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We were all terrified of what was going to happen with Van to put them on live YouTube but it all worked out. We worked out great, you're about to listen to it now, here we go. Tom Cruise is Sports Agent Jerry Maguire, what can I do for you, what can I do for you? Show me the money.
Congratulations, you're still my agent. Jerry Maguire opens December 13th. We're live on YouTube, Sean Fennesey, Sheriff Van Lathan, Chris Ryan, and Jerry Maguire, which we did way back when before we even had a Rewatchable Speed, we just started test driving a movie podcast in the NCR on my podcast and we did a Jerry Maguire podcast that had no categories, we're doing it, I think it's been, how many years now since the movie, almost 28? Since it was 95, right?
Yeah. 96. 96. Sports movie of rom-com, pick one.
Do I have to? Yes. I would say rom-com. What do you think?
I would say rom-com but I kind of think it's neither. Sports movie is there. That's where I started to gravitate towards like the parts about the sports of this movie where I like what now? I think it's both, I think it's the most both of any sports movie slash rom-com we've had.
But when we talked about this the last time, I think it's probably slightly more rom-com just because you could have done all this with movies instead of sports and it's basically the same movie. Oh, if he's like a film director or something like that. Yeah, or like Cuba Gooding's character is just like an actor, an up-coming rapper or something like that. Okay.
We just go, it could have been in different worlds with the same kind of bones. Or if Jerry owned a record label? Yeah. He was trying to get back to the essence of hip hop.
He's like, I'm Mr. Black people? I'm Mr. Black people.
You're Jerry owned a record label but he's just, and Rod was like the one artist that brought him back, you know what I mean? You're spoiling me all my cast concept, I feel like. It's true. It's actually Jackson.
It does both. It's one of the best sports movies in the last 30 years, but it's also probably one of the best rom-coms. And it's one of the great date movies of all time. And it hits all of these different lanes in the best ways with our guy Tom Cruise.
Yeah. I'm not, I like what Van said though, I feel like it's maybe more of a existential crisis movie than a rom-com or a sports movie. Explain. Well, you know, Cameron Crow said that he wanted to make a movie about relationships and marriages, so that was the original impetus for the movie.
And he started thinking about the framework for the movie and he'd never seen a movie set in the world of sports agenting and like high-powered sports world like this. So he thought it would be a good fit for it. But what you see is that it's not so much the relationships that he's interested in. It's the guy who feels like a stand-in for him, a kind of creative person who has sucked into a big world of power, who's bending his ethics and then like reaches a point almost at midlife where he's like, why am I doing this?
I'm not happy. This isn't what I want to be or what I believe in. I have to change. That's the arc.
Not the arc. Have you ever had a McGuire moment? If I read like a midlife crisis where I was like, I'm not potting the right way. Yeah.
Yeah. I was where you came back from Norway. That was going to happen. Fewer pods less money.
Fewer pods less money. Don't do two pods in one day. I can't do Philly special. Just that looting there.
You know, I actually saw this on a date. I did. It's 97, Paulette Gray. I saw it on a date.
That was her name. Okay. Yeah. I ignored her for the rest of the night.
I was so, I think it's a bad day movie. To me, I think it's intense. The movie, I was still formulating my views on like not just, I had all my pseudo political views and my artistic views. But the movie just made me think about people in a way that I hadn't really thought about them before.
Like even athletes in a way that I was like, oh my God. So you could be in the NFL and still be striving to be something and be insecure about all of these things in your life. And I was like, there's not a level of success where you get to and then, oh my God, it's just, it just stops. So I was coming out and she was like, I remember walking, uh, seeking lane.
Like I'm walking out. She's like, the movie really got to you. I was like, leave me alone. I'm thinking about the next 20 years of my life.
Was there a second date? Uh, we ended up being together for a long time. Oh, that's beautiful. What happened to you guys?
I think this is a belief movie almost more than it sports me around. Because ultimately, it's like rat did bone his family believing in Jerry. And it's Dorothy Boyd believing in Jerry. And that's it.
