. That draft ruled discussion being like, I rule too.

I'm awesome on defense and off. DeAndre Aiden, I don't think has ever missed a shot in the NBA. He just dunks the ball all the time. I think if you look back on these playoffs, I don't know if it's just a hot streak that he's been on, but he's got to be shooting like 90% from the field.

It's insane. Wow. He's just yamin. He's just yamin on 40% of us.

70% is last 10 games. That's pretty good. Considering I was obviously like exaggerating the 90%, 70% is insane. He's just jamming on everybody.

Play-off PP came back big time from the charity stripe. And although it's sad to watch, it's always nice when our stereotypes with certain players end up being true. It makes you feel smart. I feel bad for playoff P in this circumstance, just because he is like the Clippers right now.

You know, Terrence Mann, obviously on the Friday night game. What? What? He missed two free throws.

You know what I'm saying? He's carrying the Clippers and he's fucking gassed. There's no, there's no what? Free throws end of the game.

I know, but I'm saying I'm on free throws for a reason. I'm trying to put into perspective that he has not been playoff P this entire playoffs. He was playoff P in that moment. He has not been playoff P this entire playoffs.

Like he has had good moments. He is with Kawhi going out, winning that Utah series. That was bad. That was bad.

All the replay reviews got to be a little bit much, but fortunately we had Mark Jackson and Jeff Ngun. He's just doing like freestyle open mic, like scat poetry, just letting all their thoughts hang out when Jeff Ngun. He was like, I understand that this is the correct call, but they shouldn't call it. It's like, no, that's exactly what the ball was out of bounds in Devin Booker.

Right. Change the rule. But if you're going to play by these rules, that's the win out of his hand last time. I think history was like you can't like if you look at the play, it was Pat Beverly who caused the ball to go out of bounds.

But then that that takes you back like you can you can go down a very slippery slope on that one. We're like, well, what actually caused things to happen? Now you're judging intensive basketball. Right.

No, you just you call it based on who it last touched while it was in bounds. It's pretty simple. I think Mark Jackson and Jeff Ngun. I think the reason why they hate replays is that they know that if they have to talk like that without the game action going on, it's just the meter for America hating them goes up and up.

Oh, no, I think they love it. I think they say, oh, no, Jeff Ngun hates it. Mark Jackson loves having. 30 seconds of dead air to kill for Mark Jackson.

He looks at that like we look at a giant big plate of Buffalo wins. He's like, let's go. Now is Mark Jackson's time to shine. Jeff America is going to hear from MJ on this one.

Jeff Van got me hates it. Probably not. He's openly hates it. Mark Jackson loves having that open mic going.

I have the stats. The final two minutes took 33 minutes to complete. That's and you know what? It does.

It is one of those like old man yells at cloud things to be like, man, all these replays, but it really is terrible. It really does ruin the flow of the game. We also had Demarcus Cousins pushing. Dem Booker was just no one talked about.

Yeah. So that should have been called that should have been like a flagrant fell, right? I have no idea. As far as I know, and this is when we get to the whole time space thing, but the buzz red sounded for the end of the game, but they were going back to review the end of the game to see if there was any time left on the clock.

So we were in a weird like limbo stage where the game was over, but it hadn't been restarted yet when the foul occurred. Right. So like then does that become a foul because the game technically wasn't over, even though it was over? I'm not sure.

I don't know the rules of that campaign should be shouted out because it was the campaign legacy game. He basically kept the Suns in this. What do you end up with? I think you had a 28.

29. 29. What a fucking beast. I always do it.

I always do it. And then also big shout out to Devin Booker. Anytime you got a blood game going on, you have to win a blood game. You can't let the nose be broken for nothing.

Plugged up nose. It was great how like there was a woman in the front row wearing a Steve Nash with a bloody nose T-shirt. Mm-hmm. It's just Suns and four.

Suns are rocking. Yeah. Suns are fucking rocking. That does feel like a backbreaker for the Clippers.

Unless Kawai comes back. I don't know how you recover from that. But I thought they've been down to all in every single series. So I might be this might be where the Clippers exactly want them.

Oh, hey, you know what they get? A series doesn't start until the home team loses the game. That's true. So here we go.

It might be this might be exactly what the Clippers needed to get, you know, feel like they're pushing. And I think there is game three, Thursday. They're playing these series fast now. We're whipping through it.

All right. So yeah, it is. Oh, I was going to what we were watching this game. I was thinking about how to start the show.

Obviously that happened. So DeAndre and started the show. But the alternate started the show was Detroit Pistons are back because they won the lottery. They get Kate Cunningham.

That's kind of cool for them. That's it. That's all I got. Been a good job.

Been a weird without a throw. Yeah. It was kind of strange. But once I saw Ben Wallace on there, I was like, OK, I think that might bring some good magic to him for it.

Just because Ben was, he's just awesome. He's just an awesome dude. Coach is strong. Big time.

Yeah. Campaign is getting on Scott Vampel's sports center right now. So at least he's getting shot in there. He's just he's just confident.

Like let him cook. Just let him fucking go for it. All right. So all this election day today, it is election day.

Appropriate for campaign for campaign. Yeah. Who won? Go off.

Not some guy, not Yang. The people. Yeah. People won democracy won today.

Big Cat and straight sets. Damn. I got asked to vote like four times going to the subway. I don't even know.

I just know I just got my shit loaded emails. I was going to vote. I was actually on my way out of the office to vote. And then Ron was on his way out of the office to vote too.

And I was like, who are you voting for? He told me. I was like, oh, that's the opposite of who I'm voting for. So we decided to just stay here and not vote.

Nice. Can't shut up. We can't shut up. It's perfect.

OK. So what else? Oh, the hockey. Canadians are just good.

I don't understand it. I think just, you know, Price just keeps standing on his head. It is crazy though because everyone, the foregone conclusion, we talked to our chicklets guys who were experts, is that the Knights would have killed them. Now the Canadians are up 3-2 going home to try to get to the Stanley Cup final, which would be also fitting for a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup in a year where they're camping.

Are they going to be zero fans? No, they're probably going to do the thing. Maybe they'll bring back some of the first responders that they had up in Toronto. They've had a few thousands.

Not those first responders. Those are turns out they were bad luck. But some of their own. How do you say Wagon in French?

I think it's just Wagon. Le Wagon. The Rouge rider Wagon. Yeah, they're amazing and Flurry Man.

This might be, we might have been watching the end of Flurry's career in real time over last week. Is that what it's like? What is it? The way to?

What's your last car? Let's go with Le Wagon. Le Wagon. Yeah, Flurry, I think that might be the end of the road form.

They tried to give him the start. And they thought that he could bounce back. But I guess he got lit up again. Yeah.

And for the Islanders, good news for you. You lost 8-0 on Monday night, but help us on the way. Hank, PFT, and I are going to be in the coffee on Wednesday night. So we were, I don't know what, we could see the greatest game of all time.

We could see people ripping their chairs out of their seats. You know, the seats out, carrying them out, crying. It's the whole gamut of emotions could happen. It's going to happen Wednesday night.

My understanding is that since it's the last game that could be played at the Coliseum, if they end up losing all the concessions that are there at the end of the game, they're free. All the hot dogs, the entire dessert cart, all the beers that they have left over, all the popcorn, you name it. I feel like we can just walk out with those. Yeah.

Take down all the banners. Listen, it would be, yeah, take the banners. But yeah, it'll be fun to be there. Hopefully they won't lose 8-0.

Yes, I agree with that. I hope you do not lose 8-0. It's almost impossible not to lose 8-0. Actually, I would disagree.

I would rather be 9-0. I would say for us, because people would probably leave early. Yeah, I was going to say, if it's 8-0, we're going to beat the traffic. True.

So yeah, 8-0, I'd be cool. Either way. Like a 4-1 loss with an empty net goal would suck. Where it's like, oh, maybe they can come back.

Yeah, that probably is the prediction that's exactly what's going to happen. All right, down the old barn. Yeah, down the old barn. All right, the other thing.

Carl Nasit made big news. First, active NFL player to come out of the closet. Mm-hm. Pretty big news.

Actually, huge news. Yeah, I know there's a lot of people like, this isn't news. Yeah, it is. No, it was massive news.

But also a shout out to Carl for how almost understated and chilly he was. His message was like, hey, what's up guys? It's me, Carl. Just real quick.

I want to say I'm gay. It's a big moment. I know not having just the fact that people will, and I thought we're at a point now where I didn't see a lot of negative stuff. I really did.

Not a lot of people were like, that's awesome. Cool. There were a few comments about it. Actually, it speaks to something that Sig Ziegler has been saying for a while.

He's the dude over at Out Sports. He's been saying this for years, which is like, the NFL's ready for it. The players, like a vast, vast majority, are going to be supportive when it does happen. It'll almost be a joyous occasion when it does happen.

Sure, you're going to have some fans that are probably going to cross a few lines that are not going to react to the best way. But for the most part, I mean, most of it was going to be a very good season. Yeah. But I think for the most part, it was overwhelmingly supportive, which was cool to see.

Yeah. And then even John Gruden. So that was the question. It's like, what's old John going to say about this?

And John was super supportive. I would imagine that. He said, I think what I learned a long time ago that what makes a man different makes him great. It's like, that's cool, John.

Also, he needs every defensive player he can have. Right. So that does play it. Yeah.

I also, I think maybe we should have recurring character on the show, just like extremely tolerant John Gruden. Yeah. Amen. Tell me how you do that stuff, Carl.

He explains me. I think that's awesome, man. I invented grinder, dude. Oh, I did, man.

You had that one right? Locked and loaded to go. I didn't want to tweet it out. Yeah, I know you definitely had that.

You definitely had that one. I didn't want to put that one on the internet, man. How do you guys decide who pays for dinner when you go? I just want to go ahead.

Keep going. No, I'm just rolling, man. This is this open mic tonight. That's awesome.

PFD is not rooted. I love it. No, you have one more. No, I don't.

But I do think that John Gruden is probably going to be like super over the top. Like any gay guy that John Gruden meets, he's going to be like, I got introduced to Carl, man. You love Carl. He was like, that was the other part of his video.

Like he not only came out and was like, hey, I'm not trying to make this a big deal. This is just who I am, which is great. And everyone's accepting of it. But also the Trevor Project, which I had no idea about.

And I was like, holy shit, I read about it. I saw the stat that he posted. If there's a suicidal LG, I'm going to fuck this up. Lgbtq.

Like teenager or kid, suicidal. If they have one accepting adult in their life, there's a 40% chance less likely that they will be suicidal commit suicide. So it's really just if you're an adult being accepting and finding a way to be that person that is like, show that to people. Be like, hey, I'm happy for Carl and acid.

This is awesome. There's no negative to this. This is a great, great thing. People should be really happy about it.

And that can have an impact on someone's life. Yeah, it was awesome. That's it. I was actually like when I saw the news come out and I saw the reaction to it, maybe feel like happy about the future of the world.

It's like, yeah, I think we've got our shit together as a country. Agreed. Agreed. All right.

So one more. They said that. OK, go ahead. Wait, they were bad.

Well, I like the dinner one. The one was good. I think it's the the gruden. I like the.

I think it's the voice. Thank you, Hank. It's good. Listen, we need to support each other.

I thought this. I thought this. All right, strong is bond now between me and Hank, second, the bed liner. OK, I was just going to say DK Maccalfe is still the straightest player in the NFL.

