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It is. You can't have Redford month without Jeremiah Johnson, which I did not invent the mountain man movie, but I think still isn't the running for the best one. Redford said it was his favorite of all of his movies. Yeah.
Do you think that's because of his affection for the landscape that it's set in? I mean, it's essentially shot in his adopted backyard. Right. It's filmed in Utah.
He looks great. He gets to grow all this different facial hair. He gets to kill some, some Native Americans who are coming after him and he's complicated situation. It's, you know, he's just a pilgrim trying to make it work and piss some people off.
And dad, ever since I was a kid, this movie was on, you would have this on all the time to the point we would make fun of you. Really again, Jeremiah Johnson? What is it? What was it about this movie?
Well, it came out in 1972. You were three years old and I read an article, I read that it was coming out and then I read an article about John liver reading Johnson. Yeah. About whom the film is loosely based, I guess.
And it got sounds like such a character. And of course, they exaggerated how many crow he killed when article said 300 right in the 10 years and that. So I was so excited to see the movie. And I remember going by myself.
You were too young to go at that point. Yeah. And walking out of that. And then probably five other people in the theater because initially, initially, it wasn't, well, we see, you know, that kind of a movie at that point in time.
And I remember walking out of the theater saying, I'm going to see this movie many times during my lifetime. It was on all the time. Yeah. It just felt like it was on for it was another one that was not even on like TNT more like whatever your local, what were your local Philly stations?
We had channel 38, yeah, channel 11 or whatever. Yeah, it was just on. It was just being on it would be an two and a half hour black with commercials. What do you, what do you think, Dr.
Bill, what draws you back to this movie over and over again? Is it the, I mean, this is about as close to a national park as you can get without leaving your house? Yeah. You know, it's partly Redford, obviously.
It's also partly Redford's love for nature and, you know, he searched for peace and nature and then he established Sundance and I mean, it's not surprised it was his favorite movie. It just seemed to ring up, ring all the bells for him in terms of his life, how he led his life. I just like, I love the outdoor scenery. You don't see that in another movie.
We'll talk about a way to I love the voice over. I love the music. The whole package just clicked with me. There's something very old fashioned about the way it's made.
It feels like a 50s or 60s epic from Hollywood, but it has a 1970s sensibility. Yeah. And I watched it one time all the way through getting ready for this pod. And I was like, yeah, that's about as good as I remember.
It's pretty cool. And we're going to talk about the vengeance turn. It makes late in the film. But then it's like the last couple of days, I've been like, you know what?
I kind of watch just want to watch him riding his horse through the mountains a couple of times. Yeah. And I would just throw it on and skip to a visitor that I wanted to see and then just let the movie play from there. And it really is quite gorgeous and really relaxing to watch some of like just that absolute gorgeous, gorgeous scenery and terrain that they filmed this in.
Yeah. It's going to be a tough, great shot, gordo category for us. It reminds me, and I should say the movie I'm about to mention reminds me of Jeremiah Johnson, but cast away, when cast away, he started making its run. And it has that hour long stretch with Hanks on the Island and there's no music.
Yeah. It's just kind of peaceful to have on. You can hear the ocean. He's by himself.
There's not a lot of dialogue. There's drama and intensity, but not really. It's OK. And this movie for long stretches, you're just like hanging out with it.
There's a, this is a little bit of a blank spot for me with, and I think for Hollywood as well, it's not an era that they made ton of movies about. That like 1840s after the Mexican war, Mountain Men real, real first for tears, men kind of thing. Like, you know, I think like Disney did the David Crockett movies. I think those are kind of like set around this time and it's about him going to Texas and stuff, but this is not an era that I know what it's about, but the survivalist, Mountain Man genre, to the extent that there is one.
And even just man versus nature is a very, very reliable subgenre. Well, dad, we, I don't know how many Westerns we watched, but it just felt like the 70s were all Cowboys versus Indians movies that had been made for 30 straight years, right? And then Clint, who is, I think Clint's your favorite actor of all time, right? See number one?
Yeah, he's number one. Yeah. So we would watch all of those, but this was, this had a distinct, mountain man kind of movie. This kind of grabbed the corner of it, I think the best.
But I agree that, that, that era was not an era I knew very much about. I mean, 1815 to 1840 or 45 before the Civil War, there weren't a lot of movies made about that period of time. Yeah. And certainly not about Mountain Men.