And then there's not a lot to see because he's been his career has been torpedoed. But they see something. They see a belief. They see something they don't want to give up on, right?
Which is the ultimate Tom Cruise part because this is what he specializes in. This is the cruisiest Tom Cruise movie we've ever had. Yeah. I mean, we're going to get into the Cruise and Hanks piece, but like the way in which he embodies this guy is frankly the times when you're watching it.
It's like mania. You know what I mean? Like it's like by the first, I think he's kind of had his, his epiphany within the first six minutes of the movie. And then he stays in this kind of heightened frequency of empathy and sensitivity and vulnerability and just racing around trying to make everything work for the entire film.
It's like it's such as in a way it is an action scene unto itself as just the movie as Tom Cruise emoting for two hours. So he has to learn to believe in them as much. He has to learn to believe in Rod. He has to learn to believe in Dorothy.
And then he has like learn to believe in himself. Like the whole movie is about him falling into what he really is. He's we don't get to see this whole past with his father. When he sits down and he talks to Ray, the kid, he wants to talk to Ray about his dad.
Yeah. He's like reaching back for something. He doesn't really know who he is. And so as much as those people have to like get into what he's becoming, he has to also ground himself and who they are.
It's like really a perfectly emotional film. Jerry McGuire, Charlie Babbitt, Joel Goodson, Daniel Caffey, Pete Mitchell. That's not Rushmore, but there's only four spots. Who are you bumping?
Say the names again? McGuire, Charlie Babbitt, Joel Goodson, Daniel Caffey, Pete Mitchell. Ethan from Mission Impossible's. I think I take issue with this entire construction.
What's wrong with it? It's related to what you're saying about that. I'm saying cruisiest cruise parts. But I don't, okay, this is personal preference.
Yeah. I don't care about Pete Mitchell the same way that I care about the vulnerable Tom Cruise characters. Oh. My favorite cruise, what I think is the real cruise, the real cruise movie persona, is the guy who looks like he has everything and is dying inside.
The guy from Magnolia, the guy from Eyes Wide Shut. The guy from Risky Business is like Joel Goodson. The guy from Minority Report, too. Minority Report, the color of money, the firm.
Rock of Ages. Yeah, but you guys never saw Oblivion? Yeah. You never saw.
Pure Action Hero, I like, and I enjoy, I love talking on a lovely Mission Impossible movie. But his best performances are the ones where you're like, what is wrong with that guy? He should be so happy, and he's not happy. And that's what this movie is about.
It's a guy who should be so happy. And for some reason, there's something going on inside him. He can't figure it out. That's why we love Last Samurai.
That's the guy's got it on. That's the guy's got it on. It's a vodka. That's the guy's got it on.
It's a vodka. We get in this movie, the cruise checklist includes, we get sprinting cruise. Hey, is there a dark airport? Yeah.
We get hard crying cruise. And we also get trying not to cry. Tom Cruise. We get sloppy drinking Tom Cruise.
Nothing better than, Cruise has definitely never tried alcohol in his life. There's just no question. Especially because I've tied one on all day long in an airport lunch. Busting balls over confident Tom Cruise.
Overconfident. I can do anything, Tom Cruise. And then Rock Bottom Cruise. Completely overwhelmed Tom Cruise.
Yeah. Like, I don't know I can't do anything, Tom Cruise. I've surrendered all of my lookingness and my guile to the world. I like that cruise the best.
Can you do the Tom Cruise? I'm trying not to cry face. Where is he? That's more like the Dorothy Boy.
Can you do something? You try. I'm not a performer in that way. Also, these cameras can never pick the nuance.
I mean, the best one ever is Meg Ryan and Top Gun, saying how. He would have been flying with you. He would have been flying with you. He would have been flying with you.
He would have been flying with you. He would have been exploding with you. But he has a good one here at the end when Rod's given the press conference. He's got a great one.
This is a great cruise stretch. We talked about it before. Days of Thunder, Far and Away. A few good men.
