Joanna Wang: Code Is Cheap Now; Developers Still Valuable episode artwork

EPISODE · Aug 18, 2026 · 42 MIN

Joanna Wang: Code Is Cheap Now; Developers Still Valuable

from On Rails · host Rails Foundation, Robby Russell

Joanna Wang is a senior software engineer at Sixfold, where the team builds AI underwriting tools that help insurance companies gather data and assess risk. She came to Ruby on Rails after working across Java, Go, Python, and Node.Robby and Joanna get into why the homegrown orchestration they built on state machines and callbacks turned brittle, what moving to Hatchet changed, and the tradeoffs of leaning on a gem that is no longer maintained. They also talk about what happened when the team went fully agentic, and why Rails magic is easier to understand when an agent can trace it for you.Links:Sixfold - https://www.sixfold.aiHatchet - https://github.com/hatchet-dev/hatchetSend us Fan MailOn Rails is a podcast focused on real-world technical decision-making, exploring how teams are scaling, architecting, and solving complex challenges with Rails. On Rails is brought to you by The Rails Foundation, and hosted by Robby Russell of Planet Argon, a consultancy that helps teams modernize their Ruby on Rails applications.

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Aug 18, 2026

Embed this episode

Joanna Wang is a senior software engineer at Sixfold, where the team builds AI underwriting tools that help insurance companies gather data and assess risk. She came to Ruby on Rails after working across Java, Go, Python, and Node. Robby and Joanna get into why the homegrown orchestration they built on state machines and callbacks turned brittle, what moving to Hatchet changed, and the tradeoffs of leaning on a gem that is no longer maintained. They also talk about what happened whe...

Distinct summary based on available episode metadata or transcript content.

Ready to play

Joanna Wang: Code Is Cheap Now; Developers Still Valuable

0:00 42:37

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of On Rails?

This episode is 42 minutes long.

When was this On Rails episode published?

This episode was published on August 18, 2026.

Can I download this On Rails episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!