Jo Elvin on redundancy, not ‘having it all’ and actual success

If you’ve ever been pushed out of work or made redundant - usually for having a baby - then this episode is for you. The former editor-in-chief Jo Elvin speaks about the moment she was made redundant after 17 years at the helm of Glamour. The crisis of identity that ensued and how she has redefined success. Anna also speaks about the power of ‘average’ and how ‘having it all’ is really just code for ‘doing it all’, which equals burnout and essentially losing everything. Original music by Matt J Brown at WeAreOK.com.