Wait, you want to do it in the gruden voice? No, it's not in the gruden. OK, got it. Got it.

You didn't want to treat any of these? I had no. No. No.

No, buddy. No, it was bad. I just the accent. No, no.

There was a time when Big Cat supported my John Gruden voice. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I don't know.

I guess maybe once we hired Joey and he's the impression guy. Oh, I suck at impressions. But I still do him, big guy. Oh, I know.

I'm the James Winston. I know the impressions. Give me a little Jerry Jones. It's pretty similar.

I know. I want to give it to Jerry React to the news. Yeah, give me Jerry's reaction. Give me that boy Michael Samoy.

Let's get back on the racking. I ain't going to let this some bitch take your head. That's good. I like the off the cuff.

That's good. Give me Gruden. He's getting it. He's finding it.

My wife. That's it. Oh my god. You think Sean McVay is jealous of John Gruden?

That John Gruden gets to be like Mr. Cool Coach now? Yeah, probably a little. He's like cold calling on his players asking if anything went to Elmick.

Yeah. Yeah. Who's he got on his team that he could be like, Hey, come on. See, I don't even say because then you run into.

Yeah. No, you put me in that spot right there. The speculation police. The bottom line is, you know what's great?

As straight guys. Yeah. I want to profit by saying that. We're able to joke about it.

Yeah. So no idea if that was appropriate or not. But I think the general feel is that like good for Carl and we're happy that we're able to very happy. Yes.

That's an awesome, awesome thing. Yup. Nothing but happiness. All right, okay, let's go to Haci Cool Throne.

It is brought to you by friends at Coors Seltzer. Summer's finally here in Coors Seltzer is going to make our summers even better with their brand new limited edition flavor Orange Cream Pop Reminiscent of the summertime ice cream, enjoyed on warm days, Coors Orange Cream Pop. Hard Seltzer is a nostalgic blend of orange and vanilla with a touch of sweetness. It tastes like orange cream soda.

It's the perfect refreshing treat for a hot summer day. It's 4.5 percent ABV in only 90 calories per 12 ounces and comes in a 12 pack while you're drinking the new orange cream pop flavor. save the rivers every 12 packs sold refreshes 500 gallons of river water the course cell sir scoreboard is tracking how many gallons of river water we are saving all year long we say more than 70,000 gallons of river water with a whole summer ahead of us the goal is to restore 1 million gallons of river water and tweet us your picture of course seltzer with the hashtag let hang fish for every pick we count as one case added to the scoreboard and Hank will go catch a fish in the East River get course light and course seltzer delivered straight to your door with drizzly or Instacart or go to course seltzer.com slash a to see where you can purchase Rocky Mountain refreshment now in a hard sell sir course we're in company Fort Worth Texas celebrate response we for every 12 packs sold through 1231 2021 course will purchase services from change the course to restore 500 gallons of fresh river water max 5 billion gallons through 2021 details at course seltzer.com okay Hank hot seat cool throne Henry my hot seat is being that guy oh you know that guy Pat was it you know that guy pal not that guy pal pal you know that guy pal pretty much you know it's a great clip but I think that's gonna be the clip of the summer everything you do with your friends yeah co-workers pretty much anything anything that goes out any Instagram posts you're gonna see comments about you're not that guy you're not that guy or you are that guy but hot seat just if you think you're that guy you're gonna be told over the next few months many times that you in fact are not yeah if you go into a situation like I think I'm that dude right now you're it turns out that like you can just get cut down to size via a gift is there any like backstory that we have to this or do we know I happen to afterwards well the backstory is pretty simple that once you get past the ages of 4550 and you're a father and maybe you have a little bit of a seek maybe you go to your assuming he's a father yeah I am he I look like he's a Costco or something you have a strength that no one wants to fuck with so that was such a classic like he was probably talking to kids somewhere in the late teens early 20s and he just essentially put him right in his you know place where he's like look you think that you're hot shit but you're not that guy and that would scare the fuck out of me if I were that 20 year old kid I would walk out of that place the Costco Sam's Club and go and cry in my car because there's something about that dad strength that is very intimidating it's just anybody over the age of 50 that says something super confidently to you you're inclined to just believe what they say their hands that guy's hands are wrenches that guy he looked like what's his name coach it was a coach Taylor from Friday Lights he looked like a brother he looked like yeah his alcoholic brother that had out in the Sun all day and just like telling you're not that guy like me watching it I believed I wasn't that guy either that's how that's how far he reached through the video clip in here doesn't case no one's seen it just never seen it okay you're not that guy pelt trust me you're not that guy okay yeah you absolutely but but that just that guy morning you're not going to be that guy after you hear this what that guy did is it's an incredible skill that only select few of guys have where you basically diffuse a fight what is that people you diffuse a fight and win a fight with a sentence you diffuse a fight and win a fight with just saying something to the person that wants to maybe partake in a fight what is that beep I think it's the course like cooler or is that Billy's ankle monitor oh yeah shit are you not supposed to be here okay all right you know that guy yeah good good hot seat hank thank you and then my cool throne is Matt Stafford yeah he is that guy he is that guy yeah I'm a guy this is this is that time of year when these quotes happen where immediately after I saw it I went look at the parcel sports look look at Matt Stafford's odd and was like this looks good but Shawn convey was talking Albert rear said bro this dude's a bad mother fucker I'm rooting for Matt Stafford wake you going with quotes are whatever people say about him as good as it can be he's even better than advertised it makes sense to him the guy's ability to see the game's ability to draw his experiences the field that he has it's pretty special and unique and man his feel for people his authentic way of connecting with his teammates as coaches this guy it's great being around him that quote MVP I saw it I saw the future dude I'm rooting for Matt Stafford because that is there's a few takes that we all have out there they're just lingering and Matt Stafford being a Hall Famer would be I could retire on that take it's definitely a case of Jared Goff doing this bunch about me out the window looking at those yeah you know he never used to talk dirty to me like that but guess what it's good for sure that dang Campbell's gassing up behind the scenes in his own way right why would you want to be with someone to love you you never would it's a waste of time waste of time it's actually I think both sides one that break up yeah sure agreed agreed that's it that's my hot seat in my cool thank you to solid choices appreciate you are that guy gas up the pros yeah my hot seat is I can't wait to be old dad where I'm just like I'm so beaten down by everything that I will beat you up with my work I think I feel like Billy I feel like Billy is what I think of when I think of listeners now it's I think of a group of him and his friends is being drunk be like you're not that guy no you're not that guy like all day long right which is funny because they actually are not none of them are that guy right so they're all correct when they say that to right right right right and you've seen some shit like I'm sure that dude's probably spent 15 years changing diapers he's got a thousand yards there he's like nothing nothing that happens not in the supermarket maybe I'm like maybe he's like in a candid situation yeah exactly he's Nick Cannon just he's Phil Rivers Keaton and everybody yeah but yeah you could be changing diapers for 15 years like maybe you got like three kids that suck at shitting and then like five others they're just alcohol it's just crap in the bed all the time anyways my hot seat is like seven different quarterbacks in the NFL just off the top I had I think Gardner Minshew Drew's Breeze and Locke Nick Foles Daniel Jones and Philip Rivers probably to him a few because Tom Brady went on LeBron's show the shop which he stole from Nick Saban at Alabama and they released a preview of it and in the preview Tom was talking about the courtship the quarterback courtship that happened last year and there was one team in particular where he said really you're gonna stick with that motherfucker over me so now everybody's trying to guess I mean it was the best what team well it could be the Bears I actually think he's talking about Mitch I think he was I would say maybe the Colts I don't think he would play for the Colts I felt like they could be Drew Locke too he was always about the Saints really close but I don't think he would say that about your breeze I think I think Tom Brady would say that about literally I think it's a non-personal thing actually no it was on LeBron James's show he was probably talking about Delante West I just it's you know when you have insecurities in life and the Chicago Bears are my insecurity like that you just think everyone's talking about you so you're like oh fuck that was definitely I think it's definitely like a Rorschach test whatever team you thought should have gone out to get Tom Brady last year like every there are a bunch of fans of different franchises and be like yeah he's talking about us yeah that's the effect Tom Brady has and it turns out he's probably right that they wouldn't be sticking with that motherfucker yeah I think it was Garoppolo because he wanted to retire actually you know that yeah you're right actually that is who it is no I really do think that's who it is that I forgot when I first saw the clip I was like 49 years and then I started getting in my fields and was like bears well Sabremetically it's also most likely to be Philip Rivers he's probably fucked the most mom I don't think he ever would have gone to the Colts that never felt like real yeah but I the 49ers and the bears both were linked to him but it's so spiteful to the 49ers yeah and just fucked over Jimmy again yeah I actually I think that that's why yeah I don't think that's why he won that he definitely won that you don't think Tom Brady's that spiteful no I mean like he was he wasn't out of town and then he won two intervals one seven suits seven Super Bowls and he still is like one hundred ninety ninth pick so no you're not you're the seven Super Bowl yeah he's a great motivator it's credit to him he's able to keep that if I won seven Super Bowls after being a six round draft pick or fifth round whatever it is I think I would start to be like you know what I think I'm pretty good I'm that dude yeah I have that guy and then my cool throne is the notion of amateurism dying in America because the Supreme Court put like an Alabama Notre Dame style beatdown on the NCAA 9 to nothing it was a hockey scores an islanders lightning score ouch and they essentially said guess what you cannot define amateurism as being an entity that does not pay people so they were using the term amateurism to describe amateurism and using that to explain why you can't provide benefits to players and the biggest thing coming out of this first of all it's like the first domino default the NCAA is done and you're always not in a great position when the federal government is like this organization is really fucking corrupt and when you can get like nine Supreme Court judges to agree on anything you're probably fucked so it's like the first domino to fall and one of the things that they ruled is that schools are allowed to provide as many education related expenses as they want to players that includes free laptops and post-education paid internships and Kevin Newton would still be a florida the free laptop thing is interesting because you could in theory provide an athlete with like an entire dorm room filled with servers for them to mind cryptocurrency in that dorm room like LSU could be like hey we're gonna name we're gonna build a new dorm called the archmending dormitory it just gonna be filled with computers and so you can just generate money for yourself while you're but you'd have to be like a computer programmer if yeah the school could probably find a couple computer programmers oh they were able to get the