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Welcome to Dennis Sports, the place where sports opinions galad with 13 years of experience. We are bringing you the hottest take in depth analysis. We are here to give you guys my health of a show. And we are in we're heading into week six right fellas.

Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll be quick. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is.

I'm your host joining me on the show. We have Spike, FIFA, Shelton, and oh, he popped up. There he is. And Nick, Nick is here.

So yeah, man, we have a lot to cover with some breaking news. That popped off today. So we definitely do not want to keep you guys. Um, you know, we know Spike has a bit of time also.

Yeah. So I took a nap today. So I'm going to give a little nap. I got my old man nap.

So yeah, man, we want to go ahead and jump into what we got for you guys this week. Started with, um, I guess the breaking news, man. Um, well, no, no, no, no, we'll get to that in a second. We get to the second.

I'm not following out loud here. I've got Nick hit me up in how you wanted to proceed. We're going to start with college football. Um, the top ranked teams, top ranked teams like Alabama, USC, Michigan, and Tennessee all lost to unranked teams this past Saturday.

Which of these teams have major issues going forward this season? Shelton. What do you see out there? I would say Alabama.

Uh, and the reason I say that is because they lost to a Vanderbilt team that previously, according to Nick Saban was the easiest team on the SEC schedule to beat it. He won't beat somebody. It should be Vanderbilt. So losing to Vanderbilt, the way they lost and then the discipline of the players, the way the players looked out there, it was kind of scary.

It was, it was scary for them. I mean, um, cause you got some tougher tests coming up ahead and going forward. You just, you just hope that they can turn that around. And it's not really the office that I worry about.

It's more of the defense for Alabama that look kind of shaky, Vanderbilt had their way with them. And that's not something that we're used to. The office was putting up points, but you got to square every time to keep up. That is not a good thing.

And they're known for defense. And they got some dogs at the most of the time. And that just was not the normal Alabama showing that we're used to. So that worries me.

I want to add to your point, um, you know, it's how the school bus, I don't know everybody's name, but I want to say it's number 13. Yeah. When you had that temper tantrum on the field, that is so undisciplined, uh, especially coming from a program like Alabama, we've never seen that. And the thing is, you know, obviously sports at a very high level is emotional.

And you can get out of character, but you got to snap back in the fact that he weighed off the substitution. He basically turned his back on, not only the defensive coordinator, the head coach. That's a bad look overall. So at first, I didn't necessarily agree with you, but when you just pointed out the defense, I don't disagree.

Yeah. Go ahead and go. Sorry. No, no, no, fish.

Point. I was just going to say they have the most to prove as well. The mother teams, more of us expected Alabama, especially after being Georgia. So that's why I say they were going.

But I was going to say, I disagree with your show and because who has more to prove than a defensive champion. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think Michigan has been itching to lose multiple games this season against ranked teams and for them to lose against Washington, the team that they defeated in last year's or just, you know, earlier this year's championship game. Um, in the fashion that they did kind of really expose Michigan's offense, like they don't really have it.

Um, the one before I get into that though, with Alabama, with the new college playoff settings, I think we have to get, um, at least for me personally, um, we have to adjust how we look at losses now, because usually in the old playoff system, one loss means you get her out of it. If not already out of it. Now with the expanded playoffs, adding, you know, more teams and the format, um, you can get in with two losses, maybe even three, not saying that Alabama has that much, you know, rope to give them slack, but, um, then losing the Vanderbilt was in ugly, but then coming back, like to be honest, if they lost to Georgia and Vanderbilt, then yes, shall not wish you this is a horrible look, because they didn't have lost in that Georgia game, but they came back. Um, and I know, Bama fans, if they're not undefeated, they're unhappy pretty much.

So in my mind, the season is not over. Vanderbilt was ugly, but again, in this, in this expanded playoff system, you can take one loss and be fine as long, but they do have a ugly road coming up, because I think they face LSU on the road, Oklahoma on the road and Tennessee on the road. So they have to kind of clean things up early now. Um, but to me, it was Michigan, Michigan is the one that stood out to me just because, um, the head coach has bigger shoes to fill than, um, the board.

Uh, I know they're saying that because Nick's name is a Hall of Famer as far as college football coaches, but again, I'm going off of just like, what have you done for me lately? Like he's just coming off a championship with Michigan. And if they go from, uh, when the national title tonight, you're making a playoffs, which is possible because I can easily see them losing to Ohio State. You know what I'm saying?

