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EPISODE · Aug 22, 2026 · 39 MIN

Jeff Bezos Told Him What to Study in 2019. Here's What Happened Next | Jon Wolheim

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What if the biggest limitation of AI isn't technology, but the people trying to use it?In this episode of The James Ibezim Podcast, I sit down with Jon Wolheim, a talent and AI executive who spent two decades building teams at Apple and Amazon before moving into the world of AI startups.Jon helped build the talent function that took SoundHound AI public and later became the founding HR executive at a Cambridge AI unicorn now valued at more than $10 billion.But one conversation helped change the direction of his own career.In 2019, Jon interviewed Jeff Bezos and asked what a college freshman should study. Bezos told him: machine learning. That conversation eventually pushed Jon deeper into the AI world, where he now helps executives become fluent in AI without needing to become programmers through Wolheim Group and AIfluent.Dad.In this conversation, we explore the human side of the AI revolution.Why might people, rather than compute or capital, become the biggest constraint on AI adoption? What separates exceptional teams from average ones? Should companies prioritize decades of experience or younger talent with greater technical fluency? And can a 55-year-old executive who learns to use AI effectively actually have an advantage over someone who grew up with the technology?We also discuss shadow AI, AI-native organizations, hiring, leadership, company culture, the future of work, and what companies are getting wrong about artificial intelligence.And if you were 23 years old and starting your career today, what would you do differently?This isn't just a conversation about AI. It's a conversation about the people who will determine what AI becomes.Connect with John Wolheim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwolheimListen to the full conversation on The James Ibezim Podcast and explore what it really takes to build people, teams, and organizations for the AI era.

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