laptops no no no you would give them to archman got it and then they while they were at LSU or Ole Miss or wherever they were going to school they just have like a full-time income generating server farm mining bitcoins got it so that's gonna be new like cash app or Venmo payments I think if I can see the future got it crypto mines at at campuses for the college there's nothing right now according to what the law says you can provide why not students with as many computers as you want to not and it's but the bottom line is the NCAA's fucked where it's on it's like last legs yeah if anything I mean I hope they include one of their decisions that just bring back the crystal ball from the BCS I do think there's gonna be a group of people that like what do they do now that they don't have the free points of just being like the NCAA sucks because that's a dunk online that anyone can do and it's gonna be like yeah good point even though we all I think there's not besides maybe Doug Gottlieb and maybe Dickie V maybe Danny can I don't know other people yeah oh Dan Dawkins there's not a lot of people left out there who are like yeah these kids getting sweatpants and a trip to Italy for every four years that's payment yeah right so you lose something you do but at this point you've got Clarence Thomas and so to me we're agreeing on something so I mean that's pretty much the end of it yeah means that like 99.5 percent of America agrees that the NCAA's done yeah wait was that your cool thrower hussy that was was that a hot seat or was that cool thrown I think I was hot seat it was their cool thrown you said it was a notion of yeah amateurs being fucked over yeah all right my hot seat is Greg guard I think people probably saw it the Wisconsin Badger season was not a great one for college basketball they did beat Roy Williams in the tournament his last game ever not not a big deal but the story came out very weird story all the seniors the seven seniors taped Greg guard a private conversation basically saying he's a terrible coach they don't have his back very weird story I don't know how he recovers from it but I also did I kind of expected this because if you watch them they were good last or the covid year they were peaking and then this year they completely sucked and they never like took the next step forward so I that's gotta be a shitty feeling though to be a coach and a few months after your season flames out being like oh yeah and all your seniors taped an hour long conversation you had with them yeah it's tough so what do you do move for like no cell phones you treat your office like a skiff like no electronics let's lift your shirt up let's see if we're wearing a wire you gotta be constantly nervous yeah and so Greg guard was like I think he probably knows who taped it I think yeah yeah coach yeah probably have like a good idea who it was was it tries well Brad Davison's is doing another year yeah I don't know that that's gotta be awkward that's very awkward I don't think Davison would wear a wire no but he was in the room yeah yeah I mean it sucks so oh Devin Booker time traveling we're not gonna time travel my cool thrower on a skippail is still got it I don't know if you guys saw us I didn't watch the actual segment but a tweet that he had previewing his show he said wire LeBron and AD following Russell Westbrook's wife on Instagram now I'm just muted I love it I love it that is like just when you think he doesn't have it anymore he just throws 99 on the black I wish I'd seen that segment because I hope Shane's sharp response was well skip because you probably want to fuck her yeah unbelievable guy just can't he can't miss he just keeps keeps producing who do you think gave him that scoop do you think that skip a list like yeah is it right is this a bonkable situation for skip like was he going through her followers no was there like cruiser profile it's what you what you just brought up is a very interesting point because there's very clearly a person behind the scenes working for skip bailist that has skip bailist his brain and does all the things online ernasine I want to meet that person I feel like ernasine is involved in in like text on there's like a you know if I guess it's like a 24 year old kid who's probably bald and like let's just say fat because he can't be on camera he's got the brain he's got the speaking ability he doesn't have the looks and he just feeds skip bailist crap all day and it just ends up on TV like his little private investigator right I mean I want to meet that person if we're being honest anybody that's approximately that age in sports media should have a younger person do it we're almost actually do for that unfortunately we do have that person yeah he's doing great he's doing a great job he's doing a problem yeah big yeah we should hire somebody that's younger maybe around the age of like 22 23 is familiar with tipton Instagram and and is able to feed us these hot takes about athletes that we wouldn't be able to get to if there's anybody out there that fits that description please oh we actually did is he listening right now memes me means shout out memes if you've seen him we've treated him a bunch he's very very funny PMT memes on Twitter he is now part of the crew yep thanks for the crew he lived the dream he actually lived the dream people always like how can I get hired how can I find a job you know a bar stool it's basically working and showing that you have something and never like giving up on it and that's what he did he basically roasted all of us enough to the point where we like okay I think I like this game we have a guy named memes now which is fucking awesome and I like a lot thank you not saying I like them any more than anyone else but I like them a lot mmm-hmm Jake your hot seat cool throat before that I will say this is when you should take notes and like have comebacks for us at the end of the show we were talking about you right you got this yeah you have a good job I was not a friend's house this weekend and they had a microwave at skip a list level oh really I've seen it in person what did you I actually my parents are remodeling their kitchen and they're like we're gonna get a microwave down there and I was like a skip a list like we're there like what do you mean I didn't even bother to explain to him but I was like I don't know about that what's the purpose where did you ask him what they use apparently that's like that's the new thing I act like the trendy I actually just realized I'm having my place for a year now I don't have skip a lot it's like shin level yeah I'm like low low so it's not full skip a lot it's like knee level it's very like an only I mean that's that is a tall guy though to skip not yeah it's something that if you saw if you were if you have a few beers when you're like 22 years old and you walk into any room that has a drawer at crotch level like that things getting peed at some point there should be like an age limit like you have to be over the age of 26 before you're responsible enough to have really anything in your home that pulls out at your dicks level but I think that hey because right I think this is just how they do it and yeah because it is like it's annoying and it's like it's very annoying but it also clean design like if you just have a big microwave sitting on your countertop it doesn't look good so they just stash it away and build it into the where I break my back and also I'm pretty sure it's you can you like can you get like radiation through the microwave yeah so I was always told don't stand in front of a microwave well it's okay like it's literally his head level superpowers alright hot seat is a Bryson de Shambona and Rogers because Brady posted some plots today he looks ready him and Phil I mean we're obviously rooting for them yeah they are those guys a lot of people are saying that the second part that Brady hit didn't actually go in and it was edited I think I think it absolutely when I'm definitely what did you actually just ask us if we're rooting for no I didn't ask I'd be like we're rooting for them right now Aaron Rodgers and Bryson de Shambona this morning like team Phil and I'm probably low key being like huh I'm a bear so I'm just golf yeah he's pretty big it's all he's fucking driving real long way it's actually what you're going through right now is exactly what the US went in went through in like the late 80s so you're like you're supporting bin Laden because he's taken out right saying right at the time like whatever you just put my two biggest enemies together don't care who's playing it's yeah and then cool thrown is Robert Griffin the third so ESPN and Fox are in a bidding war for him as an analyst whoa so it looks like he found his future career how does that we not get in that but also how who this seems to be a big it seems like something that might have been leaked straight from the camp of Robert Griffin I was gonna say there's another anonymous quote out there that was it said he's the next coming of Tony Romo yeah and so we got to get in on that you know what it's probably his dad whatever happens probably our agency camp probably our junior yeah second or gritta Greta is probably all over this we just doesn't pass this doesn't pass the do I have a brain in my skull test yeah or just straight up yeah yeah yeah he's able to get people you like you to say there's a bit I mean if pro football talking and then your post or something no published anything yeah L'Orio come on this time of year exactly yeah right point yeah no I don't think that I don't think there's a bidding war going on for our G3 services as much as I would like and I was like this is that line like we just send that back to you you're here at your beer right yeah I actually thought that RG3 would be lucky I thought we was going for this whole summer he is desperately looking for a job to be an Olympic commentator so he's releasing all these videos of him like doing hurdles and stuff out on track just reminding people that he was an elite level sprinter and hurdler the Olympics are coming up I thought he would get lucky if Bleacher report was like hey can you zoom in once a week to talk to us about hurtling I thought that's but no you're right no he's got a bidding war I heard that the quote is Chris Collins worth is getting squeezed out oh just getting back out loud so the executives were quote blown away by his audition yeah I mean it was anything like this combine performance like the guy he shows up in practice for sure he's he put out a video of him running a 40 yard dash watch this video if you haven't seen it because he labeled it he put like his whole stats on there he was like I'm six foot two two hundred fifteen pounds 31 years old and I still run a 427 and if you just look at the video on Instagram the video is five seconds long it says five seconds on the video if it is in fact a 4.27 he is the longest strider in history the world because it looks like he's he's running under water but that's listen I don't want to trash RG3 I love RG3 he's always gonna have a big part of my heart but bidding war bidding was a strong term because you just came up on this article about oh yeah there it is I did not if I if that had brought up when I was with Florio I would have laughed in his face just like I'm laughing in your next week yeah I'll try to get her bring it up all right is that it yes that is it I totally forgot about the fantasy camp thing his whole life is a fantasy camp you save it for the end Billy save for the end you're how's he cool thrown in the recap well it's been one week you doing great though you are great you're that guy right now you're doing awesome oh baseball when talk baseball oh we'll do it after we'll do it after the interview we'll do my Greenberg's dumb rolls sweet and then FAQs before we get to our interview with Tony Khan talk to you quickly about our friends free fly by the way lit ass interview awesome interview free fly has the best clothes out there this is one of those sponsors actually bought the clothes before they actually became a sponsor free fly is the best free fly makes performance clothing made from buttery soft bamboo and it literally feels like I don't know the softest pill you've ever seen in your entire life I've tried it I tried it before they started advertising with us I love their their shirts their lightweight sweatshirts are awesome so whether you're outside hitting the gym or lounging around the house this stuff is the absolute best and on top of being super comfortable free flies bamboo clothing has UPF sun protection wicks away moisture and won't hold odor you get 20% off when you visit free fly apparel dot com slash take again that's free fly apparel dot com slash take 20% off free fly apparel dot com slash take okay here he is Tony Khan okay we now welcome on a very special guest he is co-owner the Jacksonville Jaguars full F.C. he is the founder and president and CEO of A.W.

