Jason Aldean

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What you want to do today is our second guest we had in Nashville, but he was actually our first guest in Nashville. So delighted. He said yes, and came and was a guinea pig. I'm sorry.

Yeah, Jason Aldine Jason Aldine is a Grammy nominated and multi platinum entertainer. Albums include highway that's where I go. My kind of party night train wide open, relentless. And he's on to her now.

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He's an old child. He's an old child. Oh, we were going to cover that. And he was a huge bulldog.

What are you saying? His sister went there. Got to really get into college football. It really is.

My fast past a piss amount of coffee I want to wake her up. I just say roll tight. Now I have no allegiance to that. I'm not like right away from Alabama.

Oh boy, I'm not really unfortunate. A house divided. And did she watch all the games like how we go to? She kind of duped me a little bit.

Because when I first met, I loved college football. I watched the games. My college perfect. I found the perfect girl.

Yeah, yeah. A couple seasons in. She's like something like one of the last things. She really watched the game.

Yeah. It's more about going to the games. It's a whole thing. It's so fun.

When you were doing your target parties before these games, when it was time to go into the game, we were like, fuck, we got one of the games. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I'm going to tell you. Exactly.

I'm going to tell you. Cowboy boots are always good for that. Cowboy boots, let me show it down. I mean, even if they pat you down, I'm going to play that.

You know what? I wonder how you feel like this. We went to a Texas game last year with Matthew McConaughey. We were his guys.

It was very nice to come back to this. You must have met him right. I've met him over the years briefly. I've actually had a backstage.

He's like, Mr. Texas. He's like, if you're an awesome with Matthew McConaughey, it's like being at Disney Land with Mickey Mouse. He's a really nice and awful stack.

We're going to go to college football. That's a point for you. It's a staple now. Yeah.

So we went as his guest. But they were playing Georgia. I think that's into two over Texas. It's for not.

We're guessing he's in his box. That's the point I do. I have to refer Georgia. I'm not going to go.

Yeah. Right. So I wear a bulldog shirt and a red sweater. I didn't go all out.

Just enough to be annoyed to him. He was on the field. We were never going to be able to make contact. This was a little bit of a point of contention.

Austin's my spiritual headquarters. It's a cool town. It's a really cool town. Let's do my allegiance.

Well, yeah, I mean, you can't flip flop. Yeah, but Amy were his guest. I love Austin. And I wish I had gone.

So yeah, I was reading for Longhorns. Yeah, this was a great friendship. Yeah. Countful.

That's why I was doing that sometimes. It's about marriage to people. I'm acting married to Gail that went to Alabama. And your favorite band, Alabama.

Yeah, I grew up a few Italian families. It was kind of like my first memories of music, my dad, and I don't have a recollection sitting down playing those. The big models just learned where the little marks were. But the needle went out.

So headphones and quarter in cable. The band was just a band for me. They were always kind of gravitated towards it. It was like country, but still cool.

It had some rock and roll, so they were club band. They started in the bars and made it in the Nashville. Got the other thing. One of the big bands around in the early 80s.

And so they were just always kind of like Beatles. Yeah, what a dad, dude. Well, that was an Air Force. My parents met at Lyrne High School dad.

John Air Force right after that. And my mom got married. He got stationed in Germany. And then they came back.

They were about hospitals. I was born in New England, a homesteader for space, which is between Miami and the Keys. He was a weapons mechanic on fighter planes. And as a kid, I was around the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force, the Air Force.

And I was three. My mom kind of moved back to making what her family was from. And my dad stayed in Florida pretty much, because I was 18 or 19 and moved back to Georgia. And now it's about 10 minutes from here.

So my mom and dad also got the Force at three. I'm two years older than you. So I think we got all the same references. 50, 50, 50, yeah, 50, 50, man.

That's a big bill. It is. It's not that I never thought I'd see it. If you'd probably do.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't look good for me. Yeah, that's not. Yeah, that's not. You know what I mean?

You're preparing for this. And I don't really know that you can prepare for. I think your mom, you think you know what's it starts. You're like, it's not really like that at all.

It becomes everyday. I mean, you're playing 200 shows a year. So you're on the road 250 days a year and things get a little off the rail. So it's one day never comes when you're doing it.

No. Everybody comes to the show and they're going to hang out. And then you get home and all your friends at home have a senior. They're like, let's go watch Monday Night Football.

So you're out of the game. Let me know what I'm just. Dad was in the Air Force, but he also played guitar himself. He kind of made a basics.

