Jason Fried on the Power of Freedom in Entrepreneurship with Ramon Ray

In this episode of The Rundown with Ramon, small business expert Ramon Ray sits down with Jason Fried, co-founder and CEO of 37signals—the company behind Basecamp and HEY. Known for his unconventional and thoughtful approach to business, Jason opens up about how he builds products, manages teams, avoids hustle culture, and leads with calm confidence. He shares insights on equal pay across geographies, the value of remote work, fixed-time product development, and why independence is the cornerstone of his company’s success. This is a must-listen conversation for founders, leaders, and entrepreneurs who want to build profitable businesses without burning out.