Jakob Freund | On AI Agents in deterministic processes, and new dimensions of orchestration | Episode #70

In this episode, Lasse Rindom speaks with Jakob Freund, CEO of Camunda, on what it really means to build AI-driven automation that’s enterprise-ready - without losing grip on governance, process integrity, or human responsibility. Their lively, deep-cutting discussion covers: The realistic path to AI value - why it’s still about measurable automation, not magic Jakob’s framework of blending deterministic workflows with dynamic agentic AI The rise of “enterprise-grade agents” that own processes (not just perform tasks) How Camunda's orchestration layer became the missing link between structure and AI flexibility Governance, crumple zones, hallucinations, and who really ends up in jail when the agent fails Do you want to know more about Jacob Freund? Jakob is the co-founder and chief executive officer, and is responsible for setting a bold vision and strategy for Camunda. He is also the driving force behind Camunda’s global growth and cohesive company culture. Jakob co-authored the best-selling book, “Real-Life BPMN,” and is a sought-after speaker at technology and industry events. He holds an MSc in computer science from Hochschule für Technik und Wirtschaft Berlin.