And I was just getting a house. My sister's seven years younger than me. I was kind of how it started. You started kind of like music theory.

I guess you started figuring out at least where to go with those boards and those don't go with those. And then you started figuring out how to put songs together. You find a song like Turn the Page. And then it's a D minor.

So you go, I know the goes with D minor. And you go, oh, once you know where it starts, you can figure it out from there. And that's kind of how I learned about even now if we're learning a new song or something. I'm like, what keys that in?

B flat. I'm like, what the hell's the B flat? It's like, oh, that's how I learned it. I was like, oh, that's how I learned to play B piano.

There's a song I need to learn. I know it's in. So you know, just figured out I can go in a piano bar and sit there and play. But they give me a day or two.

I figured out it was like that. I do want to see you on the building piano bar now though. Yeah. We always self motivated like that across the board or was it kind of just so we music.

Sports was kind of always my thing before baseball, especially. It's not like a number baseball being a huge thing played every year. A lot of times on two or three different teams. I played school ball right ball.

And then you know you have like all start teams that kind of come across a team where like American Legion team once I got to high school. What position? Well, I played first base in high school, but that was not going to play first base in college. Because I had league off and switch it with zero power.

So I was going to have to make the switch when I was going to go to college and play. They want me to play either short second or center field. I already done that in summer leagues. I knew that was going to college as first base.

But I'm going to make a move to short second. Yeah, I always thought that's what I was going to do in some capacity. And the music was kind of a hobby. And I was going to start playing bars at 14 or 15 years old.

I definitely want to get into that because when we interviewed tonight, she too was in bars from very, very young age in northern Canada, which if you think you can get kicking in the sounds. If you want to know that they can rival. I was just in the sketch one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She was going down in the 80s. But I'm curious really quick. I have a lot of friends who's parents got divorced at 8 or 10 or 12. And they pine for them to get back together.

I was three. So I didn't really have that fantasy. But, you know, but they sat down. Yeah, that's a great.

My mom probably a lot of times was trying to make things better for us. But they think I'm on the way. My mom had two boys. I'm supposed to get a man in the mix.

Or just married the wrong reasons, because they're like in love with somebody. Because Charlotte is a single parent. You think that's going to fix the issue and just doesn't. I've said that now.

He's great. They've been together for 15 years or something. And then my dad got remarried to my son. They didn't marry for four years.

I was like, you know, I mean, they got divorced three. And then they're getting back together. I don't remember them being together. I mean, I would be my mom and Georgia.

Then they were here. My son was at the beach with my dad. I ended up moving to Thai school floor, which is right there. They're okay.

When I walked shuttles and stuff. So the beach was a 10 minute drive. Back to the step. Because I noticed I'm there.

One of my most Vietnam vet who had some issues with that addiction stuff. Not really. It's a dick. It's a seven, three or something.

And once they're like, both of them. I was like, this is my solid. And a man who's been war. I know you're about that.

And then what happened in school? I was like, you're fucking idiot. And so in the school, that stuff's very carried over to me. I got school.

I got along with everybody. I changed schools a bunch. I never went to the same school for more than two years. And I wrote until I was in eighth night.

And sports was coming out. They started. Even if I didn't know everybody. Or PE class, I figured I could play sports and all of a sudden.

You got to get into the guys. And that was how it always was for me. So I didn't get into a lot of stuff at school. I was kind of sneaky.

I wanted to do stuff and not get in trouble. Not get comfortable. Yeah. I was really good at that.

I moved to Thai as well. I got to start over a bunch. I showed up at one junior house. I had to meet new people like that and bouncing around.

My kids have friends. They went to kindergarten with. They've been friends since they were little kids. I didn't really have that.

You're bouncing around so much. You just kind of learned to be a little bit of a million. And figured out as you go, I went to one time, dressed like Zach Morris. I was like, from Florida, blonde in my hair.

Couldn't be further from me. Couldn't be further from you now. But if you had grown up like that, maybe that would have been you. That's like a new younger.

You're trying to figure it out. You're trying to figure out who you are. You're trying to figure out who you are. You're trying to get the most amount of girls.

Yeah. I was just talking to people and just meeting people and being comfortable in a uncomfortable situation. So I think that it taught me a lot about how to deal with those things. We've got a bunch of musicians.

And I do find that musicians tend to have this kind of weird split personality. Like I said, like I say, the amoverts, which is you have some extra version because you want to be on stage. But learning music and getting good music is such a solitary, isolated introverts kind of pursuit. I mean, I did that.