And the film does a nice segue eventually for Mountain Men to settle it. Yeah. And then you started to see some movie about settlers and, you know, how the world is one kind of stuff. Yeah.
Yeah. Dr. Bill, I wanted to ask you, you know, I was going to save this for the, what's the most 1972 part of this movie? But when you saw this in the 70s in the theater, did you feel like it was subtly commentating on people coming back from Vietnam being disillusioned?
Because a lot of these 70s, Westerns like McCabe and Mrs. Miller and this, some of the Clint stuff, like proxy stuff. Yeah. They're like, it's about people who are disillusioned with what they thought they were told about the country or what they thought they knew about being a soldier and now they've come back and they're trying to make sense of their lives.
Like, did you feel like it had some contemporary parallels? I definitely did. I mean, almost throughout most of the movie, he's still wearing his uniform, but the uniform pants that must have eventually smelled pretty bad. They never came off.
Yeah. And he was escaping civilization. He was, you know, somebody asked him a question about is there a war going on or and he just wanted to get away from it all. I mean, whatever happened in the Mexican war and whatever his part was in it, they didn't talk about it.
You just knew that he had a bad experience and he had to get away and he left civilization to do that. Well, I mean, that was one of the unanswerable questions is was he a deserter. Yeah. Because he asked at the end, he's the Mexican war comes up and he asked like, did we like who won?
Yeah, who won? So he got out of there before then. There's a theory on the internet. Granted, the internet isn't bad in a thousand.
Is there an art slash conspiracy Jeremiah Johnson for? He was the deserter, it was his fault. Did we win the one? I don't even know when the Mexican war.
Well, I mean, I think it was probably a draw. We won quote unquote, but there's a lot of treaties and negotiations. Yeah. So I do feel like it's funny because dances with wolves, which I really like dances with wolves, but it's funny how much it cribs from this movie.
Sure. Yeah. Especially like the disillusioned soldier that kind of fits in and then just on his own. Yeah.
And finds that kind of balance in his life when he comes into contact with an indigenous culture and like, okay, this is there's like a sense of, there's a sense of symmetry or calmness or spiritual fulfillment here that I wasn't getting in the kind of grind people up spit them out American culture. The three of us would have been done immediately because bad eyesight. I have just done. I have this in my.
We're done. There's no contact lens solution in the wilderness. But this is a much more picturesque version of it than the Revidant. Yeah, that's another one.
Yeah. So the mountain man era, Jeremiah Johnson, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, a man called horse with Richard Harris. Oh, yeah.
Big man with Hoffman. Once upon a time in the West with fondant and Charles Bronson and then pick, I don't know how many Easter movies, but and then you would see, like dances was brought it back, the revenue bought it back. People, people would go back, even last little he can sort of. Yeah.
That's like a predates all of this stuff. That's still 18th century, right? But it's still a dude outdoors who really knows how to do shit. Yes.
And there's some bad guys in his world and then he's got to navigate. Yeah. And usually they come into cut. They have like a love that then like corrupts love that gets sacrificed to like the modern incoming world.
Dad, it's like the boxing movie and the mountain man movie or the two, the two Vandy actor projects where they're like, yeah, I live in the mountains. I get to make a log cabin. I'll grow up beard. Like those are the two, right?
You would have been an actor. You would have been an mountain guy. I don't see. No, I would not have been in the ring.
And I was a boy scout and an Eagle Scout remember. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I could live in the outdoors. So what is it about the mountain man movie? What what what you love the piece of it, the serenity, the fact that our guy has to just rely on his natural wits to make it like what is it? That's part of it.
But I thought there were some intriguing characters in the movie. Yeah. That you don't see in many other movies. Each character bringing something different to Jeremiah Johnson's life.
And we'll talk about those characters, but I thought they all know it blended well for me from beginning to end. I'm guessing boy wasn't one of the characters. Caleb, I will call you Caleb. He's like, okay, I don't speak.
Yeah. Caleb was one of those characters though. Who knows what Caleb saw. And if anyone of us had been in that position, maybe we would have lost our voice to communicate.
Oh, you know, you know, a fan of a lot there like there's not a lot to talk about, you know? I mean, Caleb was like me and my dad after game seven against the key in 2023. That's like boy, we must leave. I will call you Caleb.