Like I think that's all House days, one of the most, uh, untucked about highly ranked teams right now, just because I guess, to say I'm really played anybody, but if, um, if Michigan doesn't make it to the playoffs with a black head coach that's on, you already know somebody getting fired or some big change, I go, come on. Um, you try to buy a black coach. I'm just saying, but college football is a different beast. You know what?

You're saying you're going to get fired. We get to that conversation. You know, too. Cause at this point, you already know in the wingman, somebody making fire.

I've already been fired. Robress said, but you have a job in management. I'm you know, I'm not even just that. He would get rid of the whole staff.

He's like, Oh, everybody. Hey, one day, but he's a people. These are these are not reasons. These are not my decisions that I want to make.

These is what the streets saying. I have, I got a, I got a direct phone line to the streets. They call me. I was saying, I was going to buy some from Cincinnati block.

I'm pretty sure I don't hold the brass. I'm sorry to Colorado. Those are streets to eat up. I'm sorry, man.

I watch big 10 football. Cause again, I can't, you know, I'm from Ohio. So I will watch my house, day games and everything in that conference. Michigan has not looked good at all consistently.

The season they do not have a quarterback. They do not have it outside of that defense in that run game. And it's, and it's not been consistent with that too. Like they have been, like they could have had multiple losses that so far this season.

So for them to lose to Washington on the road is interesting. But moving forward, like I'm really watching Michigan heavily. Cause if they get one or two more losses, which is possible, we're looking at that program a little bit differently, especially because we, Harbaugh left, which was then felt like a heart and soul of that team. And he turned around that program to be respectable because Ohio say, which is dominating the big 10 until then.

So that's where my, that's where my, my smoke is mostly going towards Alabama. It's going to be all right. Like I'm sure based on how that Georgia game went, Alabama is going to be all right. I think Michigan is, it's, it's not a, this is a rebuilding.

I think that they're going to give that coach the leeway to, if you do have two, three losses, you still go to a ball game. You still Michigan, hopefully you're competitive against Ohio State. So I think Michigan will be fine, but I do think that they will lose a couple more games. I haven't looked good, but the team that I would be most worried about, Alabama's point, they always struggle against athletic QBs, even when say it was there.

Vanderbilt, well, anytime they face a running QB, they've struggled, even through the dominance of saving, that's been something that gives Alabama trouble when that continues as we sing with Vanderbilt quarterback. And I think they'll be fine as well. I'm most worried about Georgia. Georgia doesn't look as talented as they have over the last couple of years of dominance.

I don't think that because of the quarterback, they don't have any good. I receive us. They haven't been dominant on defense like they usually are and going up against that tough SEC garlic. I just don't think that they're going to be able to do the same things that they've been doing over the last couple of years.

So I'm cool with Alabama. I think they'll still get in Georgia makes it get in, but I think they'll have two losses, maybe even three. And then we'll see if they get in with that. And I think Michigan, like people are going to give, even though he's black, they're going to give him at least two to three years.

So the three, they will. They will. I'm not saying I'll give you two. Three.

I'm going to give you two. Because again, again, from me watching the big 10 is basically Ohio State, Michigan. You may want to add a couple, but it's basically Ohio State, those are the faces of that conference because they got history. There's a big, you know, around college football, those are two big franchises.

Michigan, when it comes to losing, like Michigan can go lose every game, but that Ohio State game, they got to win that. And that's the whole reason why Ryan Day's ass is on the high seat. Because if he don't win, if he don't win in all this year or at least win the conference and make it to the championship round, his ass going to be out. And he and the only team that he lose to is Michigan.

So it's like, again, we're talking about, this is a different, different type of fan base, different type of boosters. It's not like the NFL where you'll get two, three seasons away with a fuck. Nah, like these motherfuckers want to win, especially if they just got done winning, you know, so they're using success. They're not trying to go back.

But they take. I'm sorry. No, I was just going to say they, but they said we'll give them a chance. So Nick, you get his own players in that you get at least three years, no matter what.

And I do agree with you, Lou on Georgia. I wouldn't think about Georgia because they didn't lose this week as only as I left them out, but you absolutely right. Georgia is in trouble. Georgia got to play Texas.

They got to play Tennessee. They got, they got some tough games. And don't be, and don't be, they got tough games left. And they, and you're right.

They don't have no running game to speak up. That's, that's, if he ends, okay, but he ain't, he ain't getting it done. No, I'm not making playmakers. But Nick, I said, I still say Alabama over because the board is not Alabama guy.

So when saying that, you know, you already got people that were side out in the higher. So if he gets in there and loses immediately, the following, he had enough, but they don't, you know, a lot of those people didn't want him in the first place. But he has pedigree though. He came from Washington when he was with 25 and three.