I did that. I didn't see my dad bought me a guitar in my own room with my tape. I wanted to play out and play it and stop it back it up. Did you have a four track?

No. I just had like a dual cassette deck. My buddy, it was my band. He had a four track.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think about like music books.

I mean, I have the chords mapped out. And so I'm just there and figured out, played it. You're right. You're sitting in a room.

A lot trying to get decent at it before you ever join a band and you interact with other players. And I think there's a lot of that for me. I don't think there's a more start transition on point or thing going from a stage to a hotel room for me. I've had friends before that never seen a show in the early days.

And guys have been friends with them. They finally come out there. What just happened? That is not you off stage.

For me, it's just there to put on a show. I love that two hours. I can put on my suit and tie. Good work.

I can switch off and I go back to being a kid's run around backstage. But I'm not transitioning into the hotel room. I don't understand the bus. Probably 99% of the time.

And that helps. It's just my other house. So my kids are out there and I'm going to wipe out there. We are five feet from mine.

You don't have time to wait on the bed. I'm actually waiting for you to go out with that on there. That was so cool. But occasionally I'm driving down there in someones will speed up.

And I think they're going to see shooter or somebody. I think you think that's something. The ghost of a man right in the bus. It's funny.

Somebody played a show for not too long ago. And one really knows what the bus is. And they had it at their house. It was like a lake house.

They had it set out there. And it was basically like an Airbnb. You could come rent it out and sleep there. You have the properties on the lake.

Is it wreaking there like weed? I told the guys, I think I was in this bus. I feel like 97. I haven't been able to smell in ten years.

I don't know. No, it's just like nasal polish. You're supposed to be having surgery on this. But how about that?

Are you afraid of a factor of a voice? I don't know. It's a different hand-to-face. And they're like, you have to have the worst flu for two weeks.

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe go see Pap during the recovery. That thing seems to be like, I think when it just goes right here.

The strap, the wakes up, I actually try it. It woke up and it's like, it's a learning curve. Much other best friends on. I constantly see him in different states.

It's a bit old. It's like a fire pile, it goes to sleep. It's a question. I'm so, since you do go on stage, you become a different person.

Do you feel like when you're out in the world, you're out of restaurant or something and people come up to you, you have to go into that. Do you feel the pressure to be something for people? Yeah, how big is the gap between Jason and the man and Jason the performer? It depends on what situation there's times where I know what I'm getting into when I go somewhere.

You know that you're going to deal with it. Then there's also times where I feel like something gets a little inappropriate. Like if I'm there with my family and technically it's all done. But it's hard because you don't want to see my great full asshole.

It's not bad. It's not bad for everything. It's just like at some point as an entertainer, you've got to shut that off and give your family your own attention because they don't really get it a lot in situational. If I know that I'm getting into it, you're not going to be very familiar with it.

I see it being harder as a country star though because I feel like people do expect to type of a person in a rock. Yeah, probably. People say they're not a rapper or something like that. Yeah.

They think they will fairly like fuck my bros here on it. I know it's only one I have. It's only what they associate you with. It's like you're saying that on your side.

You're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like. I'm like, I'm like, you're like, you're like, you're like, this is what I'm going to do. My mom, it used to go play Bingo. If one of them hit it at Bingo, they get a little extra catch up to big deal.

So there was a little lounge there that had the end, so they talked about it. I'll be coming up. So I went up and did a couple of songs, and Tracy Lawrence are done in her since I was something. And I just remember the time going, man, I was just trying to play guitar and sing the same stuff.

Remember the words, remember the chords, remember where the solos were, where you were better singer or guitar player at that point? Probably neither. You could only play that. And I did that off and on, I remember singing a little bit like karaoke tapes.

I started getting this house gig. I was one of these house contests in our local bar and making one of the clubs just to take. You know, it can be a featured artist, playing our house band on weekends and play four, five songs to sit. And so 14, 15 years old, I started doing that.

Did you mind if any fear about you going and spending four hours on the weekends in a bar? Not really because they had to be with me in the beginning. My mom would go to work. I'd go school and then I'd have to play small practice.

I'd get home, she could dinner, go to the bar, and she'd sit there at the bar, and then we'd talk in the morning in the moment. We'd do that two, three, nine, two, three, nine, so we could get a bar, I guess. Let's start. It's called Nashville South, it was a country bar.