Interview with the vampire. Mission Impossible. And then Jerry McGuire. And he's the biggest star in the world.
And get Stanley Kubrick for the next three years. You say that like it's a bad thing. It's a good thing and a bad thing. Because he wasn't making movies for three years.
And it was basically like somebody like Yokech just disappearing from the NBA for three years. After winning three MVPs and becoming the dance favorite player. And just being able to do that. And just being able to do that.
And just being able to do that. Yokech just disappearing from the NBA for three years. After winning three MVPs and becoming the dance favorite player. And just being like guys.
How long do we last? We last six. 11 minutes. 11 minutes.
What a good chance. It's like where do you have to go? He's just gone. He's back in three years.
He's in London with his wife filming with Stanley. He really was never the same. Like I like a lot of the movies in the 2000s. He's still my favorite.
But every part that he has taken since that movie. You're like why is he doing that? What is Stanley? Yeah.
He just got sick of being America's sweetheart Tom Cruise. He wanted to be a little edger. He wanted to go a little bit different. He wanted to step outside of it and do some new shit.
And he thought working with that type of author would bring that to him. Definitely. Even though it's guys like that. Yeah.
It's an odd weird reason to view it. Then he jumped on the couch and his whole change. That was it. That's super weird.
There's some good on the sports movie front here. Some really good supplemental characters. Yeah. That's a Cameron Crow specialty.
Just like these people that pop in and out who have these really distinct. Almost famous as this too. So to say anything. Single as it.
It's people that don't just have one scene or two scenes. Kush the 88 QB who's in three scenes total. His conniving dad. Pop sugars.
And maybe three and a half scenes. But a super important character. And looms over the whole movie. Kelly Preston is basically in two scenes.
Maybe three. Glenn Fry is Arizona's GM. Only in a couple. Rod's jealous brother.
Yeah. Are you swears? Only in a couple. Right.
Firestone. But he is fired. Yeah. Also leans over the film.
Firestone. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. They were just like Roy. You just cut. Yeah.
Yeah. But they do a good job. And I do feel like there's a before and after with this movie. There's this sports movies where there's the before movie that Rocky Blueprint.
It starts to shift with Ron Shelton. And then right here it really shifts. Yeah. And I think what people wanted was a little bit more of an inside look at sports.
Rather than just the underdog David and Goliath story. Is that what you wanted? Yeah. I mean like this.
Moneyball. These are the kind of movies I love. For sure. Like the sort of taking sports as hardball.
A workplace. Or is like a framework for any other kind of movie. Hardball. Also not a movie.
It's not really a movie about athletes. You know. It's about the barnacles that attach themselves to athletes. The world behind the world.
It's not a movie about athletes. And yeah. I've made this case. I've made this one for me.
He's my favorite. Kind of interesting. When he comes in there just never been a character quite like this. And he's fully developed.
He's pieces of different people who are in sports in the mid 90s. But not a sticky character version of them. But like this fully developed person of the family. I just like them.
It's actually a risky character if you do it wrong. Totally. So if you do the character wrong it looks like a character of the contemporary black male athlete. If you get any of the notes wrong there it looks like you're trying to say something about how shallow they are, about how materialistic they are.
But Rod has enough levels to where that just doesn't hold water. He is a devoted family man. Even when he's talking about why he wants to get paid. He's not talking about man.
I need a car. I got five years left. I got five years left. There's ants in my crib.
I don't have security. I got 32 concussions. Yeah. The whole nine.
So if you do the role wrong. You could get think piece in Essence and Ebony magazine. We're like months. I'm just being the real.
No, I'm just trying to imagine like the viral Essence or Ebony monthly column that would take down to. The blackening. But the character really when you get to it at the end is just like a really vulnerable family guy. You love him.
Yeah. I mean, there's been some other great ones. Like I was thought Apollo Creed was an unbelievable character. And he's going to leave his win hole.
Yeah. Well, even in the first one where he's doing a Muhammad Ali, but he's he had the charisma. And you really bought that this guy was the heavyweight champion in the world. But this is the most developed of anyone we had of this point.
