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EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 58 MIN

Jenny Chan: The Pacific WW2 Historian

from Dictators v Democrats: Why We Fight · host TA Mullis

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Dictators v Democrats: Why We Fight, We speak with Jenny Chan, historian and co-founder of Pacific Atrocities Education, about the overlooked history of the Asia–Pacific theatre of the Second World War and its impact on today’s geopolitics.Jenny explains how her grandmother’s experience under Japanese occupation shaped her interest in history, and why much of the Pacific War remains absent from Western education. She discusses the thirty million deaths across Asia, the fall of Hong Kong on “Black Christmas”, and the strategic decisions that allowed many Japanese wartime figures to avoid justice after 1945.The conversation also explores how authoritarian fanaticism emerges, how democracies sometimes compromise on their values, and why honest historical memory is vital for defending free societies today.Topics Covered• Family history and personal motivation Jenny’s grandmother, wartime Hong Kong, and the loss of the family’s fortune during the occupation.• Why the Pacific War is forgotten Western-centric teaching, focus on Hitler, and a lack of coverage of the Asian continent’s devastation.• Unit 731 and wartime atrocities Biological experimentation, comfort women, and how key perpetrators avoided prosecution.• Post-war geopolitical choices Cold War alliances, immunity deals, and the rehabilitation of wartime elites and corporations.• Fanaticism and failed civilian control Military dominance in pre-war Japan and the collapse of moderate voices.• How democracies respond to brutality Operation Paperclip, moral compromises, and long-term consequences.• Historical memory and revisionism The dangers of online denialism, extremist nostalgia, and why younger audiences seek deeper history.• Modern Asia–Pacific tensions Japan’s rearmament, China’s military build-up, and rising risks around Taiwan.• Democracy, freedom and peace Jenny’s reflections on why peace is essential to preserving democratic values.Support the show

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Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Dictators v Democrats: Why We Fight, We speak with Jenny Chan, historian and co-founder of Pacific Atrocities Education, about the overlooked history of the Asia–Pacific theatre of the Second World War and its impact on today’s geopolitics. Jenny explains how her grandmother’s experience under Japanese occupation shaped her interest in history, and why much of the Pacific War remains absent from Western education. She discusses the thirty million deaths acr...

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