They don't care. You know what I'm saying? I get it. They don't care.

Like I understand like I went to the university. I was like, I understand what the fan base is like, but I'm also again, I'm a man of Nick, you know, saying like, I'm just trying to tell you what the, what, the even balances of this, like they're going to be fine. I believe, I believe you just got to let him figure it out. He's going to have, he's not next saving.

He's not the second coming to Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Like Nick Saban is a outlier against many football coaches. So he's not that, but at the same time when I'm looking at the Michigan head coach, he had a big, he had a lot of big shoes.

And I'm only coming at it. Not because he was, because we already know I don't, first of all, I hate Michigan before more and second of all, when he was crying on the damn camera. That's the guy that's Steven from Django. He lost it for me from there.

So ever since ever since then, it's kind of like, all right, but what are you going to do when you're the captain? And so far, but machine does not have a quarterback. I don't think they're really that competitive. They almost, they should have lost the USC.

Again, it's just there's just some things that went their way. And this was just a, it's the second half pretty much what I'm looking at with his coaching. He doesn't really do good at the second half of games. But as far as everyone else, I think USC is overachieving right now, especially coming off of the K.

The Williams era and Tennessee, I think they're dangerous, but I still feel like they're playing with house money too. And I think Bama's going to be fine. I think Michigan out of those four is going to be the one that I feel like has the most issues, especially with the team that could put points on the board. Yeah, I think this was some get back for that team.

And I was, I was happy. I hate Alabama. So I was happy for a band to build because I think Saben was talking shit about him anyway. So that was a good win for them.

I'm with you on Michigan. I mean, it was inevitable that they're going to lose. They're going to lose more. But second, they may have four or five losses, honestly, because they're just not good.

They don't have a quarterback. They don't have a white quarterback. They don't have a black quarterback. They just went and went it off.

So they are in serious trouble. I haven't watched an opportunity to make a duress, a render verdict on them. I've seen USC Alabama, you know, I think USC will be all right and Alabama, you know, they'll be straight. So, but I even though Georgia didn't lose, I think they're definitely absolutely playing with fire.

So I don't trust that team at all. But, but yeah, yeah, so anyway, but yeah, the college football was really interesting this past weekend and Cam Ward, he almost was on his list, too. I almost, I almost put the question up because I was breaking news. So we can get to it.

But I was, I think we brought up in the chat, I was like, can Ward or Shador Sanders, you know, that's not it's not him. What's the answer to what's the point? Shador. It's a much better point.

I'm not going to say that. He's not much better. It's just that he has a higher upside. And that's what they're going to look at.

They're going to look at the fact that Shador has a higher ceiling than Cam, but why do you say that? Why do you say that? Because when I watched Cam play, he seems like the more explosive athlete that guy that's willing to take more risk where Shador, he feels like he's more pro ready, mainly because when you watch him play in Colorado, especially last year with no O line and the beginning of this year outside of that last year that they had, I can't remember when they changed the personnel. But you see him make NFL throws consistently guys right in the right in his grill, right?

He, he, when he does move out of the pocket, he's looking to throw the ball down field. I think personally, I'm not saying that you're wrong. I just disagree. I think Cam has a higher upside because he's more of who were buzzed.

I think Shador is the more steady prospect where you know his floor is a lot higher. You know that he could play at the next level, right? And I am, you know, so, you know, we know, we know, at the next level, at a high level, so high, we don't know. So that's why I'm here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be there. Cam, I feel like it's questionable. Can he be as good as Shador? But I think it's also probable he could be better than, but that's that risk, you know, saying that you would take driving them high.

I'd rather take the more sure thing, which is Shador. No fun. Shador looks like, Shador looks like a more natural quarterback. The Cam reminds me of Anthony Richardson, like a less value version of Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson.

We see him do some amazing things on Sundays, but we also see him suck. I think you'll get the same thing I can. He's like, am I going to have the coaches to develop him into a good quarterback? So I'm last going to depend for Cam where he's going to go.

We should do it. He's going to be, I won't say good regardless, but he has the skillset to be good regardless. He goes into a bad situation like Bryce, you know, who knows what will happen. But if you get anything decent or above average, Shador is going to be good.

We've seen the flashes as we go just say of him being a professional ready quarterback, playing with less Italian in Colorado and still doing what he does. Like Shador Sanders is he's that. Yeah, I grew to own part of that. But he's cam is closer to what we see in Jay Daniels than anything else.