We take a miss her. The Sydney Pollock Directs this movie. This is seven Pollock Redford movies, collaborations that they did. This one puts Pollock on the map though.
I mean, I know he had done They Don't Shoot Horses Don't They're Like, but this from this moment on, he just rips off. He does the way we were. Are you a Yakuza guy? Yeah, I mean, of course you are.
Three Days of the Condor, Bobby Deerfield, Electric Horseman, Absence, and Balance, Tootsie. And then they win all the Oscars for Out of Africa. He has a run of course leading to his incredible performance and eyes wide shot. And one of the great performances of all time.
He partnered with his incredible performance and Michael Clayton as well. He's a really good character actor as well. He's the safest, one of the safest pairs of hands you could put a movie in after 1965, you know, whenever he starts. And he just is expert at getting great performances out of people.
He's got a good eye and he knows how to cut a movie and keep it going. But yeah, he's the kind of director that I do not feel like we have anymore really. Yeah, somebody that could do Jeremiah Johnson in three days of the Condor movie for years. Maybe James Mangold is kind of like that.
He could do a superhero movie. He could do a Bob Dylan movie. He can do a race car movie and a Western, you know, but it's it's their their few and far between now. He also directed the firm, but really good at laying stuff out in a peaceful, awesome way, but then also suspense and action and chase and, you know, bad on those.
I just watched three days of the Condor recently, just got it for Reverend Bunge. He better be. It's just an elite movie. I just watched that also.
Really good. The interesting thing that happens in this movie, because you guys both love Westerns. I love Westerns and we both well, the three of us all overvenge movies. Usually, Don Wick, a Clint East movie, what Charles Bronson movie, the inciting event that brings on the revenge happens in the first like half hour of the movie.
Yeah, here it happens in the last half hour of the movie. Right. And it really kind of makes this a very odd, unconventional film to watch, because if you know it, if you're watching it for the third, fourth time, you're like, and then the last half hour is super dark and intense. But if you're watching it for the first time, you're just like, Oh, cool.
This guy falls in love. This is great. He's been here for an hour or 40 minutes. Three of them.
Nothing can go wrong. And then you know, as soon as the cavalry shows up, you're like, Oh, God, guys, don't go through the graveyard. Don't go through the burial ground. And it really makes a turn in the last 30 or 40 minutes.
Craig, can you give away any takes without giving away your take? Did you when you watch the first hour and a half, we were just thinking you were hanging out in the mountains with Robert Redford? Yeah, I was devastated when they killed the wife and kid. But I do think it's like, I wish the movie had an extra half hour, because it made that murder hit much harder than what happened at the beginning of January.
You really developed a relationship and felt so comfortable. So it was one of the bigger blindsides I can remember in a movie, honestly. Yeah. All right.
Save the rest of your takes. Yeah, it is two different movies. I'm still missing Swan. Swan.
Swan was really it was all coming together. Yeah. You know, you get given away by your dad, because he owes somebody a gift. And it's usually not going to work out well.
And she he shaved his beard for her. Yeah, he was probably getting used to her cooking. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know about the cooking part. Yeah. So the other thing about this movie that we have to mention, it now lives on for a completely different way. It became I don't even know if you know this that, but on social media, the there's a gift where the camera zooms in on Redford and he's nodding.
And it just became this omnipresent social media thing. Like if you agree with somebody's point, or if you really like a trade or you like some you would just post a Redford meme. And now there's like two generations of people who have no idea what to do with this movie. They just know that he has a cool beard and he's just nodding knowingly.
Then there's a Nicholson one that's like a cousin of this. Yeah, that's the that's another nodding one. I think that's from is that from the shining or? Yeah.
No, it's later. It's from I think it's from a movie. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah.
But those are like the cray goes with the two big nodding means, right? Yeah. So it's just the movie completely jank a question. It's a random movie to be to be harvested like that, though.
Yeah. Well, it was based on the crow killer, the saga of liver eating Johnson, which sounds like my dad did some research on liver eating Johnson. I said, we might have to bring that nickname back for a football player. That's like a 1920s baseball player in nickname, liver eating Johnson, like two finger bakoy, like some linebacker that keeps getting suspended in the NFL.