wrestling it is Tony Khan shot of a cannon love it great to see you I actually had this question lined up when we got a text message saying that you were here at 10 and like hey Tony's early and then we were like all right we're ready at 1045 and then we got a text back being like well now he needs to 1050 I just want to give you credit that was an alpha move so that was a full-time I didn't do any of it I didn't do any of that that's like when you have people this is the problem with people this is why like I don't actually have an assistant and when you go on like a press tour like you have to Mandy's great and like I have great people but you know I normally do stuff one-on-one so I should have just DM you man that I was gonna I know I don't PFT for a while we're combine bros yeah we're happier here though we're happier here you got awesome a w shoes on we're gonna talk everything you want to start with a w I love to thanks thanks for having me on this is dope yes your office is sick yes it is really sick a lot of dude really you see my pile and shit this is sick your pile is great though with the weight bench is dope I don't know about that we think about that couch that couch is actually broken I think it's good man I think I'm comfortable okay as long as you're comfortable but like I'm honestly like I'm always interested in people coming to this room yeah like what their real impression is are they like I'm gonna pretend like I'm cool in this environment are they like I'm actually comfortable in this mess cuz I'm mean big cat we're like pigs we're com current masses like I'm home all right I like that the nice thing about this office is like I can keep my home clean I don't actually keep it clean myself but my office can be like my life like in college you know what I mean like this is this young this room is gross all the time yeah man if you sub some of the subs like Lenny Dykstra out for Sammy so this you know this could easily be my room in college he's our financial advisor so it's important to have just you know we know we know I know that you probably have done okay with your money but Lenny he's 600 to know when it's Stockpicks no one sorry he got one rumble he got one wrong and he hasn't been to jail in three years yes so if you're looking to put your money with somebody you could do worse than nails yeah it's true you could go with Pete Rose yeah all right so let's talk a w wrestling so I'm a huge wrestling fan I I guess the first question I have is what made you think that you could take on the big guys because it's been tried before and it hasn't worked out but like I love this I think the best thing for wrestling is competition and giving the audience more than one thing to watch is always great so what made you think like hey you know what we can do this like I want to do this is my plan and let's let's go tackle this oh okay have you ever like both of you have been in a situation where sometimes you're just like you're at a party you're with friends and you're like let's just try some shit right and that was what happened I was at a party with some friends in Beverly Hills and I saw my friend who was a president of TNT and TBS and it all just kind of clicked like it's probably something I thought about a million times but I never until you get in the moment and I went up to him and I said Kev are you looking at bidding on the WWE TV rights and he said yes yes I am and he said I'm not looking at bidding on both packages I'm looking at bidding on one of them and I said oh knowing that that's you know of course smack them and he said it's gonna go for probably over 150 and it ended up going for 205 million annually to Fox but they were in on the bidding at least initially in the initial wave and I said Kev I you know that's interesting but have you ever considered you know maybe we could do this and he was like what do you mean and I said well the company that you operate owned and operated 20 years ago today which was true the day I said it the number one wrestling company in the world and he said really and I said have you ever heard of WCW he had not but WCW if people don't know was formerly a competitor to the WWF they ended up getting sold by AOL Time Warner and they got shuttered and it's not a thing anymore but AEW exists in my opinion because of the failure of WCW because they vacated this great time slot this great relationship with TNT and TBS that we have and and that was a success of WCW was the outlet the penetration they have from TNT TBS and of course the fans and there are all these fans that wanted an alternative and so anyway that's how I like how you're saying this was like your buddies and you got to get a party and you're like hey let's go start a wrestling league and then sell it for me like if it's me and that's nerry I'm like let's go to 7-eleven and order one of every kind of tequito and then come back and like do a blind taste like my big plan I bet you I can throw a football 65 yards like no fucking way can you and that's that's basically what you were doing to just went full-time bigger snakes on starting a league party with you before man like 99% of the time you know it's just you know you don't think stuff like that but every once in a while like the sparks there and something cool yeah so what are you gonna do what what have you done and what did you learn from WCW because like wrestling fans hardcore wrestling fans know the WCW in the 90s that's really kind of how the attitude error came because it was Monday Night Wars and all that all that was going on and it was competition going at each other than elevated wrestling so you obviously aren't in it to become make WWE better and be like competition will make them better and then I'll just go away so what what were like the big lessons that you learned or things that you've implemented that are different than WCW? It's a great question so I believe that there were a lot of successes of WCW can learn from also and so I've learned from the pros and the cons and I think some of the things that went wrong for WCW in my opinion were the creative control they gave creative control to a lot of the wrestlers and some of the storylines are asinine and some of the ideas were great but like it was very disorganized show and then when they brought somebody else in from the WWF to be a writer named Vince Russo he made it 10 times worse and he took a problem and then it was like they had a massive hang nail and he just chopped off the arm and so that was a part of the problem and then you have another major issue for them in my opinion was the management that they were you know that most wrestling companies that have been really successful over time have had like one supreme commander at the top who's like owned it booked like done everything top to bottom run the place like run the management whether it was Vince McMahon for years you know organizing everything cowboy Bill Watts, Eddie Graham, Fritz Von Eric and countless others and so I think like that made sense as a business model and I told Kevin that's like a strong management WCW didn't have I can provide so in terms of being a more organized booker than anybody they had so yeah all right so when you can do steroids so that you can be part of the like because that really you know Vince McMahon doing steroids and showing up and like starting to get in the storylines like you know you're gonna have to right no that's not I mean no no that is definitely not something okay I disagree with your artistic vision on this one could you be like could you float out rumors like I'm gonna move this thing over to London that's amazing you know I I've never won a villain on my own show and I've never shown up on my two 50 and ripped and you just showed up and you were villain I don't even first of all without completely a very solid natural physique I think I've shown up on other wrestling shows and been a villain I'm happy to open what I call the forbidden door that is me and go to other wrestling shows and up here there and and kind of trash them and talk about how great a w is and I were the number one cool wrestling company that's sick to call yourself the forbidden door I want to call myself at some point well I trademarked it so you can't do it well what about that so you go the other way if you don't want to put on 250 pounds or whatever you could just like slim down a little bit put on a big pair of glasses I know that you're into you got like a sports analytics company how much can I sit down I'm scared no get like super emaciated and then you could just be the nerd that's ruining wrestling and you could bring analytics into the wrestling ring that's pretty good and try to like go over the top with these saber metrics and tell the fans that they're rooting for the wrong guys because they don't they don't actually compare that well when you look at the number that's why I like you so much because I there's one guy I think in like backyard wrestling he called himself like the progressive liberal but only wrestled in very conservative states and just wore like Bernie Sanders shirts and yelled at everybody in the crowd about how they're backwards like that's what you should be doing go to analytics and just make everybody hate you that way I think honestly I would watch that that's pretty good not a bad idea so you know what you got to get in it you got to get in the mix well that's pretty you know I like I said I've done stuff on other wrestling shows that kind of promote a w and crossover but that's kind of the line I don't want to cross because I feel like you kind of disappear up your own butt when you like start writing that way because you have to if so as a booker one thing I know and I've never had to book myself into the show other than like as a matchmaker like I'll make matches but I do 99% of it is off screen like they'll say Tony Khan just announced this huge title match for next week and you'll hear that every week so you're like shook night back in the 90s telling people like oh don't sign with bad boy records you don't want your producer dancing your video come out to death row that's you yeah with that yeah but like way way way less felonies and yes yes okay that's yeah but you're also might get to his weight if you do this never like I said you should wait so how how you this is the part that I guess appeal try to appeal to a guy like myself who I loved attitude error wrestling I still love the concept of wrestling I still will some watch probably one to two paper views a year but I'm not like hooked and I know that that obviously has something to do with you know age and everything else but it's also it doesn't feel like this there's stars there's new age stars that were like new age stars back in the 90s and it feels like a lot of places or a lot of wrestling now is trying to relive that era so how are you escaping from that era how are you finding the new guys that's such a great question and so first of all I'm going to and I'm going to talk extensively on I have question are you guys available September 15th and or September 22nd probably sounds like it's football so small no Wednesday there's no football what are you gonna watch some action? that's a little match it's also a winter-wire day on fantasy football but we can do that you can do that at the so okay we're doing AW at the Prudential Center on Wednesday September 15th and we're doing the first ever wrestling show at Arthur Ash Stadium here in New York City on September 22nd on Wednesday what if it rains well it's the day of the roof on the arthrast so you thought you thought of everything you us open it's never at this for you come in it's a great venue Arthur Stadium and so I'd love to have both of you there and show you firsthand and now I will extensively give you a long-winded answer to that great question it's I believe in the wrestling of the past the present in the future the top stars of the past like still have great value and can still come in and contribute in a meaningful way if you you know and and sting and Jake the Snake are still a huge part of our show just as an example and then you know top stars are the present like the best wrestlers in the world Chris Jericho Kenny Omega John Moxley and stars of the future like Jungle Boy who like gets a lot of a lot of hype and is the number one contender to the title right now and MJF I don't know if you guys are familiar with him but he's one of the top young wrestlers in the world at 24 Dr. Britt Baker our women's champion who's one of the best acts in wrestling is legit Dentes legit doctor you guys would love her she'd be a great person to come hang out because she's a huge football person too she's a Penn State grad and went to dental school at Pitt she's dope but she's a Steelers fan which I don't like and we have just great roster like really young talent that is you know some of them became like viral wrestling stars before AW and like you know they're being pushed in a meaningful way so it's not like I said the past the present in the future all in one and then trying to keep it into a fun organized show that delivers like good wrestling every single Wednesday so as AW is that like your main job if you were saying your full-time job is running AW or how much time do you split between that and handling Jaguar stuff dude like I always do his work I don't have so I jaguar and it's totally depends on the season like between on a Wednesday night during a day W absolutely but I split my time in a pretty crazy way and I work a lot of like 20 hour days and do crazy stuff and like work a lot of like 90 plus I mean oh my kidding like oh I a lot more than 90 hours a lot of weeks between the three things and it just depends on where we're at in the season and where we're at NFL season where we're at with English football season and of course where AW is so it changes day to day but I mean you ever just wake up and you're like this feels like a football day I'm gonna do football stuff no it's crazy dude yeah like yeah it's like but it's also hard to switch sometimes like I get so like the draft especially Saturday because I'm like I am a big person on Saturday in the NFL draft I will tell you that because I believe in the undrafted free agency and I that is the thing that is like my Christmas in the NFL is the last day of the draft I love signing undrafted free agents over half our secondary is our players that I signed is undrafted free agents like I get on the phone I chase guys and you've got right now got you know I take a lot of pride and it's gonna come in and compete at nickel for us and he's a guy from Vanderbilt I called and scouts had nothing on him you know at the time and I got him for like a very small signing bonus and he took a chance and now he's an important player for us Jared Wilson who made plays for us in the AFC playoff and he's been starting free safety out of Michigan as another guy who came out a really small guarantee and signed James Robinson out of Illinois State Corey Grant at Auburn who did really well against the Patriots in the playoffs and then had a career-ending injury he's a great running back well I've done a lot of players on the second during a lot of running backs Mike Hilton is a guy Gus Cutt Mike Hilton got Mike Hilton went on to be a very good player I got him for like five thousand dollars gonna get back to Tony Khan in a second but before we do Norton 360 with life lock would like a word it feels like everything that we do online comes with some sort of risk if you're buying a pair of socks online it might sound simple enough but then the online store wants as much personal information from you as possible what does your credit score your eye color your blood type your mother's made a name or social security number have to do with buying socks no one wants to be unsafe online but every time you give up info and privacy you might give up a little bit of your safety too Norton 360 with life lock helps keep your digital life safer you get a device security you get a VPN to keep your Wi-Fi activity private you get identity theft protection all in one known to prevent all cyber crime or identity theft or monitor all transactions at all businesses but you can choose to be safer online you just opt in to cyber safety with Norton 360 with life lock join now and save 25% or more off your first year at Norton.com