I think it's what Crow does best. And to some extent you can see how much you learn from James Al Brooks, who obviously played a part in this movie. All over this movie. Yeah.
But it's finding the universal in the specific. This movie is so specific. It's about a slot receiver for the Arizona Cardinals and his agent who's having a nervous breakdown and a single mother who's his like assistant slash life partner. And all of the stuff that's happening with the divorce women's group and his mission statement and his relationship to his father and Ray and all this stuff is so specific, but like the more and more specific it gets, the more you're like, I see myself in this.
And that's like Crow's gift. It's like Lloyd Dobler is such a specific creation, but somehow became an iconic teenager. You know what I mean? Even though not everybody was Lloyd Dobler growing up, you kind of recognize something true in it.
And that's what he does in this movie. That's so amazing. It's also the movie that Cruz saw that made him say I want to work with that guy, which leads to this two movie collaboration. Right.
There's the little pieces like his family watching the games and he points to the TV at one point and they do that stuff. It's just like there's a lot of little stuff in here that is what happens if you read the characters. He wrote the script 20 versions of the script, right? And I think each version he does, he's deepening it, deepening it, making that a real thing.
You know what else, man? This is gonna sound so mean to you. But Rocket's hurt. We're all holding our breath, even in movie theater, we're holding our breath.
Somehow we know he's gonna get up, but still, you never know, right? And his brother goes, see, I told you he was too smart. That's so real. Yeah.
The hate inside of your group. Right. Like even if you get to somebody, your homeboys and NBA is like, man, before he just goes, but I used to cook this motherfucker. Like the whole, for some reason that right there, now that I've got some age on me, that's so accurate that he would have said something like that and then a wife would have jumped on him.
TP was so before his time. He was like, right. He was like, he takes me into making TP Nick, right? He could have just been like, but they said the story of the Cuba getting apart was he was like one of the first people they auditioned and he crushed it and came in and just was basically became the guy and even like took his clothes off to do the scene with Cruz.
But then they auditioned a bunch of people after him and he was so good in the audition. They had Jamie Foxx and they were like, Jamie Foxx would have been a good rod to go. But none of them could shake the Cuba. And they made this brother take his clothes off and all that.
No, he took him off. He asked. That was the nice thing. It's commitment to it.
No, he's like, can I take my pants off? And I'm like, okay. He was getting his jeans out. That's a great place for me.
We passed that. I see it, man. I got to come back into it. He's got me on high learning, man.
So this comes out of 96. He got games 97 and he gave him Sundays 99 like we're now we're moving into the 2.0 version of sports movies. I think both of them starts at probably eight men out for the room in the late 80s, but this is like the whole realization. But major league is kind of the old rock recipe.
Yeah. That's the best age of Hoosiers. Yeah. But we're off.
But really with this movie. Dorothy Boychon. Hollywood tradition. The we are discovering this actress in real time part, not those of us who were holding tightly to our empire records.
Oh my God. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
And our success on massacre for stock as well. Oh, that's right. I got about that. Yeah.
We were on the train. He is. Yeah. Yeah.
She was cheap. I mean, it is like. I was just rewatching the school in Evert four minute review of this movie. Of course, it's like they saw Fettled one of the great movies of the 1990s, but it was undeniable that they had hit on something with her.
Yeah. I was thinking like, Julian, pretty women, but she'd been a mystic pizza. She'd been on my advice, but then pretty women is when it blows up, right? Sandra Bullock and Speed.
She'd already been in love with potion number nine and his mother was Marissa told me we had a history with her. And sometimes it just happens. If they had cast somebody who we had history with, I'm not sure it's the same movie totally. Yeah.
Sandra Bullock would have been awesome in this movie. Yeah. I mean, she would have still been Sandra Bullock. She's get the couple of steps when the movie dropped because there were some young what actresses around the time.
This is the rewatchable. Yeah. It's not her. It's still that about me.