They just call him liver eating. Yeah. But we've got a lot of publicity because two years after the movie came out in 1974, they moved liver eating Johnson's body. Yeah, different location and Redford has to be one of the Paul Bevers, which is pretty fascinating little tidbit to commit to the bit.
He's really resonated with them. It's one of his favorite characters. Who's your favorite guy? Liver eating Johnson.
So apparently he would cut out the livers of crow Indians. He had killed and eat them. Okay. I don't know if that was an urban legend or not.
They decided not to present that angle for the movie because there's no cities. So it would be more of a rural legend in this case decided not a rural legend. They decided not to pursue that angle for the for the movie. Anyway, written by John Millius and Edward Ann Holt.
Yeah, and then a very fun Hollywood development story where Millius is this very iconic, classic, sort of man's man, surfer, California kid who's coming up with Lucas and Coppola and that group of people. And his original script is really interesting to read. There's a lot more, I would say like it's a little bit more fleshed out, whereas the movie is just a lot more like, you know, travel on kind style. But Millius would write it and then Redford and Pollock would get someone else to rewrite it.
And then they'd be like, got it. Something's missing. Let's get Millius again. So I think Millius made like a lot of money because they had to keep coming back.
Keep rehiring. Yeah. He also wrote a Judge Roy Bean and he wrote Apocalypse Now. And then has a very weird directing IMDB too.
Yes. Right, Don right. Yeah. Conan the Barbarian.
Yeah. Big Wednesday movies that make no no no connection with one another. So Pollock doesn't get nominated for this, but ends up winning for Out of Africa has this whole thing. Which movie commercially, I didn't think it did that well in the beginning.
And then it got a fan base later. Yeah. Having legs. Yeah.
It ended up being the fifth highest movie of 1972. Yeah. $3.1 million budget made $44.7 million sadly no Roger Ebert review. Oh, well, I guess yeah.
72. He's not throwing yet. Yeah. I don't know what.
What do you think you would have given it three three out of four? I can see him being like, this movie's awesome four stars. I think he did three and half or four. He mentioned it.
There's some review he did 20 years later where he mentioned. It seemed like he really liked this movie. Maybe he was talking about it in conjunction with dances or something. Yeah.
Okay. I think you know, Roger is a Pac guy. It's just not a ton of plot. Paul and Kale had her usual.
I like some stuff I didn't like. Well, Johnson. Yeah. What didn't she like?
Do you remember? I don't know. We were mean to her in the last pod. I wanted to cut her some slack.
I don't know if she was the audience for this movie. No longer. You know, you might be watching at some point. All right.
We'll take a break and then we'll do a most rewatchable scene. All right. Let's do most rewatchable scene. Dad, it's brought to you by the Home Depot place.
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My dad is probably the latest get rid of the Christmas tree guy who's ever lived. I think my wife might have to make your dad have a breakfast. Has she gone to May? No, we only go to Easter.
That's four months after Christmas. How late is your wife go? I think we've been to a Super Bowl with the Christmas tree. We get we push it.
That's not Easter. Yeah. Yeah. My dad has the record.
Most rewatchable scene. Hatchet Jack's letter. Yeah. Slainy racist but pretty charming.
Would you put Hatchet Jack in the deon way? His letter being of sound mind and broke legs. Do leave it to my bear rifle to whatever finds it. Lord hope it be a white man.
It is a good rifle and killed the bear that killed me. Anyway, I'm dead. Yours truly Hatchet Jack. What a writer.
Anyway, he must have been happy. He would have been happy that Jeremiah got the rifle. Yeah. Fifty caliber hawking.
And then that rifle becomes his sort of signature when he meets up with Del Key right? Right. Thirty caliber hawking. Seems like okay.
It's fifty caliber. Well the fifty caliber. You guys think that's what you're taking down elk with. Yeah.
Like thirty caliber. I think you can get your rabbits. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Next one. I like when he makes it deal with the Native Americans. Trades them a bear coat for two second round picks and some future considerations.
Some swaps on this. Yours belt establishes the relationship early. Next one. Ball guy Del Keyo.
Yeah. Shaves his hair because he doesn't want them to take his hair. Dad. He's already it's off his head already.
Yeah. But he still ended up in the ground and was lucky that Jeremiah came along. Yeah. He kills some guys and grabs some scalps for not even positive about his reason.