Call for me when you sing fights. I mean, you're usually good for a couple of weekends. There's stuff happening with women, you're singing. That's kind of new.

You know, you love me? Are you feeling overwhelmed by both of these intents? You know what? I'm going to first start to sing.

It's awesome. You know what? You know what? You know how to navigate it.

You know how to break straight out after a while. They were just a nine when she was talking about it as a recall. But was interesting. She's a young girl, and she's seeing adults enter in one state of mind and it's an order of Canada.

And then if you're always like, I'm completely different. And they're acting pretty different to her. So I imagine it's probably less scary when you're a dude in that situation. But also I went to work at 15 at the race team in Detroit.

And these guys were making jokes about black man stuff. I was like, oh my God. I just dropped into the railway. I just dropped into the railway.

I was like, oh my God. I got into it. Yeah, I think it can distort your version of normal. That's what's happening.

I guess this is normal. That's what happens in a bar. That's what I was like chasing going to be a country singer. I was like, oh, nerdy.

That's where the sports kind of. I would just sit outside my guitar. I'm telling you I'm going to play on my friends. I'm going to be talking about talking about talking about you.

I think he's going to be going to be going to be going to the next. I did that. I did that. I did that.

These guys, they fired the whole house man at the small house play. They brought in another band. And it was about young guys. I was probably 18 or 19 at the time.

So I met these guys up. So first time I went around with them, musicians that were my age. And so we started playing. And that's kind of where I started really figuring it out.

And let me be able to be able to be able to talk. I learned to play with the band and be in the front man of a band to play in our sets. And so we want to play in the top. Justin Weaver got it to the band.

He lives here in National Mount in front of us forever. He and I would write a few things. I'm the most part. It was people on here.

He played in the top 40 country songs at the bar. They want to hear, they want to hear, they want to hear. They're going to make those things. That was where I started really having fun.

We started traveling with that band. And we were all the same age. Now you're having the community that you go to have a sports team with peers. And this was my first band where I felt like it was my dream.

And my dad managed this at the time. He would go out and make sure we got paid. He just loved to rip you off. It was a cool deal.

I got to spend a lot of time on that. I was like, this is the floor. I just moved to Georgia. I graduated.

I was like, yeah, I think a lot of things. It's probably been a little up and down over the years. He was a great and super great. Granddad and my kids.

And he probably loved me. I was like, wow, they loved me. They're not great in my shape of both parents. So then you move in National 21.

You get signed and dropped quickly a couple of times. And then you end up with broken bow records in 2000. And then I think it's like, this is where you and I have almost identical journeys. So I moved to LA.

And I'm in LA trying for eight years. And at some point when did we quit. And then pretty much, that's what it took for me. So for me, in eight years, yeah, I had a blast.

My life was where I had a good time. I was broke. I was drunk. But you don't know any different.

That's the only thing I've ever thought was really hard on me was my friends and peers were working. And the people I performed with like the groundings, they're all in commercials and they have apartments. Just watching people around me for eight years, succeed or have agents, and that was a fucking brutal. I'd already been an addict, but definitely supercharged that.

Because I was just scared. You're kind of like a boy wanted to be working at a bar of 15. And then I have your own band at 18. But were those eight years like, I moved in Nashville.

I felt like I'm not kind of building this thing down in Georgia, Florida. We were selling out big bars down in Georgia, Florida. And I'm making name for ourselves. And then all of a sudden, I get to call the big leagues to come up here and write songs for one another.

So that's kind of how I got my foot in the door. So I think I'm going to show up. Just going to pick up where we left off. And it was just not even close.

And I realized that the live part of everything was what I had been working on that I had down. But what I didn't have was being in the studio on tape and being a better singer in the studio. And really when you're in the studio, you start hearing all your flaws and all the things that you don't really hear a lot. We started working on that part of it a lot.

But yeah, you're not just getting better at that stuff. And that seven years of being in town is going, oh, we want to sign you on the outside of the Capitol record for a year. And they kept going, oh, we're not going to go on a cut four sides. And then couple weeks out they go out.

I don't think we got the songs. And they would cancel it. I did that for a year and a half. And then you're in that situation and you're new.

Are they telling you what songs they want you to sing? Or are they saying, hey, here's some great writers. We know meet with them. How's that work?

They're bringing in songs. You're trying to find songs. And then you collectively kind of sit down and go, man, we think this is the best. And that was always a thing for me.