Yeah. This was in the throes of Liv Tyler, who was in Empire Records, where there's like a lot of the young ones coming up and she kind of shot past them once the movie went so big. Who you reading for in this movie? Dorothy Boyd or Jerry Maguire?
I had to choose. Yeah. I don't think that's the point of the film. Yeah.
Jerry Maguire? I guess. I feel like this is Dorothy Boyd. One of the weird things about this movie that works is it flips it so that you're actually want her to be the one that's happy in the end, right?
When she breaks up with them, it's like 20 minutes ago on the movie. Yeah. I felt like I was getting a break on a used car and you're like, God damn, Dorothy, you're just a good person. I really hope this works out of the way.
You and your strange kid. I hope that this happens for both of you. I was rewatching this movie on Mother's Day weekend with my wife and she pulled a Luke Wilson could have inherited Ford hardcore where she was like, Dorothy Boyd sucks. This character sucks.
Everything she says about Jerry is not believable. Why is she so obsessed with this guy who is a loser, which is kind of a great read of the movie. I like this. Jerry is kind of a leader.
It's kind of a leader. I know. And she's not usually wanting to go for a hot take. Okay.
She's like, this always pissed me off about this movie is like the scene where she's talking about it. I just love him. I love him. Like that.
She's like, that's bullshit. Which I, you know, I never saw. So it's like, I think that there's a little element of like, she's lived way too much for her. She says it.
She says it. She's a little of this 26 year old. Yeah. She's also overwhelmed by him.
She's looking at in first class and she goes, it's not just a better meal. It's a better life, which is wrong. It's a better everything else, by the way, Dorothy. I had that later.
Yeah. It's like, it's a good meal. Get your money. Because there's a lot.
There's a lot. There's a lot. They just care about you more as a human being. They do.
When you sit back in the back of the plane, you'll fuck less about you. Yeah. Here's your cheese plate. He's so lucky.
You should be so lucky to pay for it. All right. This is way really bad. But with her, she's just so overwhelmed by everything about him.
But at the beginning, it is slightly annoying. But once she gets into who he really is and once he's been kind of cut down the size a little bit, then he starts to need her more than she needs. And that's why you can't say who won. They don't win unless they have each other.
Yeah. She's the idealist of the movie, right? It's a movie about a deeply cynical world and deeply cynical people. And she's the person who you're like, there's a reason to go forward.
Like there's a reason to believe in love, to believe in this mission. To believe that you care about people. Yeah. You think Jerry's the anti-bob sugar, but really don't do it.
She's the balance. She's the balance. Yeah. Especially being older now.
It's like, if I was like, guess what, honey? I wrote a 25 page memo to bill about less pods. Fewer pods less money. I think that she would have some issues with it, you know?
Especially if I didn't have to help it if it's all lined up. I'm so excited to host the watch when you get fired. I'm so concerned about it for a while. My question is this, when you fire him, who is the ball sugar that you sit in to deliver the fire?
It's him. It's him. It's got to be shown. I'm here to fire you.
You should say something. It's happening. It's happening. It's happening.
It's happening. It's happening. I just love that you say it like Aaron Gordon. One of my favorite kid performances ever.
A watch is my daughter and boyfriend a month ago and we decided we're going to do this for a library watch. They were just like an odd. They were just like, where did this kid, what happened to him? Was he even more stuffed?
This kid should have been the biggest star in the world. I was like, that was it for him. It's a plus plus plus. It's so good.
Every moment he's in the movie is an A plus. And in cruise together are also like all-time adult kid acting care. Apparently they added a lot of that. They just like the cameras roll with Tom Cruise pretending he was drunk.
And then Tom Cruise. The fucking zoo was closed. It's raining everyone. It's beautiful.
So I'll give you Kramer versus Kramer kid. We did Nicky. We did the Cody and Man on Fire. Henry Thomas.
Henry Thomas and E.T. Those are Cody and he flies with me. Henry Thomas. He flies with me.
Mccali and Home Alone. Haley Joasmine. Sixth Sense. The only great little kid performance of the movie we haven't done yet.