And if you look at him, he followed, he absolutely is. And he followed the same role. He followed the same trajectory. Jay Daniels started Arizona State and he was questionable quarterback.

A lot of people were saying he wasn't going to be a pro. We weren't even considered what he is now in the same thing with Cam Ward. When was Arizona State? He was there watching the state.

Same thing. They both came out to the East, to the SEC and to the ACC. And you'll see him developing what they are. Cam is closer to that than anything else.

Not what we see in Jay. Jay. That's what the skillset even in LSU because we see what he did. You see what Jay Daniels did his last year LSU.

Cam can't do it. He can't do that. I can't do it. Yeah.

You know, record breaking gear last year. Like, you know, the other season, he's an over it. I've watched Cam this year. He's not going.

I can confidently say he's not going to come anywhere near what Jay Daniels is. I'm not saying I'm just saying I'm just talking about as far as upside. Like upside is like, again, to me, what Jay Daniels is like, he was, he got drafted to a great situation. I think he got drafted in a better situation than Caleb.

Well, that's revision. It's just my way. No, I had no type of. I was going to get the chance.

I was going to say, I was the one I seen it. I called it early. I was like, I was like, Cliff Kingsbury with Jay Daniels is going to shock a lot of people because of the system that he was. We all we all we all we all we all we.

We all we all we all we all we. Do we not all question the fact of the head coach with the Bears with Caleb and like, well, we'll see how this goes. But Caleb should overcome that because of his, y'all said he was the number one, or pick the most generational quarterback. So he's looking good.

So far, he's actually weeks, but what I'm saying is we can't ward again, like a FIFA mentioned, it depends on where he goes in this situation. As far as the next low end of field, I could see more higher upside than should. That's correct. Well, I'm sure we're not finished with this topic.

You know, I think Cam has done good things to elevate his prospect with those two comeback wins that he executed last couple of weeks. So we'll be back with this when apparently because we have to put this one as a topic. So everybody can have enough time to get their points out. But somebody today had to get out.

And Nick, I saw that, uh, they had to get security bro. That's how true was that? How true was that? How true was that?

He acted a fool. I guarantee you, bro. Did you hear the back? Go ahead.

Just let me let me say real quick. Breaking news, the New York Jets have fired their head coach Robert Salah after their third loss of the season to the Minnesota Vikings in London 23 17. It's the first time I think they fired a in-season coaching, what, 20, 25 years, something like that. What's this fire to early or right on time and the other question is, do we need to have a conversation about it?

Rogers. I think I'll start off. I'll say this. And y'all correct me from around.

I've heard that this is the timeline that I heard. Robert Salah after that loss to Minnesota went to Woody Johnson with something like that, the owner, and he said, I think it's time to let the thing go. And then there was a Woody Johnson said publicly after he fired Robert Salah, Aaron Rogers had nothing to do with this. He didn't consult with him.

But there was a phone call with Aaron Rogers. I believe Monday on Monday. So the correlation of I'm talking to Aaron Rogers after you tell me you want to fire his guy and then you get fired on Tuesday, Tuesday morning to this today. I do find that timing very, very interesting.

And I'm not a huge Robert Salah supporter or whatever. I'm not going to go to bat for him because it's hard to really go with that based off his head coaching record. But I will say they fired the wrong hit. They fired the wrong coach in this scenario.

Who should have been who should they have fired? They should have fired the thing you had. The issue was the offense. The issue was not defense because we watched these last two weeks.

They gave up nine points to Denver lost. And then if you I was I woke up early to watch that Minnesota game and that's that if it wasn't for the pick six that's six. So take seven points off that day. They shut down Aaron.

They prove that Aaron Donald ain't shit. And then on top of that again three picks one of almost a pick six and then the only thing I would have issue with that game as far as like I think we talked about it can like they should keep the field goal when it had that chance to do that to make it a one score game. I think when it was like 10 to seven or whatever or 10 to three but outside of that. But that defense held them in that game.

It wasn't for not that defense. That's probably going to blow up. So the thing about this whole question and the thing with the New York Jets number one. I always talk about bad organizations and how they run things.

And to me this is a bad firing because when you hire a head coach it's what side of the ball are they right? We know that Salah is a defensive guy right like he came from the 49ers and ever since he's been there that defense has been all point. He walked into the Zack Wilson situation and then obviously the Aaron Rodgers of Daniel Hackett based on his lap whether he liked it or not. At the end of the day he did his job right.

He was a leader of men. We saw him in our knocks. He's a leader of men and his side of the ball has been good. Amidst the Hissan Redding situation.