He's like they stole my horses. Yeah. And he's like I'm gonna go back and get them. And Johnson is like I'm not here to get involved.
I'll just help you get into the camp and we can quietly do this and delky gets violent. And it's a recurring theme where Johnson doesn't want. Yeah. I just want to set some picks and grab a couple rebands.
But what they are they didn't just do is they put him in the ground to die. Yeah. Those birds were ready to go after his eyeballs. Yeah.
That's a tough way to go. I was gonna say that. Yeah. Top 10.
Yeah. I'm also very just picking fair skin. You die from like getting from being sunburned and just having the crust with your eyes. He's also going to lose his mind because his mustache keeps itching his nostrils.
Right. I thought he had a classic line when he asked Jeremiah. Mike you have the next rat. Right.
First family meal with the new gang. Yeah. Boy, woman and Jeremiah all together. But I like how they build the family thing within 20 minutes.
That was a full believer. It would have been a fun like YouTube fake commercial for like an 80s sitcom with the Jeremiah family. So that's my this is the Swan montage. I guess it is is of like after that first night and you know it's spring the snow's melted that whole montage of like her showing him how to hunt.
Yeah. Then building that house. I love that house building montage. Oh yeah.
I think that's my most rewatchable sequence. I had that in the next one. The building the house. Yeah.
Love watching them build a log cabin dead. Two thing. Something you neither you and I could probably pull off if we had all the logs. Oh.
We have to hug. We have to hug. Yeah. We have to get the wilderness.
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I do love watching them build the house. Yeah. Because modern the hay is the insulation to like it's so realistic. Yeah.
You're watching. Like oh that's how it's just it could have gone for fiber mitts. I got the wolf attack. Pretty good.
Pretty good for early 70s. Yeah. For action. The crow graveyard.
Yeah. Reluctantly helping the care calorie and the annoying as reverent. Dad how many times have you watched this movie and not wanting him to go through the graveyard? Like you feel like this is it's a hundred and ninety seven time.
But maybe this time he won't go through it. He'll know not to. It's the classic classic movie. No, no, just don't know.
No, no, no. And you know with the reverence staring at him. So he doesn't care at all about Jeremiah. No.
Well, the lieutenant has that great line where he's like you have to hunt like I have to try and help these people. And kind of the way it convinces Jeremiah to do it because he's like these guys are all going to die if I don't walk them through this. Next thing I wrote down was Jeremiah fucks up five crows and passes out. Then the next one right here if that Jeremiah one V one gets multiple crows acids.
Just move those together. I had the I described this as the NCAA tournament of fighting for all years. And then there's a murder montage. Yeah culminating in the playing dead, but he's not really killing the chest.
He's the guy in the eye of reflection. All of a sudden this movie becomes John Wick and it's incredible. Well, that's it. That scene is a little bit if he he looks up into the eye of the horse and he sees the reflection of the guy coming at him.
Yeah, how dare you question Jeremiah Johnson's methods. It's straight from the horse. You know, yeah. I like when he goes to visit Crazy Lady's house and there's a new family there.
And the guy says some say you're dead on a count of this. Some say you never will be on a count of this. Yeah. Which I have some theories on later.
And then the actual ending. I want to talk about the ending that I got to do your thing. It's like what you can do right now. I think it's my favorite watchable part of the movie.
And anytime I watch the movie, if I fast forward, I fast forward to the end. Because I mean, we don't know how long I mean in the article about Live Reading Johnson said 10 years. There's no timeline in terms of how long or my was out there killing crows. Yeah, certainly was a while.
And you wonder if you ever was going to make peace with Chief Paints in his shirt, Red. You got the name, right? Yeah, sure. I love the name.
And in that final scene, he goes to click the rifle thinking that right that we're on it again. Here we go again and this time I'm on it with the chief. Yeah. Best guy wins.
And then when he put his arm up, it was great. It was just a great weight in the movie. But for me, it's the most rewatchable scene. Good refer to with the really like the extra.
Yeah. Yeah. And the classic line. And some folks think he's up there still.
Get some guitar in there. Yeah. I mean, he's also at that point, he's got CTE probably. He's been stabbed with a spear.
He got a spear in the back. Yeah. He's got multiple infections. I think his hands all fucked up.
