Joe Mathews on Newsom and California

Joe Mathews returns to the California Sun podcast to examine what he sees as the folly of Gov. Gavin Newsom's national political ambitions. The longtime California journalist and academic thinks Newsom will never be president, in part because California is so politically and culturally disconnected from the rest of the country, but also because Newsom himself is just too peculiar. He suggests Newsom might be better off trying to become president of an independent nation of California.