Abigail Brezzan and Little Miss Sunshine. Because none of you will do that movie with me. The only one that likes it. Don't recall being asked.
And Drew Barrymore and I reckon Sal with the differences. Which is a movie that no longer exists. Those rare movies from the 80s that are just gone. Like they're just gone.
They're gone. Like getting the cruisers. Turned by and showed it like twice. I taped it.
It's just history. I taped it. Wait. I never saw any in the cruisers.
You know I'm confusing it for you. You remember the movie about the movie? No. Eddie in the Cruising would be a great.
Eddie in the Cruising is a good mashup. I'm confusing it with this movie and nobody's going to have seen this movie about this guy who was like a biker from the 50s and he was playing chicken and he died. And then he went to heaven and he came down as a ghost to like help his son be cool. Don't remember that movie.
You guys never saw this? No. Gosh. It's tingling something in my mind.
It's like heaven to me. It's the heavenly kid. I remember the name. I don't know if I was.
It's okay. It's the heavenly kid. I just want to lie back. You thought that was Eddie in the cruisers.
I've never seen Eddie in the cruisers. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. Any lip-nicky thoughts or should we move on?
He's not doing the thing that a lot of those actors he talks about are doing in the movie, though. Like, Kelly Jollisman is the center of the Sixth Sense. Like he's just the pixie dust. He's the sprinkler.
He's the sprinkler. Every time he comes in. So we don't know if lip-nicky could withstand like TIBs minutes. That's right.
Yeah. Try it. See what happens. You will fall lip-nicky.
But he's coming off of people saying singles was a failure, even though we love it. So his mentality is like, this is my chance. Like I have to do something that lasts. What's in a big deal at the time?
No. It came completely. I must immediately, but it didn't do well. And then people who were into that music were like, didn't quite capture it.
Yeah. Too late. Too late. I was in love with the movie from the first frame.
They didn't really, because I was too young to be fun. He also makes movies that like, it's amazing to be 14 to see his movies. You know, like if you're younger when you see his stuff, it's so, so idealistic and so exciting. And so it seems so genuine.
Yeah. Like a lot of filmmakers don't, you know, they're like, I'm trying to just make a cool movie that is successful. And it's with him. I don't know.
There's an authenticity that comes across with his writing that is very, very hard to define. I meant to say this when we're talking about Zoegar. I mean that famous scene when the Bruce Springsteen song comes in, when Jerry's talking, and then cut and he just stays on her face. That's like the camera crow.
He really is good at milking somebody's face expression. He doesn't almost famous over and over again with the little kid. What's his name? What's his name?
Yeah. What's his name? William Miller. Yeah.
He's a good at lingering on him. He's a great journalist. He's a good lingerer. He's an observationalist.
Yeah. He's the person who's seen life play out. I remember one of the biggest reactions in the theater to the movie, and obviously people are going crazy. Show me the money and stuff like that, is when he's all fucked up.
He comes back and he tells her I just broke up with Avery and he turns away from the camera and she goes, right, right, right. Like everybody just, you feel her so much in that moment. You know that that's a gift that she couldn't have even thought to ask for. You know who didn't feel her?
Sean. This is true. During that scene, I was marveling just like you were, and I was like, I rewound it. You have to watch Zellweger in this scene.
It's so great. And she's like, no. What? I don't know.
She wasn't feeling the desperation. She wasn't feeling the desperation. I don't know what it was. I don't know.
She's like perk with Jason Tatum. I'm not seeing it. Not seeing it off. Renee Zellweger has to step up.
Crow went on and run a Billy Wilder movies. Sean, I'm going to give you 30 seconds to talk about Billy Wilder. 30 seconds. 30 seconds on the clock now.
Writer, director, immigrant who came from Europe during World War II, who basically redefined the same way that the new Hollywood redefined movies, he redefined movies in the 40s and 50s and having a slightly more cynical but emotional bent to his rom-com, war movie, detective movies. He's a legend and clear inspiration for Cameron Crow, who wanted to cast him in this movie, but he declined as the fainty. Yeah, a lot of the research on this movie is just Cameron Crow and Cruz trying to convince Billy Wilder to be the dickie box character for months and months. And he just was like, fuck off, guys.