Think about how good that defensive and they have one of the top pass rushers in the lead. Right. So he had. I was going to say we want to have a conversation about Hissan Redding because he was the worst situation anybody was but he lost all that money for no reason.

But at the end of the day my point is that Robert Sallad did what he would you hire him to do right. When you hire defensive head coach you got to make sure that the defensive side of the ball is good because that's essentially what you are. The offensive side the bigger piece of the pie lands out on the OC in that quarterback. And obviously we know that Aaron Rodgers had the the Achilles tear last year he didn't play that was he came in and if you look at the numbers eerily there's very similar to what Zach Wilson did last year and what Aaron Rodgers did when this year.

That being said that Daniel Hackett I've been when we covered that Monday night football game in Denver what did I say get that man out of here bro. He's not the guy. He's not OC he's not a head coach get that man out of here they fired the wrong guy Ken. And in terms of Aaron Rodgers the conversation that we need to have I saw this you know across all of the shows is he a coach killer.

And I think at this point we just have to call a space space when he gets prickly when he gets you know what he starts and we start the week or two ago right when Robert Sallad came up and he was like well to her you know what I'm saying like we've never seen no Tom Brady Bill Belichick situation happen like that we've never seen Pat Mahomes you know what I'm saying if Andy Reed is either going to coach him or hug him or do it is it's mutual. He just never felt like this work out and it's because of a rock a rod didn't necessarily gel with so we have to call a spade a spade. It's not like solid with a horrible coach. What's the body count 20 36 Rodgers body count.

The coaches kill it if you can't make the body count. Mike McCarthy rocks. That's too. That's enough.

I mean you won't. That's not enough. That's not enough. I'm a party on Super Bowl.

He got him fired. Exactly. Mix it. It's like you want Mike McCarthy right now on that.

No. That's what I'm saying. The Cowboys fight. He had to go to the floor.

The floor had to get rid of him. We had to literally ship him out of town because now we finally got somebody with enough talent where Aaron Rodgers wait and go hold as much as it does now in New York so we can put you in love in and we got to listen to him bitch and we can go with the floor in love. So 100% I was just going to say. Hold on before you go in because I'm going to answer the matter floor thing.

When Matt Affluor took over a ride they didn't want to run Matt Affluor's office. Exactly. Like Spike said he had a Jetson again no pun intended. He had to get rid of him so that way he could run his office and we shot with his office.

That's Gucci medal floor out there. He couldn't be Gucci medal floor with A-Rod. That was A-Rod's office. He went to two end of the championship game.

He won a lot of games with A-Rod's. That's a great miss of A-Rod. No, no, no, no. We are not diminishing the greatness of A-Rod.

He's under achiever for how great he is. But let's be honest. Why hasn't he won more? That type of arm.

That's the right there is why people are diminishing A-Rod. That's all people are doing right now. A-Rod's legacy is shit now. We should be shit.

We should be shit. We should be shit. Because he's playing out of record because his performance is a good. We should be shit.

We should be shit. We should be shit. We should be shit. We should be shit.

Because he's playing out of record because his performance is a play out real quick. I just want to say it. What he had to fire Robert Soto because I won Aaron Rodgers is my quarterback. He made that very clear.

As Soto was just, as somebody just said, it was bad luck with the drop. He didn't deserve to get fired at all. But what else would the Jets owner would have done? Because Aaron Rodgers wants to run his own offense as we just ate it.

If you fired at Daniel Hacken, he gets somebody else calling the plays. They're going to be a lot more strict on what they let Aaron Rodgers do. He got a lot of money. He got a lot of money.

He got a lot of money. He got a lot of money. He got a lot of money. I said who's bad luck with the drop?

He didn't deserve to get fired at all. What else would the Jets owner wouldn't have done? Because Aaron Rodgers wants to run his own offense as we just ate it. If you fired at Daniel Hacken, he gets somebody else calling the plays.

They're going to be a lot more strict on what they let Aaron Rodgers do. He got that free man. That's the reason why he won't hack it over. That's about what I want to do.

If this dude is O.C., because I made him the O.C. It seems like he turned the locker room against Soto, had the phone call with Johnson, and then he turned him against Soto. Soto just got a bad hand. He made this out of first place.

into division. And as you guys said, his side of the ball is performing. However, he is a head coach and he responsible for everything else. And that includes a good relationship with the quarterback.

Yeah, that's what I get. I don't know if like, it seems like I don't know if Aaron Rodgers put a wall up or it just saw was not good at the people thing, but he just never broke through with Aaron Rodgers. And that was the problem. You could tell Aaron Rodgers didn't like this dude.

