Jesus Never Called Us to Fill Seats—He Called Us to Make ...

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In this episode of Conversations, I explore the difference between building crowds and making disciples. While many churches measure success by attendance and engagement, Jesus’ mission in Matthew 28 was clear: make disciples. We talk about why Sunday services cannot carry the full weight of spiritual formation, how Jesus modeled relational discipleship, and why proximity, accountability, and shared life are essential for real growth. This conversation challenges pastors and church leaders to rethink how discipleship actually happens and how churches can prioritize formation over attendance. 📝 Weekly Newsletter I send a free weekly newsletter where I share honest thoughts on leadership, ministry, faith, and building something that actually lasts. Subscribe here: https://conversations-with-josh-andrew.beehiiv.com/ 🎙️ Editing & Production I use Descript to edit and produce this podcast. It makes audio and video editing simple, fast, and clean. 👉 https://descript.cello.so/5I4MealWKa2 Get More Views & Subscribers on YouTube https://vidiq.com/joshnandrew/ 🔗 Website: https://joshandrew.org More links: https://linktr.ee/Joshnandrew

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This episode was published on April 10, 2026.

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In this episode of Conversations, I explore the difference between building crowds and making disciples. While many churches measure success by attendance and engagement, Jesus’ mission in Matthew 28 was clear: make disciples. We talk about why...

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