John Hancock on Sir Bernard Freyberg's heroic wartime swim and our annual ANZAC Day tribute episode artwork

EPISODE · Apr 11, 2025 · 43 MIN

John Hancock on Sir Bernard Freyberg's heroic wartime swim and our annual ANZAC Day tribute

from Swim Chats · host Shona Riddell

Our first 'swim history' episode! Featuring special guest John Hancock, a marathon swimmer and the organiser of this year's ANZAC Day swim in Wellington. In this episode John tells the story of the brave, accomplished, and fascinating Sir Bernard Freyberg who painted himself in black and undertook a stealthy nighttime swim in Gallipoli during World War One. We also discuss a few other notable swimmers in history: John F Kennedy, Kahe Te-Rau-o-te-Rangi, and Mao Zedong. Finally, John Hancock reflects on his own 'big' swims, across Lake Taupō and Cook Strait / Raukawa Moana.Lots of background links for this one – it is a history episode, after all!⁠Shona's family war tortoise⁠ (Great War Stories, NZHistory.govt. nz). ⁠ANZAC biscuit recipe⁠ (Edmonds Cooking) Bernard Freyberg's Wikipedia pageImage of Freyberg (taken in 1904 at Te Aro Baths in Wellington) is courtesy of Horowhenua Historical Society inc, Levin, New Zealand 'Debunking Freyberg's Mexican myth' – NZ International Review'When Sir Bernard tried to swim the Channel' – Greymouth Evening Star, August 1950, via paperspast.natlib.govt.nzKahe Te-Rau-o-te-Rangi, who swam from Kāpiti Island to the mainland in 1824 (Eleanor Spragg. 'Te Rau-o-te-rangi, Kahe', Dictionary of New Zealand Biography, first published in 1990, updated July, 2013. Te Ara - the Encyclopedia of New Zealand)'The swim that changed Chinese history' (Mao Zedong's river swims) The China Project, 14 July 2021.'Caroline Kennedy recreates her father JFK's heroic wartime swim.' CNN, August 2023. (correction: JFK's crew were attacked by a Japanese boat, not a plane as I incorrectly stated in this episode)John Hancock talks about his Cook Strait and Lake Taupō swims on the Effortless Swimming podcast*Support the podcast via ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/SwimChats⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Swim Chats on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hit 'Follow' so you don't miss an episode. Thanks for listening! :-)

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