Yeah, he's got frostbite fingers. I mean, like, it's got to end at some point. I love how the last couple of scenes with the tournament of fighting coincides with his legend growing throughout the region and how it's basically like the Liberty Valance, like print the myth idea, print the legend. Yeah.
And it's like, you can see like there's a song about it. They've started to build this monument to him. The Crow of start telling stories about how this guy is like roaming the mountains. Yeah.
He's revenge. It turns into a folktale almost. It would be funny if he had like the LeBron media machine behind him, where it was like Jeremiah Johnson, unclear if he's coming back. My sources are telling me.
He's right. That's a pro fight Instagram that says he's going zero dark 23 for the next three months. Jeremiah Johnson taking it fight to fight. That's it doesn't know what this is going to do.
Jeremiah Johnson, I've actually been watching the crows. My, my most rewatchable is when he takes down the first group of crows. Oh, in the camp. Yeah, because it's a classic.
Sometimes I'll fuck this up. Like, taken has a version of this in the kitchen, when he's with the Albanians and he goes, Hey, before I go, can you read this for me? And the guy's like, good luck. And then all of a sudden, he shoots like seven guys, but it's in the kitchen.
And anytime you see scenes like that, you're always like, yeah, the sixth guy probably could have gone out in time, right? But these guys, you shoot once back in 18, 40, it takes a five minutes to reload. Well, he does the double rifle to start out. I have a breakdown of this coming later, but I think that's my favorite.
So you have the actual ending. The actual ending. And then you have family mail, with women and boy, how's the only one talking about? The family piece reminded me of outlaw Josie Wales, where suddenly, suddenly he has a family that accompanying him on his journey.
Remember the Indian joins him? Yeah, joins him. Kind of a similar take. I mean, there's lessons from these movies.
And one of many is don't think it's ever going to work out with the guy at the loner who's in the middle of nowhere who finds the instant family. Yeah, I'm just going to assume everyone's going to die. Don't go through the graveyard, just ever. Because another one like, just ever, ever, just take the extra 20 miles to go all the way around horses.
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This is a tough category this time because it's set in the 1840s. I had disillusioned with four. Oh, yeah. Do you have one for this status?
Should I do mine? Yeah, for me, you know, I grew up watching movies like Ben Hur when you went into the big theater and they had the intermission and yeah, but they don't do that anymore. So for me, it was the what they called the overture in the beginning. Yeah, and the music, there was no movement, there's just a pretty scene.
The first time I saw it, I'm thinking, what's going on here? You know, there's no action. There's music. There's a scene.
And then all of a sudden in the middle of the movie, when you get the intermission, which they call the untrapped, which you don't see anymore. Yeah. So for me, that was the most mid seven days kind of scene or kind of a piece of the movie. CCR, this is why we're related.
I had those two things. The 152nd overture to start the movie, which honestly is just weird. Well, it's kind of enjoyable. Why weren't there credits during the overture?
It's because it's basically you get 10 minutes of music getting ready to get to the movie. But I will say that overture really sets the mood. This guy, it actually works. It's just crazy to watch.
I wish there were I wish more movies did that, but I wish they would do it at the expense of like trailers or commercials before film. You know, that makes sense. Like I would be into it if like one battle just had the Johnny Greenwood score for like five minutes before the movie started. Yeah, that would be really cool.
But you know, Kingdom of Heaven had this. I don't remember the last one. In Glorious Basterds, I think the, or not in Glorious Basterds, eight full eight had the overture and then the intermission, but it's pretty rare. Intermission for a movie that's less than two hours is aggressive.
Yes. Although I do like the enforced, like you're going to want to go pay because this is about to get really real. Craig, what did you think when you started watching this movie and for two and a half minutes, nothing happened? It was just a picture.
I was like the Sopranos ending. I was like, my screen broke. It's just some good scrolling time right now. My phone mother's going on.
Yeah, it's weird, but I don't know. It kind of fits the movie. All right. What stage the best?
What do you have? I might have not have approval. I mean, yeah, that's a good point. Certainly like number one.
I like the crazy John Millius dialogue. When people do talk in this movie, I feel like it's pretty memorable. And it's got that that really incredible, you know, dialect of this sort of formal English with this frontiersy abrasiveness. Yeah.
And also, You want to come back? Maybe Amazon Prime for their NBA coverage. They just have everybody in the other guy's name. Bear Club.
