John and Carla Ondrasik - Stop Trying: The Power of Doing Over Attempting

John Ondrasik, Grammy-nominated platinum-selling artist from Five for Fighting, joins the show alongside his wife Carla Ondrasik to discuss her transformative new book "Stop Trying." Carla shares insights from her 20 years of research into how the word "try" holds people back from achieving their goals. The couple discusses their partnership dynamic, with John reflecting on how Carla discovered him as a music publisher and has been his biggest supporter throughout his career. Carla explains the neuroscience behind why saying "I'm going to do" versus "I'm going to try" literally changes brain activity and actions, moving from neutral to drive mode.The conversation explores how Carla built her career after arriving in California at 17 with just a suitcase, forcing her way into success without the luxury of trying. John shares how this philosophy has influenced his own career, including navigating record label closures and achieving number-one hits. They discuss the importance of eliminating excuses and embracing accountability in both personal and professional life. Carla emphasizes that honesty and truth-telling are the most important values she's learned. The episode concludes with discussion of her promotional tour and John's upcoming Five for Fighting shows, demonstrating how their mutual support system continues to drive both their successes.