Go back and forth and snap out and bullshit like. Yeah, this is one of the reasons why Aaron Rodgers is a difficult person to like for me. Like he didn't come to him. Go ahead and get worse.

Go ahead, Sheldon. I agree with you, Spike. That's what that was the last thing I was going to add exactly what you said. We can't say that, you know, he's not involved.

It's fine. He's not a coordinator. He's a head coach. He's responsible for all three areas, office, defense, special teams.

He's over at all. And if it's not in sync, you know, the head coach is just as much responsible as you OC. And did he have a hand in picking his own OC? Maybe not.

And that was the whole thing to it as well. What you're going to do? What you're going to do? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, well, he's in it as well. You know, he had his hand in the pot a lot. You could kind of tell.

So maybe a blessing disguised for Salah, who was 20 and 36 by the way in his time there. But I think that, you know, now the focus is going to go where it should go, which is on Aaron Rodgers, where it should have been from all this time anyway. Everybody was saying like he was the missing piece. He got bailed out again early last year.

But this year, all eyes are on him. And he's got to make a difference. And he's not doing so. So I can't really blame anybody else after this.

My thing is this though. So for one, I look at this as like the reason why I'm against the firing is because I know people in the chest, Nick, you don't want to pick the Jets. I still am running with the Jets to win an individual. Because if they win Thursday, if they win, what was it?

Monday night, this upcoming Monday night, they are the first place in the AFCs, which is why I don't understand why they would fire Robert Salah before he can prove himself in this one line. Because of Harry Rodgers. Okay, if that's the case, then I understand that. And well, I get that logic, but I don't understand the timing of if you're going to fire Robert Salah, at least give him a chance to be like, because if you beat the bills, we're talking about a whole different season now, right?

Because now you're really. He goes to that point that you live with about the phone call. If my OCs feed are to the fire now, like if phone call is being made and somebody in the chest, they just try to demote with him, not even fire him. They're just trying to demote hack it.

That still registers Aaron Rodgers says, okay, I'm going to be able to go out here and do what I want to now. I'm going to call to the owner and he's like, he got to go this week. Okay, so you won't Aaron Rodgers so much, you make that move, it don't make any sense from what that actually is what I just said. You got to change.

And this is why I don't understand, this is why I try to see if I always bring up this word, but I'll try to give context too, because it's like, y'all be talking about wins and losses as the ultimate thing. But then when we get to the situation. Y'all, you, you, you, you're all are you, man. Listen, can I finish?

Y'all be talking about wins and losses as the ultimate thing. And then when people bring context into it, it's like, all right, it's only depends on what we talk about. It's like context. The context is wins and losses like, like, show just it.

His record is what 20 and 36? Look at the quarterback's he had, Zach Wilson, Robert Sall has never drafted his own quarterback. He's always inherited a quarterback. He inherited a Zach Wilson and he inherited Aaron Rodgers, right?

So for me, that's like, and then he had Mike White, Joe Flacco, all these other bumfucks in between that. It's like, for him to win seven games, even last year or I think even the year before, it's like, that says a lot about you as a head coach in my opinion. If you're playing with that level of talent at the quarterback position, stands this year that we're talking about, even when the game that Aaron Rodgers got hurt last season, they won that game against the Bills. The Bills went up to being a playoff team.

So my thing is, again, at least if you're going to keep him for this long, give him that Monday night game. I would have respected it if he were lost. If that game, if he were lost that game to the Bills, all right, we need to move on because he clearly can't handle this situation. But if you win that game, we talk about a whole new season.

So now you're bringing in a whole different kind of context into it. Now, even though I said all that, the one thing I know, Lou said, this is hard to root for Aaron Rodgers. I do fuck for Aaron Rodgers for this one. He held down as Nick as kid.

Yeah, he was afraid of Aaron Rodgers. He was like, I'm sorry, he was like, I'm sorry. Look, as long as he can be ahead, though, that's only so he can have control. I want to bring him, I want my mediocre receiver here because I know that I can tell him what to do.

I want my mediocre OC here because I know I can tell him what to do and I'm the great Aaron Rodgers. He only fuck with you if you're going to listen to what he's saying. Yeah. But I think that's 50, though, because when you talk about the player, it's more about trust.

The control comes from the coaching. So yes, Daniel Hackett, that hire is because A-Rock can control him. So the Alizards and the players that he likes, who's up at the Black Dude with the light eyes that was in his wedding? He's like, he like Randall Cox because he could trust those guys.

They're about to trust those guys. So he's different from the players. That's not wrong, FIFA, but where I would challenge you on that is this. We've seen that the beginning of the season with him and Gary Wilson, arguing with each other.