Bear Club on Del Guis, who's next to Dirk? Yeah. Dirk, I smelled you for three days. Yeah.
And then there's just a couple of really outside of the knotting meme. There's a couple of really good Redford reactions, especially when Del Guis got him into TP doing like the parlay and he's like, man, this is really going on for a long time. And then he has to put away from there. Yeah.
There you go. What do you have that? Any what stage the best for you? Yeah.
I think for me, you and I have talked to how we typically don't like movies that have voiceovers. But I really thought the voiceovers in this movie and the music was terrific. And both things for me, usually don't like what I really like them in this movie. Yeah.
Another thing that you can tell were related. Yeah. Mostly anti-narrator. It's like proved to me we needed a narrator for this.
But this one actually, I think needed an narrator. It was also like the right kind of voice for an area. Yeah. Very common.
You should sound it like he should be narrating. I have a couple of what stage the best. This is the big one for me. I think, and I think we have to discuss whether this is a new category.
Okay. Seen the scene, one of the great facial hair performances ever in a movie. Unbelievable. He's got five o'clock shadow.
He's got a little more than that. Then at one point, he's got a beard. We're almost looks like it's on his cheeks. It's completely wild.
Then he shaved. Then it's back. And they said they filmed this forever. Like it's filmed for like six, seven months.
And the way they use his facial hair, it really feels that way where it's like he shaved his wife's dead and a wife, a boy or dead. And then when he goes to get the crows, he's got like the right amount of facial hair where it's like, oh, it's been probably a week. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't agree with me. I know I was just laughing. You like to call him boy.
I want you to start calling Ben boy. Hello, boy. Let's start doing that. But I was thinking, is that a new category potentially most inspired facial hair or facial hair?
I think we're a boy. It would definitely work. Yeah. Jeremiah Johnson, facial hair has actually become a character.
Yeah. Achievement in facial hair. Yeah. Craig, well, you're just jealous of the beards.
I mean, like, of course, I can't grow up here to save my life. You're just watching like God, what a I was like, this is why Redford took the movies. Like, oh, I can try out all my different beards. I have a short beard beard.
It changes the shape of his face. I think a lot of people that meme people didn't know that was Robert Redford for a while because it's kind of a rounded face. He had such a chiseled job that the beard makes it look so much rounder. He wouldn't know it was him.
There's a conspiracy theory that there was some beard extension. Where are you guys getting these Jeremiah Johnson? He's making this up. He made that up.
There's no conspiracy theory. What's age of best? I like that the crows built a statue for Jeremiah and all his kills, like a little memorial place. Like it was out of respect, but they're also still trying to kill him.
Right. It's pretty good. Yeah. It would be like, it would be like the basically.
Like a Jersey swap. Yeah. Like Bill's fans of blood in the Lamar at the end of the game, you know? Or I was thinking six or spans.
Like keeping a Tatum shrine. We were being nice to each other. I guess I can't talk with Tatum. I like that in the 1840s where they would just call people by like the most basic.
He's called Pilgrim, woman, boy. Yeah. It's like nine people out there on like a 300 mile radius. You can kind of get away with that.
You even need to know names back then. The song in the beginning, I enjoyed. Bear Claw, just hunting grizzlies and collecting the claws. That's his thing.
He's like Sean with Blu-ray. Just like I got some more blue claws. I just saw them Sean Blu-ray. That would be his Native American name.
Also, this guy said he's a bear claw system. You're the same dumb pilgrim that I've been hearing for 20 days and smelling for three. There's a lot of like how much are people being watched in this movie? Like a movie tracked, which is really kind of fascinating because you have to imagine the crow must have seen Jeremiah lead the cavalry through the burial ground.
Yeah. So yeah, it's getting surveilled out there. Well, when they when the when the reverend and the lieutenant come to his cabin, the first thing they say is we're being watched. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You're in crow territory. This is crow land.
The other thing, you know, sense our recurring theme in this movie. You mentioned it earlier with the pants or my dad. Yeah. The odors must have been just terrific.
I can't even imagine. You must just be nose blind at a certain point, right? Yeah, you must like it must just you just can't smell anything because it's so bad. That part of your brain just must die.
And like there's no refrigeration for really. So you're just dragging meat around. Like I just think that they were living on the edge of that stuff. Yeah.