Jason Walls: Newstalk ZB Political Editor on Chris Hipkins bringing more political fire into second leaders' debate

Labour's Chris Hipkins brought some unexpected political fire into Wednesday's second leaders' debate, to the surprise of experts and viewers. Hipkins seemed confident in his performance on the night, giving himself a rating of nine, while Luxon rated himself a seven. ZB Political Editor Jason Walls says Hipkins' debate performance was surprising, following a 'lackluster' and 'lifeless' start to Labour's campaign. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.