Gary Wilson is like, no, nigga, I'm doing it right. You just suck right now. You ain't putting the ball in the right place. None of these people, he's suggesting because they have that for me, they ain't going to challenge him like that.

That's the point. He ain't going to the store. He ain't going to the store. Well, I'd say that they're not fucking with him the thing you hack it.

So I don't know where control is going to happen. It's the main number that's taken by. It seemed like you'd be the obvious interim head coach. They skip all over him.

No, absolutely. But that's what they do. Nick, you are because he's an and Rogers boy. And he's part of it.

That's what they do. If they listen to Aaron Rogers like that, then the thing you're going to shoot would be the obvious. But he's not. What do you have to do?

What do you have to do? They have to. But we'll see here's the thing that we have to look at. What you say the true context is everything.

They lost, if solid loss, respect, the locker room, which even if it's just half of the locker room, it's hard to be a head coach at that point. That's why you would make that move. But I think the move was made to please Aaron Rogers. That's what I believe.

That's why I'm saying now all the fingers are going to be because he need to go to to be honest with you. Look at the big picture because he's just as much as anybody else. But you're right. You skip over that down your hat because if you make him head coach, I'll guarantee you I have a mu because half that team probably don't respect him there.

He's back. They want to run. They want to stay low. It's some people that are guaranteed pissed off that he got fired.

So I got to get on. I don't think so, Sheldon. You know, none of the players wanted there. When I was saying that they were looking like they were they he was solid was losing the locker room.

And I agree he was losing the locker room. But I'm still saying he has some supporters in that room. Just not going to be a 100% right. Yeah, but then when you let him address the team after the fire, I was like, that's kind of strange.

I really would like to do. That's way right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. My thing is this though is again, it's the reason why I'm just I was just saying give solid one more game give solid chances at least get a chance because if you win this game, you can't fire. You can't first place culture into this.

Yeah, but you can fire. Oh, see, but you can fire. Oh, see, but you can fire. Oh, see, that's why you fire.

Wait, wait, that's why you fire. Hey, excuse me. That's why you fire. Solomon now versus hacking.

Yeah, you can fire an O C. I'm going to go to the context because because think about what I said, I want to say with the 49er game, right, where we saw Shanahan create easy layup throws for Brock Perry. He had four to six of them in that game. And I said, that was the difference between the Jets office and that 49ers office where we see weekend week out.

This is all on the shoulders and brains of a rock AKA freestyling out there doing just living on his greatness. Now, first of all, he's 40 years old, right, so he's not as mobile. Just coming off in the Achilles there. The aren't still guy is still lively.

But come on, bro, like he's not a young A. Rock. You have to be able to scheme thing that are simple open layup in the NFL right now. And as a happy ever since he was a head coach.

So to be honest, like that's why you get rid of hacking now. And you make your decision on the side of the end of the season. But you mentioned a whole point about why hacking is there. The reason that hacking is there.

A lot of people want to do those things that you just explained. He's not performing well as. I understand. You're the hacker.

Now he's not a hard-hearted position. He don't want to be. You Jerry Joe Spikeu, you know what I'm saying? You do the same damn kulee.

When you are the owner, when you are the owner, you have to be able to send messages to your squad. And the message is A-Rod. Look, bro, I know we did a lot of things to get you here. But guess what?

It ain't working. What you doing out there? It don't look like you. You think that's going to work out.

How do you think that's going to work out for the rest of the season? I don't think you're hacking. They're either. I don't know why we have it on the thing you're hacking.

I don't think they don't want him there either. Exactly. So get rid of him. He's the bigger issue.

They don't want any of them. I understand that. I understand that. I understand that.

Yeah. A-Rod got rid of the solid end. A-Rod has to want hacking there. Because if he didn't hack it with B-Rod, I think that they go out to instrumental A-Rod is and they try to appease.

That's what I think. No, he's a mental. He's moody. 100% of his attention.

Yeah, you're right. And they got to keep him happy. There's no other reason. It's because they push all.

It's also a lot of things to this pie. But it's also the fan base. And what they promised going all the way back from that hard night season till now is the fact that they push in all the Egyptian, which is why if they don't get the Vonta out, I'll be shocked. Because this is what I'm saying.

I'm saying I'll be shocked because it's like they're supposed to be like, we're going all like with Jerry Jones saying, we're going all in on this season for the Jets. Because we know that Aaron Rodgers already is looking like we only getting an ounce of what he used to be. Maybe Aaron Allen that he can show up, but they're trying to save the seeds. That's what the owner was saying.