He was really inspired by the apartment where they came out in 1960 with Jack Lemmon and a very young, not crazy, but he became a Dorothy Boything. Crow said, quote, Jim Brooks handed me this photo of a sports agent named Gary Richard with Brian Bosworth, a fun picture of these two guys. And he said, look at this relationship between these guys, what do you think about that kind of story in this world? And he was like, can you dive into this photo?
And the movie eventually became inspired by an agent named Lee Steinberg, who had an ex-partner, tried to lure away a bunch of his clients, Drew Rosenbaum, who was a big agent back in the night. He wasn't sure he wasn't out, sorry. He was on the rise in the face, he's a pop-sugar. And then the memo was based on Jeffrey Katz and his name.
I was just reading that. I wrote a 28-page memo that kind of backfired. For him? Yeah.
Well, he made it. I'm saying for him. Well, Jeremy, go ahead and run a spin. He got ratted.
Well, they put $2 million. For Captain Bird Dreamworks, it was his ratted look. Pretty much. So those were the genesis and the kept going.
And it's this first almost famous for me for Crow. I probably have seen almost famous more times, but I love both movies. But I think this one hired a great difficulty only because almost famous was so personal in autobiographical, and this is just, he started from scratch and creating everybody in it. And also, we all love sports, such a high bar with a sports movie where I'm just ready to get mad and nitpick and just go nuts.
Oh, you did this. You did that up. And you did a good job. Yeah.
Classic, better favorite. Almost famous is better than this movie. This is my favorite movie that he's made. Actually, my favorite movie that he made actually might be singles, but it almost famous is probably better.
Who's better famous? Yokechin and B. Not a hero, man. Both down.
Written and directed by Cameron Crow, produced by Jim Brooks, director of photography. My guy. Yarnish Kaminsky. Yeah.
A parent in a Zoe's class when I was a kid who did a giant photo essay of like our first great thing, which I guarantee was the greatest photo essay anyone's ever had in like a first or second grade class. Nominated for five Oscars. Keep a good, he wins. Best sporting actor.
I sent you the Oscar speech. They fucking played his ass off in 30 seconds. Yeah. God, I love you.
Hallelujah. Thank you, Father God, for putting me. What you put me through. But I'm here and I'm happy.
I just want to. Oh, here we go. Okay. Studio, I love you.
Cameron, bro. I love you. I love you. Man.
Unbelievable. He barely started. There was an argument about this advanced 11th grade English class that he didn't get enough time. Mrs.
Smith, wherever she is right now, shout out to Mrs. Smith. She might be. Mrs.
Smith said that he shouldn't have won because the role was just an over-the-top minstrel show. Mrs. Smith was white. I remember going, what?
And she was like, yeah. And you see the way he acted when he won? He got up there and he did the whole thing. That just shows you that that's not acting.
That's not what ever. And I remember I looked at Mrs. Smith and I went, you're a racist. You know?
And she turned in. Actually, Mrs. Smith. Actually, Mrs.
Smith. She was like, get out, man. And I actually gave me the slip. And I was walking to the office and I never took it because I was too afraid because she kicked me out of the class.
And I stayed around the whole day. And then I found her later on. And she was like, why did you call me that in front of the whole class? I was like, because it seemed like you were kidding mad at him because he was dancing and because he was portraying the black athlete.
It just came across to me as a racist. She was a racist. Walked away. Hated me for the rest of my heart.
These kinds of stories that really bring us closer to the film too. It's facts. It's what happened. That's why I always from the movie, I call Mrs.
Smith a racist to her face. I probably took the one on YouTube. Well, I mean, I'm on YouTube right now. It's a very strange YouTube clip because he wins.
He goes up. They cut to like Will Smith, they cut to Halle Berry and they cut to like the three black actors are actually standing up. And he goes to Cuba. And he's like, they're going to play me off.