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EPISODE · May 12, 2026 · 27 MIN

Can Herbert, Dart, Daniels, and Lawrence reach another level? With Joe Theismann & Phil Simms

from Simms Complete · host Matt Simms

Phil Simms and Matt Simms welcome back NFL legend Joe Theismann to Simms Complete for a wide-ranging quarterback state of the union heading into the 2026 season. They dig into Justin Herbert's new partnership with Mike McDaniel, the growth of Jaxson Dart in New York, and Theismann's core belief that protecting mobile quarterbacks from themselves is the defining coaching challenge of the modern era. Theismann lavishes praise on Trevor Lawrence's breakout season under Liam Coen and draws a parallel to what he expects from Caleb Williams and CJ Stroud as they enter those critical Year 3-4 windows. The conversation rounds out with takes on Malik Willis inheriting the starter job in Miami, Aaron Rodgers reuniting with Mike McCarthy in Pittsburgh alongside newly drafted Drew Allar, and Theismann's personal stories about commanding respect from teammates. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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