And then that's why the owner was, he was, I feel like he overreacted to the London game because he saw how shitty everything was looking. But if you look at that game, the defense is the reason why they were in it. If you were in it, if you were in it, and his defense goes down here, the defense goes down here, then these games are going to look up. All right.

So before anybody's, no, no, before anybody's saying, I got a shot. Please explain this to me. Somebody's playing this to me. Look at this shit.

I don't even know if y'all can see it. But they have the worst office in the NFL during his era, including this year, points per game, 30 second, office touchdown per game, 30 second, yards per game, 31st. They were at the bottom of the league in all of this stuff. Now you can say it's because of the quarterback's and stuff like that.

But when you go get Aaron Rodgers, you don't expect to be at the bottom of the league again. Well, real quick, Ken, though, the offensive coordinator sucks. So if the office of coordinator sucks and I said, hey, coach, go to the owner, and I realized that I'm at the bottom in all of these categories, and I said, hey, you know what? I think we need to make a change.

We don't even got a fire to do. I just want someone else calling the plays and then I get fired behind that. That's straight out of the Rogers. That's what he was trying to say about it.

He was trying to rectify being that bad. I know I can't bitch Aaron Rodgers, but at least I can do something about the OC. He was bad before. Yeah.

Okay. Because he had Zach Wilson and because he had Mike Whitehead or whoever the fuck was playing quarterback, but it's just that was the reason why now I finally got a good quarterback. I got a vision as a head coach on where I want just to go. And I got to succeed that because this dude won his office of court and he's got sucks.

He's something that wasn't the reason why. And you know that that wasn't the reason though. Yeah. It's the further he had a good quarterback.

So further is aspirated that point. Brie's Hall was set in line to probably the second or third best running back in the league. At this point, it's what everybody thought. Brie's Hall is forgotten.

Nobody even know Brie's Hall even in the league. They don't even know he on the team and he's there. So it's that part is just crazy to me in itself because you got Alan out there, running back to that running game does not exist. They don't even get them guys involved in the office whatsoever.

It's all offensive. We talk about the problems that they have. Like we said, we thought he was not right. It's just not right.

The office outside of the ball is what you got to say. And then we also have like angry big, right? Like they weren't a low first team, even though they had a pretty damn good running back in Aaron Jones and second power back. Okay.

And you know what I'm saying? They weren't necessarily like a dominant run team. It was always centered around a rock. And my question is this, right?

Like where is your energy for Mr. Airy B. Right? Because we always talk about especially when the coach is a video of a coach.

How do you upgrade? Is it worth the upgrade? Right? Go get this guy.

He doesn't see his it. Right? It's all the issues with the enemy. Don't even bring him up.

That's what I was talking about. I was like Eric B. He was like Mark Jackson. We can't give him.

I was like, he's got a league now. He ain't even the league, though. It's like I was like, this is me calling ourselves to the neck. Where are you by?

Apparently one of the worst officers in the FPS history, according to we go. Yes, it's rough. It's rough. You see?

I'm hoping false to get it together. Oh, and also we two boys. Look at Jayden Daniels right now. dang it, that don't look like you're in the enemy.

Right. Oh, what's your he had? What's his name? Throwing for dinner?

He almost let league in the past. Early in the NFL. It fell off ass. It fell off with out.

You go from touching my home to saying how yes, it's gonna fall off real quick. Damn, you have a thousand yards past the last year. Thank you. And here's the other thing that I don't know about the enemy anymore.

I wish he would have got an NFL coach, you guys, when I could hold it over both the eyes. But at the end of the day, like I say, man, when it comes to the OC, bro, can you get some easy layups to me the best OC that I've seen that was a better OC, the head coach, nor turn. You put Lord Turner anywhere that office is going to get better than what it was. And to me, that's what the Jets mean.

Get rid of fucking hack it because he can't and send them as it's a rock. What you're going to do? There's a whole wave of new QBs coming into the league that are either ready to play or they're getting better week by week and they're cheaper than you. So your market isn't huge.

A rock market is a huge. This is right. He's done it. This is why the owner was like, I'm all in.

And I think he's still play. We got all these weapons on offense. We got all these weapons on defense. And it ain't low right.

And it has a little right. When you listen to Broncos, bro. It's the way they lost the Broncos. The organization has the leverage in the situation.

So that's why I'm saying, I don't know. They don't know. It just don't have no leverage. It's a leverage.

I wear it. We thought was good. And now he got up and he got to perform and he not. And we got to watch it.

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