Jason Kao of Fog Security

Recorded live at fwd:cloudsec 2025, this episode of Modern Cyber features a conversation between Jeremy and Jason Kao, founder of FoxSecurity. Drawing from his experience across enterprises, startups, and cloud security consulting, Jason unpacks the growing complexity of IAM in the cloud—focusing on the “duplicitous” nature of AWS permissions and the challenges in enforcing effective data perimeters.The two explore the shift from traditional network boundaries to identity-based security models, and Jason shares practical takeaways for organizations looking to improve IAM strategy in the face of sprawling permissions and conflicting access controls.Guest Bio – Jason Kao:Jason Kao is the founder of FoxSecurity, a new company focused on solving data perimeter and cloud ransomware challenges. His career spans engineering roles at Cisco and Fidelity Investments, offensive security consulting at Praetorian, security research at CloudQuery, and now startup leadership. Jason is a regular speaker at security conferences like fwd:cloudsec, where he shares deep research and practical insights into complex topics like IAM, cloud architecture, and data protection.Fog Security - https://www.fogsecurity.io/