slash PMT that's Norton.com slash PMT saved 25% and now more Tony Khan why if we're talking Jaguars let's talk this real quick what's your problem why don't you like Blake Portals I love Blake he's our best friend he's my good friend I love Blake and I hung out with Blake at your guys party he's our best friend I've run into Blake at your guys oh yeah look there it is right there Jack's right I know I saw it I love Blake Blake's break Blake's one of the all-time leaders in NFL his cards per care yep let's go the best back on that name I have tons I love the big boat guy you pass that test good friend also I mean technically one of you guys in a championship game yeah because I the refs took that miles Jack wasn't that miles Jack he was not that are you fine for saying that miles Jack wasn't down there's like Jack's and he wasn't down we've signed all over town it's a fact miles Jack wasn't down yep no he wasn't down um what's up with the pool we've swam in the pool it's great yeah we've done it he was it for AW actually in the stadium stampede in the paper view okay and we had Urban Meyer and Charlie Strong in the stadium stampede this year yeah how how that work with Urban Meyer doing the AW stuff did you have to like coach him up yeah I mean yeah and he's my piece of my friend so we were at work and then that's like sometimes the crossing over I was in his office and we're looking at the roster and he you know we were getting ready to he's packing up his briefcase and I said would you maybe do me a pretty big favorite tomorrow and he said what's your what is it and I told him what it is that would you appear in the stadium stampede and you know it'd be like you and Charlie you're working in your office late on Sunday night and and and Charlie's a huge wrestling fan so he's gonna get a huge kick out of this man and then two of the top wrestlers Chris Jericho and MJF are gonna brawl through your office while you're working and it'd be like what the hell and we'll just improv a great scene and he was like yeah sure man and he came in and Urban's the best man and Urban and Charlie were happy to do it so it was a fun crossing over to the two things it's a second stadium stampede we'd done and it was great I'm gonna be respectful I have said some things about Urban Meyer I'm not gonna say them in front of you because I think that would be disrespectful it's great man yeah yeah yeah agree to disagree but that's that's respect that's just respect why do you like urban well I don't want to do this oh no I actually don't want to do this I think urban's I don't want to maybe help him because he's not gonna say it I'm gonna fucking say it instead of pressing you look at all these at 11 kind of a parting shot and we'll walk away which is this I'm a good I don't look at them I know them really well now and I didn't know them at all and people get a reputation in life sometimes and it's not really fair and he's changed my life and he's really like an awesome person he changed my life and the six months I've known him for whatever it is five months and he uh the way he motivates people and I know you're not gonna wanna here if you don't like him but if you get to know him there is something about him and you wonder why this guy has been so successful coach is a fantastic coach but as a person there's something I'm just saying with you know if you came in here and you worked with him I don't think I would like him yeah I probably have my back if I anything bad well you would have you worked here yeah I'm saying if you worked with urban you would love him so does he actually think that he's in the military no great he puts up these I remember being a house I got signs up that says like you are you know I spent three years working with God bless him he's a great man and I love him I spent like three years working with Tom like it was way more like the military that's true that's like what was that like what did you have to ask him if it was okay if you use the bathroom or is that all Tom's Tom is a Tom's also a very misunderstood great person and I really enjoyed him but you know he's been so successful great coach great man but it was a lot more like I said that military theme was probably more prevalent with Tom than with urban okay so I'm actually interested because he just started working there urban you have like a new relationship you're technically his boss how like how far into the relationship okay my dad and urban have a great relationship I work with urban my dad's urban all right so how does that work though like in terms of being a new head coach like as an owner are you like you seem come in and you're like mmm 915 this morning interesting not at all no and I'm not known for being like the morning I work I work these crazy hours but I work through the night all night and so no in urban's a more early morning guy in fact it's on the other way where I pull the all-nighter and so it's a he's great did you ever have the discussion with him when you're drafting Trevor Lawrence that along here quarterback is never one super that's a question no I mean that's why you're the analytics guy you know are you by us there you bias you're self-hating long-haired guy no I'm honestly just somebody that understands the history of football and so you look back throughout every quarterback that's one of Super Bowl you know this trends I'll put it this way I would never draft me to play quarterback for my team in the NFL I can recognize I think I'm self-aware in that way what if you just got a haircut yeah John United overall haircut you can set your watch yeah exactly but I mean you can look at the analytics and be like okay the average air length of every quarterback is usually somewhere between half an inch and one and a half inches and there's actually like something to the fact that you can get tackled by your hair to his or sack of quarterback along here I'm just curious if those conversations took place behind the scenes no no they did what about did you guys have any was there ever a second where you're like maybe won't take Trevor Lawrence that's a great question I mean you know you just did the work trend our GM trend went through you did it like every player you know without reputation go through and Trent and urban and everybody went through and went through all the quarterbacks and gave everybody a fair shape I'm gonna say something nice about over my I thought it was an awesome move that he hired Trent bulky because Jim Harbaugh hates Trent bulky and that was just sticking it to a little more we know Trent had been with us for about a year before okay then I straight straight out from the record he was the interim he was the interim because sir well he was he did he did want to work with them because they didn't know each other coming in and they built a great good GM he's great yes you've been our interim GM and then you know they were hiring at the same time both jobs Trent's great to have you got a chance to talk to some people yet yeah of course what's he like great guy what's he like he's a really nice guy he's a really nice guy he's a nice life he's a motivator he's they both are yeah both I mean they really both are and that's I and they're both really special people absolutely have you got a scene plate that yet yeah how's he looking he's good he caught a pass the other just yet and you know he's really looking pretty lit you know it's it's a lot of reps in training camp I would say this he's for somebody coming in and playing the position after being off that long you'd be shocked he's been out that long are you concerned that he's gonna be too much of an alpha for Trevor Lawrence he's gonna come in I don't know if you saw the video clip but on his first day at training camp he's walking next to him pat some heart on the back grabs his hand shakes it pulls his hand over clearly like body language mentally physically alphas Trevor Lawrence is that going to be an issue no you want your quarterback to the guy so we have alpha quarterback Trevor's the man who are going to mention I'll go to gardeners great to yeah gardeners great I have a lot of energy I think is a good thing and you know Trevor's the ultimate alpha and so we have a great room great bunch of you know really great bunch of people and Tim in the tight end room is adding something I think so it'll be really interesting and but Trevor's doing great we had you know our last full day of mini-campus yesterday and Trevor tore it up dude tore it up yeah yeah let's talk some soccer real quick so I own Swansea you own foam you guys have come down to you got relegated that sucked how much of that's not because I you know I went through my own relegation woes a couple years ago it's painful man I'm here for you yeah it's terrible I didn't know I was I we're having fun and like making light of stuff but I can't make like that it's a worse thing you know yeah sucks yeah it sucks and you know going through it it's really hard what what about the super league you guys I noticed the foam came out and said that no Super League for us you did release that statement after I released a statement saying no super league for Swansea so you're a little late but that's okay well what you would I think you know timing wise I think we were two of the early statements and I think it was a good thing to make a statement about early what what do you make of that whole thing though because it's it's like we haven't had someone you're in a unique spot that you own Cologne an American franchise and you know there's only a few people who do this and the other guys who have it were part of the Super League so what did you make of the entire thing well there are other American owners I think and there are not all the American owners were involved with it and you know it's these things happen in business I don't think it's the end of the world and it got worked out pretty well and it's funny how it was the biggest story in sports for a couple days and it's completely dropped off the map now but you know it's in the past it's water under the bridge I think yeah when are you guys moving to Jaguar so one come on now especially I don't see the stuff we're doing in Jacksonville yeah I have it's been one of those narratives that's existed for the last like 10 years and it just it gets brought up all the time and I know that it's not true what was it like it was 100 million dollars how much money is like being invested a lot of money a lot of money yeah money than I can count is being put in Jacksonville so it's not true but did those rumors like because they were persistent they've been persistent they've been around at least it's like 2012 as far as I can remember do they ever like get to anybody in the building or is it something that like you had to like clearly communicate to everyone hey just so you know we're not moving team how often did you have to say that to people I think I mean you asked it on a weekly basis back in the day but now this is the first time I've been asked in a long time because especially because the headlines about all the great stuff we're doing in Jacksonville I mean Jacksonville has been a great home for us like you know I living there through the pandemic it's been you know I'm working out of the stadium and doing everything out of there and it's been great and you know being able to stay engaged with jaguars but also it's been a great home for AW and like the you know AW we started bringing fans back and doing live shows in August in safely like we've been doing shows since August outdoor we started at 25 percent in our you know 5,000 C&F theater so we would have crowds I think we started at 20 percent we would be like a thousand and upped it to 25 it was like 1250 the jags then a couple weeks later when NFL started the jags in the Chiefs were the only teams the NFL that have fans we've won yeah and like and we jags went the whole season note transmissions in the you know so doing these outdoor shows you know it was great I don't do either you guys go to the national championship game of the Super Bowl we went to the national championship game it was great right oh sorry the last one before covid did you even know either of the covid champions no I was in both in Florida they were great both great live event experiences they did and so the people have been putting on my philosophy early in the pandemic when like our competitor was not doing any live shows of fans and went with virtual fans I kind of went the other way and I had I pushed back a little bit on the idea of virtual fans because I wanted to get I knew it was possible to do shows if we were outdoors in the samphet theater in Florida we should be able to get like 25 percent like a drive-in movie theater is very awesome and I was like let's bring it back and we were the first ones to do it this whole time we've had fans and we were doing pay-per-views with like all through the pandemic for over a year with like 1250 people and it's like yeah it's not the full 5,000 but it's like 25 it still resembles or you know what I mean it's a wrestling environment right yeah the same like dynamic and it was hard watching you know you're other people are watching you know people up on a jumbo tran like you know in little boxes and it's like it's not the same and the crowd noise being piked in is not the same so but there's nothing like a packed houses and we're going back to that here in July we're doing this tour you know we've got road rager in Miami we got two weeks of fighter fest in Austin and Dallas and then fight for the fallen which is this show we always give money back to charity and do a different charity every year and that's in Charlotte and it's like our tour back full arenas I've been in Jacksonville for over a year and the fans in Jacksonville like it turned into like an old school like 70s 80s wrestling territory that's sick what's uh if you had a flash word like 10 years from now what would be a success for ADW what would be like hey we did this uh it would be that we I think maintaining first of all lasting and keeping a show going and then you know debuting another show this year like if both shows are really strong of dynamite and rampage are both really strong shows 10 years from now hopefully even stronger than now I would be so proud are you worried though a little bit that like the best pay-per-view names have already been taken I have the best pay-per-view of that we don't because I don't do 76 pay-per-views so I have four pay-per-view pay-per-view instead of like you know 29 so there's quarter like quarterly like the big yeah right so uh we have Memorial Day weekend we do double nothing which we just have okay I like it it it's like it's like Vegas empty and ran sold it out fastest on Vegas wrestling history double nothing Vegas themed we just had to do it in Jacksonville with some of the big poker chips and stuff and it was first wrestling pay-per-view pack house that since you know the light at the end of the tunnel yeah and it was so sick we just had it Memorial Day weekend and then uh every uh every you'll appreciate this dude every uh Labor Day weekend we do a show in Hoffman Estates around Schomburg at what the Naurina used to be the seer center yeah we're the sky used to play yeah yeah yeah yeah we do that every and that's actually no that's where the balls play the the G link the G link yeah yeah yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes that is where they play and uh there's also there's other yeah there's other stuff other too but anyway it's it's now it's used to be called the seer center now it's called I think the Naurina um and so we do like a fan we're doing a fan fest and a pay-per-view there it's called all out all out okay all right I'm going down to one all out to just right now they kind of sound like uh no fear shirts yeah back in the night like that your tastes like chicken well I think you're gonna like the next uh the next one which is then or in like November I do this one I'm doing on a Saturday because like why in November I'm not gonna go up against Sunday football and that great against my own product smart smart head to head with my own product no no no no no no Jaguars probably flexed out of that well I think we'll be doing so I think you know we could be I'm kidding but we are jagging off we love the Jaguars yes we do but we also missed dearly