I feel like that happened a little bit earlier in my career. It just happened to go well. Especially when it comes to that. If I want to fail, I don't want to put the blame on anybody else.

If I were your ideas, I could at least accept that. So at this point, I mean, you can make it record and stuff now. We go make the album and we're done. Here's your record and here's the thing that goes in the constant turbine.

I like this song. Well, this is my favorite song. Everybody's got opinion. I'm like, I just don't want to hear all that noise.

You are now, but I'll say, it's a lot of get there. This is like a basic question, but I don't really understand. We used to be out with someone who's written a song. They're songwriting me with them.

They may play you with them. Maybe they're going to get a singer or they may be saying it. Great. So now when you hear that and let's say you respond to it.

You're like, there's something there. Whether it's the folk I like or it's this piece of it. How do you put your finger for a night and then are you looking for a way that's like, a great suggestion? Now, how do I make it mine?

I think that's kind of the easy part. To me, it's fine. It's all, it says something the way that I would say it, it. A lot of the time she kind of weirds us away from that.

But it's something I feel like, man, that's my kind of song. It's a simple just not man, because everything in the studio. So we go in and we've done it enough now to have the system down. So we find the key that's in and not letting things are saying.

We'll kind of dial in a little bit. But for whatever reason, you get all this in a room and you start recording and it just comes out the way it does. It's not a magic button that happens. It's just that's the way everybody plays.

It's the way I sing. And that's the way we hear it come out. And you're a producer even all these with my locks. When does he come in the picture?

You see how great that magic that you get in there and it always comes off this way. Yes. I was a club at Atlanta called the buckboard. It was up in Cape County somewhere there.

Right next to Shrek Club. It was awesome. And then you had one shot shot. Yes.

I mean, still out of the bar. But they had house band there. And sometimes the house band would have bigger shows like around town. They play festival or something that's going on.

And so the guy John, Gile who owned it would call me like, hey, can you guys fill in from my band. So it kind of started like that. He would be like a showcase where he bring people into Nashville and kind of showcase the best bands in the area to try and help them get a deal. At the end of the day, he probably got a little kick back off of that.

And we were all taken like five of the buck to get into this thing. So my doctor was there to play in a couple songs. We've written that night. And that kind of started that journey.

He flew down to see me play some shows in Florida and then brought me to Nashville with studio cut a couple songs. Okay. I'm back to the step. I think it's like a strange new enters the picture.

You show promise to him. But you guys got to start working together. And you have to be receptive. I mentioned to what he brings to the table, whatever his genius is.

And it's that hard for you are easy. It was just new to me. I don't know this guy, but he's interesting what I'm doing. Maybe this is an opportunity for your business.

I'm just using a breaking something to give you a shot. Yeah. I was like, my mentor, my guy that taught me a ton about the studio and how I capture all that stuff. And he's the guy that goes home and obsesses with all this stuff and making sure levels are right.

And this guitar cuts through like it's supposed to be that guy. Did he have an approach that he think worked particularly well with you? He's like a big brother. He's from making toward the actual downtown.

And just happened to be at the vice president of Orange Apple here. He was a 50 singer with Buddy Holly and those guys. So he's just kind of been around it. Back in one and five musicians was anybody.

Yes. He was back to the message. Yeah. He was in the business.

He was a VP of a major company in town. And for whatever reason, the guy took me under his wing and wanted to help me. Even when I would get record deals and lose them and those kind of things. How are you saying in a resilient in that period?

I think it's definitely losing confidence. You know, you come in a town with a million coffins. You realize that there's a lot of people here that are a lot better singers than you. And we're going home than you have.

And you're saying you're watching your friends get deals and going to have success. And you're just like, shit, that gets not going to happen for us. And maybe I'm going to end up working a Pepsi again and you don't know. And having somebody like him to be by your song go like, give me gift cards to be able to be dinner.

Apple beer, Apple beer, Apple beer, whatever. And not for him, I probably went into the back of Georgia and reevaluating my life. You might be me right now. Probably.

If you dare. Okay. So 2005 Jason, I'll the engineer for something comes out and a hit town is first out. And then why is your first number one hit?

So how do we adjust to eight years of desert dwelling to like pretty radical success right all the gates? Well, we finally got a chance to have hits. So hit time came out. He was a top 10 hit force on the charts for what seemed like a year.

I was on nothing hits man. We're selling our clubs again. We started doing stuff. I was doing that in Georgia Florida.

But now we got major hits on radio and we had a day and last. I was always that person like, man, that's great. We got a top 10 to tell. But what's next?

