Jim Brainard: ‘We got things done’

He grew up in northern Indiana, the son of musicians. And for more than a quarter-century he has orchestrated a dramatic and unlikely transformation in Carmel. From new corporate headquarters to massive investment in the arts and downtown development, Jim Brainard has been a lightning rod for change and criticism. In episode 91, he talks about his decision to not seek reelection, the future of cities and, yes, all those roundabouts.