the Thursday night games against the Titans well we'll see you know hey but they could be some big games against the Titans this year yeah yeah uh Thursday yeah you're saying the Thursday thing was a great tradition though it's been a great tradition uh but yeah so uh back to what we were saying we before I guess I saw it but full gear is we do in November full gear fucking it's great you got the big the if you saw the set it's so cool the full gear set is uh is is dope and then we come back or it's like every four years is a leap day try to hit we did the first one on a leap day so you know it can't say leap day but give or take like the end of February or the first weekend in March do revolution okay revolutions fire uh revolutions a dope show and so we are revolution double or nothing all out in full gear okay yeah all right that's okay I was just thinking like Wrestlemania the name Wrestlemania like you can't really beat that but those are good I'm gonna give you credit those are good I'd want other soccer they'll tell you something like that double or nothing last year and this year my opinion was a better show the pandemic unbiased opinion it's a it's you know what as objective opinion I think it was and I like this year's Wrestlemania a lot better than last year's because they had they have some fans this year and everyone worked there everyone there worked their ass off both years but this year both I think good shows they did a two night show and it was a good show uh I thought double nothing this was outstanding and it was the best wrestling show of the year so far and last year double or nothing in the pandemic it kicked the shit out of Wrestlemania last year like the pandemic version last year not even close double or nothing much better show yeah it was weird watching the with no fans um all right so one last soccer question you obviously do analytics for football is there analytics for soccer and what it looks like of course yeah but what is it like kick it kick it more into the goal take it more time it's the only I'm sure you know I know it's more of a trick question it's a huge good oh yes it's a huge community the soccer analytics community the european football analytics community so there's a company's opta is a big company in the data tracking space there's tons of information they provide and you can learn about this and create vorp metrics like in baseball what's the new what's the new age like strategy like say the uh analogy to you know teams throw not running the ball as much and throwing on first down or analogy to like teams you know saying obp means more than batting average of baseball what's the thing in soccer that you can point to and like oh this is what they're doing different and it's it's kind of work i mean there's a lot of i think people do a lot of work on set pieces now and in addition a lot of work on set pieces i think uh there's a lot of stylistic analytics but i think it's a lot of it's just player evaluation like people are using analytics or player evaluation and scouting and it's you know it's big yeah is it that that short corner on the ground that everyone's sitting right now is that a result of the analytics i mean there's some because like you know i think people have plays and trying to get people like from there getting people up into the box or trying to create a different angle but uh there's there's some reasons why people do that and sometimes if they just that can be like like checking out checking out checking out of a play we're about having a guy on the team that bites people i feel like that's hot and soccer that's not always hot that is not good i feel like that's that hopefully it happens every once i'm up it does it does have is that weird to say though like it's a pretty common occurrence in soccer if somebody will bite somebody i don't think it's a common occurrence it's like there's like four five it happens yeah notable times in last couple years well so far as i think it was like at least eight years ago there's one yesterday yeah since i was like scratching like zero days but yeah right it's a bite i got one uh one of the like fan safety question talking about the pandemic stuff but in terms of fan safety did you guys take any measures to like put a fence around the jaguar statue i think i got his head stuck in it no but i you know what's funny is i go by the statue going into work like every day and like i never once i never once in my life if i ever thought like in the thousands of times i've walked by that never i think put your head in there i don't know why anybody's the funniest picture i love it so so much i think they get that kid out did they call the fire department i think he's dead no no he's not he's fine he's fine he's fine he's fine he's fine he's like can't make it yeah no that that picture is i think they might have sure i went and studied it when we were there i think they shaved the teeth a little bit so that it wouldn't happen anymore does that jack we're have a name i've never named i think it's touchdown touchdown touchdown what's the name of the mascot again jaxon deville that's right yeah last year the stadium stand p u jackson deville ate a judas effect from christi arco okay jackson deville i think is the best master if you have to have a mascot which i don't think that nfl teams should have a nickname or a mascot it's kind of candy ass but if you have to have one i think jackson deville is the way to go that's great i appreciate it's kind of candy ass have you thought about renaming your team the jackson jacksonville football team no because there's only you know that's your football team's name yeah it is it's true yeah jackwars are cool yeah jackwars dope i think it's great it's great time to be a jack fan yeah um all right it actually is a great time to jack spin by and now uh well tony this has been awesome we appreciate it i'm going to try to start watching more wrestling again i'm like the i'm the guy you're probably trying to capture the guy who loves the concept of wrestling it is still real to me uh and then you know just trying to get back into it find my way back into it that's exactly what you were exactly the kind of person we're trying to capture i would love it if you please watch more wrestling okay and then are there you you promise there's a roof there's a roof okay well i'll look into that that's the place you got the chicken tenders you can dip into the coke it's where jor great season and you know they're going to be one of the tough teams for us to play this year and uh you know looking into it uh it's that playoff is tough you know yeah i've the three seasons uh that i've been with the team of three seasons that i've been the director of football and run the player acquisitions and transfers um we've actually been in the playoff every year that i've done it and we've won it two out of three times wow so uh if we do go uh the playoff is there to be one but i hopefully we'll get the auto promotion will work really hard to do it yeah love it cool all right thanks tony thank you thanks for having me tony is brought to you by noom we love noom when it comes to losing weight there's a lot of pressure out there it's a label foods good or bad but that just creates unnecessary dilemmas noom is here to change how we see food with a psychology based approach that looks at what you eat but also how you eat instead of making you feel guilt or regret noom empowers you to keep going not everyone wants to be on a strict diet not everyone wants to do two days at the gym or drink questionable tees i've been trying to drink broth every day i finally came to the conclusion today that's not sustainable to do nothing but just drink broth and live off broth uh but noom can help you out if you've been going through diet struggles if you've been on crash diets they actually have a much healthier approach that i'm going to be taking they teach you how to look at eating how to look at wellness as a whole it's based in psychology it's very very healthy way to get you to a healthier balance that's moldable to your life and as a result it's more sustainable that way because crash diets at home crash diets because you crash while you're on them and then you crash back right after you get off them noom prevents all that it helps you develop a healthy relationship with food they use a cognitive behavioral approach so it helps you unlearn some of the bad habits and develop noom's one size does not fit all choose your goals and noom will personalize a weight loss program to you 80 percent of noom users finish the program over 60 percent have stuck with their goals for at least a year that's huge 60 percent of people that use this have stuck with their goals for at least a year that's unbelievable and you can start building better habits for healthier long-term results by signing up for your trial at noom.com slash pmt sign up for your trial at n o o m dot com slash pmt here he is patrick wisdom and that was something completely different okay we now welcome on very special guest is the greatest baseball player of all time over a 10 game period right is that not true i guess it's true yeah it's patrick wisdom from the chicago cubs i love him he is here in studio they're playing the Mets uh so we're gonna probably run this later on next week let's start there i saw you in the hallway and i mentioned it to you but you guys played against jake up the ground last night just how much does that suck like actually put it into perspective for the regular fan how different it is going up against the ground versus everyone else yeah it was a major suck uh he shoved it last night it's like going into a into a test knowing you're gonna fail like there's nothing you can do like he's just gonna overpower you and you're gonna walk back to the dugout saying i don't know what i'm doing out here yeah just answer c every time if you went out every four times it'll be right right yeah like sit on one pitch a guy like that are you is there just one pitch that you're waiting for you like maybe maybe i'll get a slider that doesn't break yeah or it's maybe the hundred mile in our fastball that you try to hit but i mean the first pitch i dare leave and saw like at the gloane really yeah like you can't you don't even because it's that fast in that much movement it explodes out of his hand like it gained speed as it gets to the glove it was it was something i never seen before obviously but wow that's terrifying yes i guess the the scouting reporter just hope he has to leave with some kind of cramp or something even though like that's the craziest part is how good he's been and he's also been injured like every other day right um so for people don't know your story uh i obviously know because i watched the Cubs and i'm a Cubs fan but you were first on draft pick for the Cardinals in 2012 basically fighting your way through the minors never really got your big break then you come up the Cubs have been injured this year you come up this year and you lit the world on fire so you hit nine home runs in 10 games is that right yeah nine home runs 10 games uh been hitting everything like it's got to be has it were in day i don't know like 20 or something of this has have you been able to like settle down and be like holy shit like i'm here and i'm doing this a little bit yeah sometimes i catch myself thinking that out in the field honestly it's probably not a good place to do it but you know just taking it all in and um i mean it's pretty special honestly yeah like something i didn't really dream of and just kind of happened yeah now that you're on the Cubs you can admit like you always hated st louis right i might get some flack from the st louis fans but i mean they treated me well there too so no do it it's okay no one is in louis luson's show we actually we banned the entire city several years ago yes uh yeah i mean really sick the fans they're really cool way better than the Cardinals fans yeah agreed i would say it's yeah it's a lot louder yeah yeah i mean you got the the beer cup snake too i mean y'all you got the bleachers it's it's not the compete with that they know when to applaud to win to cheer and st louis sometimes they're all over the place you know yeah for some stuff that doesn't really deserve applause yeah yeah fair point yes you said it not me i'm curious to know where you stand because we have to talk spider tack actually i've got some spider tack right here oh look at that do you like what you see don't touch it don't touch some of this because then you could get in trouble like shake you know cowl hinders hand or something yeah it's actually got like tree nuts at it so if somebody's allergic to sesame seeds or whatever it can kill them oh that that's not something that's not allergy bad not allergy are you do you follow on the on the side of like the pitchers are using certain substances for control to get a better grip and as a hitter that's actually beneficial to you are you like have you noticed over the course the last few years like there's been a difference in how pitches are moving out of certain guys hands yeah i mean i'm all for the control aspect you know no one wants to get hit with a fast ball or anything like that and then uh but i think if you're using it to like manipulate the ball and i mean you've seen some sliders that look like a whiff of ball it's like trying to hit a whiff of ball in the backyard you're good luck you know um so i'm all for if it's going to be for control and um you know trying to throw strikes and i'm all for it because as an infielder trying to throw a ball with no grip that sucks too so i get that part of it you know if you get a ground ball in the ball is kind of slick and it's like throwing a cue ball to first base and yeah it's not fun which is what you whatever you get a ground ball that's what it feels like because the Cubs don't cheat so that was a smart way of saying that because there's nothing on the ball um so like your your story is great it's very baseball like you know having your big break when you're 29 is it weird in the clubhouse like how do you get treated because you're not a rookie but you also haven't had like you know this long career but you're also producing really well was there a moment where you felt comfortable like hey i can i can bust balls or is that not happening oh yeah i think i happen day one when i came in and rizzo busted my balls for being in the cage um and so i just practicing yeah well like i wasn't playing so i was trying to just like you know fit in my routine and the guys were playing that day and i'm just like waiting to hit and you know next thing i know like an hour goes by because everyone else has to hit and then rizzos like you're still in here like just busting my balls for it yeah breaks the ice right away and so from that on it's just been i feel like i'm one of the boys i love that i love that do you have any superstitions we love weird baseball superstitions i think my favorite was that one uh post-season where everybody just showed up wearing those fight necklaces oh yeah yeah do you have any fight necklaces i did yeah those are collecting dust somewhere though i don't know where do they work some games yeah if you hit a home run it was definitely a fight in that for sure yeah but do you have anything that you do in particular uh yeah i mean sure i i i got this one uh so if i'm doing good or if i on a good little spell i don't watch my jockstrap okay yeah okay let's let it do drop yeah so wait that means you haven't watched your drop yet right like right yeah i mean like do the math yeah you're on an all-time heater right now i think you've had a hot start definitely is it the hottest start to any career it was baseball history it's like 1941 i saw someone like that you were one of the only guys to ever do this where it's like nine home runs in ten games yeah i mean yeah that's that's all i don't i don't even know what was going on so i was just that we say the ball in the ball the ball looks bigger if when you're on a hot streak when you're in the zone has the ball actually look bigger to you uh yeah and some of that's for sure um but it's just more like you're comfortable up there you're not worried about getting beat you know you just know that something's gonna happen um what's the lamest newspaper headline that you've ever seen that's