We got a tour of that for about a year than what? You got a stack of them and then walking out. And it was another one. And then everyone was going to have a top five.

And so I was in the second. So do you have a hard time believing that it's happening? Yeah. I was always like, this is so good to be true.

I don't want this in. And I'm not even enjoying the success. But I'm worried about it ending. Exactly.

And that was probably something I still do actually. Yeah. Even the sports. I remember having about 15,000 square or 1500 square.

Sorry. You remember too long. Yeah. This is like house up at ball.

I was hoping my record deal would do well. I don't have any money yet. I was just making this money to pay off this house. We put $500.

All my problems will go away. Yeah. Yeah. I was never in a situation where you were financially stable.

Even though it's not everything. It helps my oldest daughter's born up 25 by the time I had three year old at home and wasn't making any money. So yeah. Yeah.

This is working. I'm not here on the road. I'm not making any money. I'm not here to get into that.

And you're like, this is too good to be true. I don't know. I don't know what this is going to end. But surely this can't keep going on the way it is in the turnaround in your 20 years into it.

Still waiting on something bad to happen. Yeah. Well, you have eight years of getting your ass kicked. You get pretty used to that.

That's how it is. And more than that, you also grew up in the room. The road party haven't played so. It's not making any money.

It's kind of hard to validate that. Well, now here's where losing drugs works. So I can't really enjoy it. So it's going to go away.

But when I was fucked up, I could. Yeah. That's what gave me his optimism. I never went down that path.

Well, you think you're not just fucked up now? I was drinking though, man. I'm probably drinking off to float it in. It's fine.

It's just fun hobby. It is. You start getting up in that lifestyle. And then probably four down really do it for you anymore.

You just kind of help in the 80. The drugs haven't never something I really got into. But still love to know about anything. I just got way better grip on it.

I'm not. What's the. Yeah. How about this?

The people I was obsessed with growing up was like Charles Bckowski, Wailin, all guys who their art was so significant. They were allowed to behave like fucking animals and everyone forgave it. Yeah, but I think that's it. Whether people want to believe it or not, sometimes those things kind of create genius comes out of put your head in a different place.

There's a reason that rock stars. So the best song ever written for kind of like place of pain or despair. Or you try to cover up something. Something where I was talking about.

Something about cheating. And it was probably coming from place that was very legit. Yeah. So how do you take to the road?

It sounds like well, but your life starting in 0-5. You've just been touring almost without exception. How many shows have you played since 2005? I don't know.

First few years are doing 200 for us. We kind of backed it down to 150 and stay there for a while. Then 125 and 175. Now we're probably about 55.

This is kind of where we live right now. And it's great. It's time to hang out my family for five or six months. And it's time with them.

And then the road and go work for five or six months. Is it the same with us? Like when they were little, there's no problem. You took them everywhere we were working.

And then they get to make sure you really can't do that. And then you have to really figure out like, what do we really want to work for us at school? Because you have an annual boy. You're going to be eight and a seven.

And then older children. Twenty two and seventeen girls. I would imagine you have to kind of learn how to tour. So that it's tangible that you can continue to do it.

So like what things did you start figuring out along the way? When I first started it was 10 of us on a bus. No name, I'm a two man, I'm a two man, I'm a merch guy. Yeah.

We're rolling out again, not making money. So I'm trying to save money. Cram us all of us. And if I got to a point where I started doing well and I got my own bus, no, I've got my wife up long after that.

And so we started having our kids two weeks after they were born. They were getting thrown on the bus. And they just have their bands for their toys. And they're all in the past.

And they're all in the counter walk around backstage. Everybody around there wants them to help in their work. And so that's the thing. So I got a great crew out there that kind of helps watch them.

And we kind of down it in over the years. But like we first got out there with me and all the guys. No family, no kids. No, any of that we're playing shows being gone for a couple months of time.

And the dynamics change now. Do you get depressed when you're at home? And she's agreeing for me for about two months. I'm going to take a little time because it also gives me a chance to go.

And we're going to see the old little bit or not to create that in the end when you're on the road. So I like a little bit of time home. I'm going to do that so much. You need to purpose back.

I have a tricky question, but I have to ask that I wonder. You have the older kids and younger kids. Do you ever think about the fact that those two sets have had such different experiences? Absolutely.

My older girls, you know, they were little when things were taken off. As they were growing up, my career was going with it. And then the little one says they've been born. Everything was already established.