incorporated your last name poorly into it good question yeah that is a good question because i feel like if you played in the 40s or 50s there would be some real real stinkers yeah yeah i mean i think the one that gets used the most is like daily wisdom you know yeah daily that's just very uh repetitive but age before wisdom yeah maybe so the the stat was uh eight home runs in ten games was it's the ties the record for most by any player in the first ten games with the team since 1900 that's pretty and then i love this quote from Ian Hap who is a friend of ours he says the the guy has seven pumps already and he hasn't been here that long i just like calling home runs pumps pumps that's great yeah we're first one on the cubs it did uh i don't remember do they not give you like i mean that wasn't your first career home run but do they do any superstitious like not you know high five you i love when that yeah i do that happen now our first home run no i kind of wish it did though yeah that'd be kind of cool you got robbed i did yeah in that sense that's the best when everyone ignores you in the dugout and it's like very very funny and you're set to stand there like fuck yeah did you actually feel like i don't know left out like not one of the guys because they didn't punk you i felt left out because you know all these protocols i was in a different locker room when i showed up oh really so yeah it was just me i was just by myself in this other locker room like very bonds yeah i just felt kind of left out and then yeah i got thrown into the fire and hit a homer then everyone's my friend again i was like yeah we need to back in this locker room yeah the fastest way to get it done have um have you ever thought about like getting in and late in-game when you guys are up on a 1314 runs and pitching i love that that's literally on my bucket list you can't do that though because that's rizzo staying like he loves doing that i know but you beat him to the mound maybe then i'll yeah who's got better stuff i mean he hasn't any of the big like i don't so i think he's two yeah he shook out for every three minute you know and every piece so yes i don't have that on my setline and also he's best friends with david ross so that kind of yeah he's got it in there yeah which which in your arsenal like what do you have you got a slider you got a knuckle ball yeah i got it all okay you know as position players we love to play catch you know before the games and stuff and then it just turns into like a little bullpen session and see what we can throw see what works see what doesn't work yeah was was there ever a point in your career that you were like close to saying i'm done like i'm gonna quit um i never thought about quitting i thought maybe about pitching like hey i know i have a good arm like let's see if i can oh really like you could you think you could throw that that that hard what's that hard like like i can i can i've been i'm above ninety for sure really yeah okay so you should pitch you should do i mean show hey oh hey that's yeah he's on another level that would be pretty sick but there wasn't ever like because it is you know baseball is there's no sport like it in that if you get drafted first round any other sport you're playing maybe hockey a little bit but like you're playing right away oh yeah you know what i mean and baseball it's a grind and you're you know up and down and down and up right so there was never a point where you're like man like is this gonna ever break for me like is this ever gonna work out for me yeah i mean those thoughts happen they come through your head like hang like what am i what am i gonna get there what am i gonna get my chance um but at the end of the day i was still putting food on the tail for my family and like it was a cool gig being at your place when you get to go to cool cities you're with the boys in the in the clubhouse and on the road and i mean it's it's a ton of fun so i also read that you you have like uh you did like some kind of like positive vibes thinking something you read a book and you're like change your life yeah i mean i guess like an odd moment but yeah just like we just do positive vibes tell us that can you explain that to us we would love to get into it no it's just like just perspective just like how you see things and like what you what you take from what you see you know so i don't i honestly don't like i always see like when i'm watching a game i'm like here comes the loss yeah so like obviously i think that too like i'm or we're down like we're probably gonna lose but like if i can walk away from my about or like what i did with a positive like thought then it helps me tomorrow or the next day or i can go to sleep you know well i'm not like dwelling i'm like oh shit i'm over 10 all right let me give you a scenario um you strike out uh the count is one and two okay pitch comes in you foul tip it third pitch comes in you swing and you miss you walk back to the dugout how are you spins owning that or are you like well at least i make contact on that one pitch uh it would be like if the pitch was in the zone um that swing that swing out of pitch i wanted to swing at you swung out of strike yeah as opposed yeah i suppose like chasing a 50 footer um you know the bounces before the plate or pitch over my head which i've you know i've done in the past so then you walk back and you're like gosh you're so stupid you know like you're swinging at you're saying the same things the fans are saying to you know in your head you're like what are you swinging at so positive you have to find little things one thing that's positive about even the most negative interaction that you have yeah just because i mean especially in this game it's so negative like you're gonna fail 70% of the time and then you're gonna be good like if you fail 70% of the time you're probably the whole thing which is crazy to think about right and any other like sector of life that just doesn't happen you're you're probably fired yeah so it's just being able to like wrap your head around that perspective and like just enjoy it's a game i'm gonna try to start doing that it's not like like you know i showered today yeah just here you go positive thought here you go yeah did you do pf day i i showered my body yeah now you're here i'm not right here i'm not right here i'm not right here you can't watch every day and you know what you can't watch every day and you know what you can't win them all so you gotta i can't dwell on that big guy i gotta look forward to the next opportunity to watch my hair yeah yeah you just move on yeah just put on a baseball cap and then you go to work there you go um i have one last question what's your you're you're not gonna like this question but what's your um are you your free agent after this year right if if the cubs take me off the roster i'll be free agent got it okay because i i was gonna say what's it like knowing that like ricketts is totally gonna cut all the costs and not sign any of like hobby or rizzo or curse brian so you probably are gonna benefit from that i could benefit from that if that were the case yeah i mean i hope they don't um it'd be cool to come back next year and play with all those yeah is it fun playing with hobby it's short yeah he's got so much swag oh my gosh it's like i'm wishing some swag will come over to me but um yeah it's incredible he does i mean the playmate yesterday was was really tight were you when you're in the dugout when that that play gets the pirates happened when you chase them all the way like he lured them back to home plate yeah what was that like in in the dugout as he was just like making a clown of entire franchise i think we were all mind-blown too like what just happened because he's doing that then he called him the runner at home safe yeah and then he was like oh i got run a first ran a first call himself save and then ran a second it was also one of those plays that you like start questioning whether you know the rules like i was like do i know the rules like what just happened here like wait a second like yeah how was that possible i didn't think you could run backwards though yeah i thought he was like automatically out of you yeah i thought he was like you reverse course going from from home to first you're automatically out but then it's like no he just found a way to do it at any point the first baseman could have just been like you know what i'm tired of chasing i'm gonna walk back to first baseman put on it and then all i had to do into the inning and then he no run scored nothing right did he say anything to you after he got after he like rejoined the team was he like holy should i can't believe they actually followed me home plate pretty much yeah like what were they doing like what were they thinking yeah um but i think that was just if he asked go like no one knew what to do and everybody like mind blew everybody yeah oh here's a quick headline we'll make before we go if you were asked to do the home under we do it oh heck yeah okay so there we go okay i'll listen says that he would do the home under yeah that's all we need that's just a headline we'll throw out there and if you get in you have to be christian yelich yeah well he's in it good response probably not i know i'm just bad he's bad well he's not bad don't want to say that no we don't want to mention we have a so i have to eat big cats ass and he has to eat my ass christian yelich every window under me it's one of those things that you say just in the moment we've had a lot of bonch be a scenario but he's a very good guy and uh it was like probably three years ago and he was like yeah i got a home run swing this was before he won his mvp i was like no you fucking and then he's like yeah i can hit home runs and we're like all right well if you ever win the home under we will each host asses and now we're like you're like you're too but yeah yeah i figured i know if christian was in on this uh no he's just sitting there he just tortures us every now and then he'll like remind us but then he heard his back last year or the year before so he had to be pull out and then last year obviously there wasn't a home under me so we're just yeah it's just a ticking time bomb first i think we dodged a little that one it would be incredible to watch us like big cat think it's gonna happen no i'm still nervous yeah dodge a bullet i think i don't i think that it's time has passed i'm not i'm not there was it like to be totally honest with you there was about a 30 day period where we had to plan out how we were going to each other's asses and maybe actually like shave a piece of skin off yeah we're gonna like mix it in with chili or something like that cannibalism yeah but that's i mean if you have to take away to do it that's that's the only way that you can like look yourself in the mirror i never be able to visit a dentist after that yeah every problem that comes up i just automatically think well that must be for big cat shit yeah cannibal i am still nervous because i do think that like you know how a player like i still have things left to prove i think that's all he has left to prove yeah what if he knows he's like i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i give me the derby yeah like i'm not even gonna play in the season i'm just gonna play in the dirt basically would probably do that to get ratings yeah like knowing that that's what was on the line so there was like a half second when you said that you would compete i was about to say something really stupid but i didn't because i've learned from yelling from yelling from the bottom just gonna root for you so just go i hope you win it yeah i hope you feel also do you still do you respect 90 still respect 90 yeah miles an hour no running to first base running you always respect 90 yeah just want to make sure sure okay yeah i want to see you not respect 90 no you got any point you got it okay like if you hit one into the gap but you think it's gone and you may be not run so hard out of the box and not respecting yeah i mean you can't leave the league and double stop in the first right there it is that's a great point yeah because if you still get thrown out of second you still get a base hit that's true yeah yeah do you ever um do you ever sprints in first base on a walk i haven't done that no do it do it do it next one do it one time do it on like Sunday night baseball yeah or no tonight if you walk against the Mets which will even be better because no one this isn't gonna come out till next week so then we'll like do a call back people like why why do you do that now this is out there's why i go along way with the old beat writers they'll be great you know what he plays the game the right right yes that'll be great that'll be great okay um all right well this has been awesome man you're welcome back anytime recurring guests thank you keep hitting home runs it's fucking sad it was along swingy pit uh in your entire career oh my entire career yeah like 460 something i think they lie by the way i think so too there are times when a guy will hit one into like out of the park or like if you hit one out of rigley and they're like yeah that was four you know sixty seven like no it wasn't yeah five hundred give him five hundred yeah like i was standing in judge him like okay i didn't go 427 it that went like five hundred twenty seven yeah dude we went to the all-star game in Miami and and uh judge hit a home run that hit the like back wall of the stadium like super high up and they're like yeah those four eadies like dude that was never gonna land it was literally never gonna land and they also do this thing where if you hit it into like uh like a third deck if you're in toronto or something like that and lands up there they can tell you exactly how far it would have gone like when it hits a seat that's only 370 feet away or whatever right i don't trust that man yeah i don't trust that cast either that cast made up yeah i think they just guess i think they're like oh he hit that hard 110 x applause like that's like i don't like straight up so i'm 50 degrees i swear to god i met the stack guy at rigly once and i just sat there grilling him and he had his two computers out and i was like you're making this up he's like no i swear to god we're not like yeah you are i know you are and like i did he hit one and then i guessed it i was like pretty much right on yeah like so you're making it yeah just don't numbers out there all right well patrick thank you man appreciate it and uh good luck for us this season dude thank you guys it's an honor thank you guys thank you guys yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah patrick wisdom is brought to you by shady rays spring weather longer days are here to stay which is why you need the official shades of part of my take shady rays i'm rocking my shady rays right now i wear them every single day they're my favorite sunglasses in the entire world and whether you're one of the thousands who rock their shades daily like me or you're new to the brand you don't want to miss the great deal that they have going on right now it's time to stock up on sunglasses it's beach season it's lake season it's river season you're going to be losing some sunglasses but you want sunglasses that look awesome so you don't want to break the bank on super super expensive sonies but you do want to get shady rays because they look like awesome super expensive sunglasses but they're very very affordable and if you lose them they have the best best warranty in the entire business they will send you a free pair if you lose them or if you break them no questions asked they're high quality too they're polarized for those trips at lake or if you need a much needed extended vacation you go to shady rays.com and use promo code pmt35 get 35% off the entire order 35% off you can try shady rays blue light glasses they're hottest collection they've got a pmt fan favorite style which is the classic timber with blue light blocking lenses for the indoors and for the outdoors try all their glasses take a look at them find something that you like and you can get 35% off the entire order it's the best time to do it just go to shady rays.com and use promo code pmt35 and we shop with code pmt35 you can get a pair of polarized shades for as low as 31 dollars shady rays.com and use promo code pmt35.

Alex Caruso just got arrested. Oh no no for having the for stealing people's money because his top shot is worth five thousand dollars a piece now. Nope. The castle came up cheating.

Illegal Bosley possession. Nope. What happened? He got arrested for marijuana possession at Texas A&M.

Oh what is he? Throw away the key. That's what he's doing. It's actually not.

That's literally the only place on earth that you can still get arrested for marijuana. Yeah. Alex Caruso, NBA player NBA stud but I feel like the only place where he really probably gets that full stud treatment is Texas A&M. Yeah I just don't know that's a bit but if he gets that stud treatment of Texas A&M you shouldn't get arrested.

Facts. Like you're a big man on campus you're a big man on campus. That's a fact. Oh no Caruso.

I feel like there's more to this story too because you really have to fuck up in 2021 to get busted for pot. LeBron better like come out against him hard. There's kids on Twitter. He's got his movie to sell.

You want kids to be doing weed? They should be drinking wine. All right two ounces That's a significant amount of work. Yeah.

Oh my god. All right. Wait. Caruso's moving away.

I mean. Oh no but like if you're Alex Caruso like you don't just buy like an easy just buy two ounces because who cares about Caruso you have so much money. Right. Yeah but you know you should have someone else buy it for you.

Yeah you gotta call a guy. Yeah you should definitely have a father. You're not you're not you're not that guy. You're not that guy.

Also you're not the by the way guy anymore. You live in California. Right. Right.

Pretty abundant. I'm told that doesn't really add up there. Pretty. And it was by Texas A&M University.

Of course. It's probably the cadets. The cadets probably did like a citizen to rest on them and detained them and waited for law enforcement to come. Yeah.

A weird place. All right. Let's do some Mike Greenberg's Emeralds real quick. So baseball has they're cracking down on the sticky stuff.

They're now doing mandatory checks. Players are making a mockery of it which I personally love. I know the counter-argument will be oh no you know don't take it out on the umpires. Fuck that dude.

That will be sucks. It'll be so stupid. It was very funny seeing Max Scherzer get searched three times. He got searched three times on the mound today.

So my understanding is that the managers can call for like two. Yeah. Or like you get like two free passes. I don't even know exactly what the rules are.

But I do know that Gerardi like asked for a third one on the freezer and Scherzer undid his belt buckle took his glove off took his hat off through that and then Gerardi got tossed later. But it's it's ridiculous. Like at some point I feel like Trevor Bauer when he gets searched he's probably just gonna strip. He's just probably gonna take off the shirt.

That actually just happened in the A's game. It was who was it? Someone just basically stripped. Sergio Romo essentially stripped it from the ompre and I know there's gonna be people like well what should they do?

Let him keep cheating. Yeah. That's what MLB has always done. That's what they did for the steroid era.

That's what they did for the green era. That's what they did for juicing the balls which probably led to the pitchers being like we have to even this somehow by doing the sticky stuff. My whole point is you should fix it. But don't fix it in the middle of the season only after it becomes public because you feel like a fool for letting it go on and having a be open secret for so long.

That's why MLB is stupid. I love how Rob Manfred was like you know what fans we hear you're loud and clear. You want baseball to be more like the TSA. So we're gonna have you take your shoes off put your laptops in a tray.

It's honestly like it's ridiculous that every time they do this they're stopping the game for like seven minutes at a time. It's just so stupid. And then so I got a couple ideas for how maybe we could even this out a little bit. First is just if the manager asks you to ask the umpire to go out there and check the pitcher more than once in a game.

The manager then has to go to bat if they don't find anything. I think you should just if you get checked it should be like not TSA but let's call it like going into a stadium and getting checked going into a stadium. If you get checked and you're able so you get checked the first inning. If you're able to sneak something onto the mound in the second inning it should play.

If you get a flask into the fucking game you should get to drink out of that flask. If you get a nip of pint R. Yeah, you're funny. Yeah.

Or like he pulls off his pants and out of his jock strap comes from here's what we got. What about this? If you if they check you don't get caught you are allowed to use whatever you want from that point forward. You can't be checked for anything.

Right. Like so if let's say the manager is allowed to request you to get checked twice then at that point you can flagrantly cheat for the rest of the game. Yeah, you can just like have a bottle of airplane glue on your hand right and be doing that between pitches. I'm in for it.

And that's all fair. So give you get two times two requests for this. And if it goes past that then you're fucking over your own team. It's just I cannot believe that it's crazy that there are actually people out there who are like I signed with the MLB here.

Well for why they fucking let everyone cheat for their history of the game. And just because they got exposed they're going to they're going to swing the pendulum of justice so hard like you're making a drastic change in the middle of the season. I do think you should stop with the spider tacking all that shit. But this is just so over the top ridiculous.

Yeah. So over the top ridiculous. And it's so classic MLB where they're like well we fucked up and now we didn't care that we fucked up. We care that we got caught and now we're going to just make it so apparent that we're checking everyone that the game gets slower and all the pace of the plate.

It's so stupid. It's so stupid. Okay. I'm watching Sergio Romo right now.

Take his belt off pants all the way down like to his knees. You said I mean they could just hide anything they want under their ballsack. It's like prison. Are there other.

I'm part is going to be like a turn around lifted up Joe S. Will Joe S. Will. All right.

F. A. Q. Is this F.

A. Q. Is then Billy. I do want to say just going back to our conversation about memes earlier.

He did come through Zipper cruder. We got over 3000 people sending their resumes. We went through a bunch. But how I look at it when I go through resumes and it's like you either put your resume with just words on it and memes was like oh I've been doing P&T memes for the last whatever 12 months on my own just doing it.

That obviously says a lot more stuff you are thinking of how to get in the door. It's like just do it. Do it without anyone telling you what to do because then you've got a body of work. Then I look at him.

I don't have to tell someone to do any words here. F. A. Q.

What's your favorite podcast of bar so that you are not affiliated with? That's a good question. I like. It's pretty good.

Nope. What? Well that's not here. That might be a case of radio.

I was affiliated. No. Okay. What?

I can't unplug the fridge. All right. All right. All right.

I like chicklets. Chicklets is amazing. Rispeggles is the best. I like.

What my token CEO. Ah the important show. Always good for the drama. Yeah.

I do listen to that one. I don't listen a lot of podcasts. I went to. I'm not saying this is good.

I'm a college football fan. Color. I like rasps now just listening to all listening. Listing all of them.

Oh son of a boy. Dad. Yeah. Do sass and roan joint.

Those are my guys. Anist. He was mad that you guys encouraged me for the summer. It was funny if we just didn't say it.

Obviously else we've got LCB boys. We've got anist because then they're affiliated with him. Ah sass and Matt you guys though. We're not crediting him for what?

Sinky for the summer. Oh I can't say red line. I'm affiliated. He said that.

I'll walk. Okay. So how many of the how many of the how many of the reality of the situation is we don't have that much time to listen to. They're all very good.

But they are good. We watch all the clips and we listen to them when we can. How many of the friends of PMT are you guys truly close friends with Big Cat said something about if he texted Blake Griffin about hanging out after the title he'd be hit with the Haha reaction to the other Blake's fall into that. What about Jared?

Chris Long. I would consider Chris Long to be a friend of ours. Chris and Kyle are friends. Jared Jared would hang out.

The other Blake's. Yeah Blake. Bortles is like on a 24 hour text delay. But he definitely would hang out.

I feel like Blake kept is a friend. No he's a friend. No I think he would hang out. I think he would definitely hang out.

Brooks would absolutely hang out. Which we're calling somebody like an actual friend when we've only how many times have we met him face to face to face to I think twice. Yeah but there's there's people if I hit him up I was like hey let's get dinner something that he would he Brooks would definitely fall in that category. Who else would fall in that category?

Sue Finer. Sue Finer. Absolutely. Going out there tomorrow for Field Day.

Yep. It's gonna be incredible. We're gonna get him on the show. Um I know make a list.

Florio's family. Yeah. Yeah. Should we make a list?

Take Prico maybe over Florio. Just make a list. We can make a list. No we can make a list.

Make a list Billy. Danny Woodhead. Uh all right. I'm gonna head for sure.

Not a question. I actually did see this a lot in response to the end of show. Rachel Nichols. He count.

Nah. Mark Titus. Wait did you now resell or Rachel Nichols? No Rachel Nichols is cool.

We still know? No. We're still a friend. Are you picking a fight with the front of mine?

You're not that dude. You're not that dude. Like I you're not that guy or that dude. You're neither one.

Like if you really were still you're not we're still. No I just know he would know offense but we're still with snap you in half. Who says I'm just I'm just gonna give my opinion. Why is that coming at me?

Uh I'm gonna tell we're still I'm gonna tell her so that you. I was super solo one on one. Oh and what anything? Oh my gosh.

Chess. Sure. Probably. Yeah.

Hope your wheels in order. Uh by the way did you someone tweeted me that? He posted a picture. I wasn't even sure there was a hoop in it.

It was just him shooting. I was like I'm just posting a video. Yeah I'm sick elevation. Uh we did our wheels.

I don't know why I love your song. I don't know why I love it. I love it. I love it.

Hey he was just clearing out his phone. He made that you made that very clear. He's a bunch of old photos and I clear out and put on Instagram. That's my favorite is when someone's like clearing out my phone from all my summer vacation.

Just randomly thought of these pictures that I clearly was going back through to look at. I'm actually not gonna say the will thing because that was a funny tweet but it's also said. What? What I said you Hank we did a will two years ago on PMT where we all said whatever it gets.

Yeah no. Um my will had lewory and ria. Yeah. Speaking that though.

Someone was like wait a go big cat. Cool takes expose. That is a good transition. This next one I did get a lot of responses and people reaching out after the end of the show on Monday and people being like I went through something similar and part of my take helped me get through that so this FQ is kind of.

So what do you use ZBT? Uh just wanted uh uh no I'm still figuring that out. Oh okay. Just wanted to say thanks to the whole pod especially our special boy Hank big fan of the show.

It's gotten me through some rough times. Love you guys. Oh and something for it. So that's more just like we do get a lot of those messages.

I appreciate them. Nice to see. I thought everyone stepped up. Yeah I thought everyone stepped up like all the responses I saw.

I thought everyone stepped up and was was appropriate and respected and it was nice. It was good to see. We can be adults every now and then. Yeah and sometimes I just don't think about you know we just do the show.

It's our job. It's funny or whatever we have last but it's seeing people that reach out and they're like oh you know this show helps me a lot helps me get through stuff like it's cool to see. Uh let's do one more. Alright I'm not gonna do this to believe that.

Have you guys been back to canton to put flowers at Larry's grave or to see if the tree signs are still there. No fucking chance uh an AWL stole that shit as soon as the fan driver. I would be shocked if Larry's body had not been desecrated at this point. We should actually just say it is the perfect.

Hey remember when everyone stepped up when Hank like opened his heart. Well the reverse of it is when we buried Larry and not 24 hours later some asshole tweeted us and we actually made a pact in this group that we're like we're not gonna give him any shine. He dug up Larry's grave and ripped the thing off and was like I wanted it for my house. You fucking asshole.

I hope you got hit by a bus. Also jokes on you because that wasn't even Larry's body. That was a random goldfish we found out the pet store and killed and buried there just so that you would take it. We still have Larry's body here.

Mm-hmm. It's actually Larry's body and you got it. But fuck you. It's got Jimmy Hoffa's DNA on it so you could be implicated in a crime my friend.