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EPISODE · Sep 26, 2025 · 53 MIN

John McWhorter & Clifton Duncan – Becoming Thomas Sowell

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The Glenn Show is almost entirely listener supported. We need your help in order to keep bringing you the conversations you can't hear anywhere else. To get early episodes and much, much more, become a full subscriber at my Substack.You can keep tabs on Clifton’s progress and support his work at his Substack, Becoming Thomas Sowell.Video Links0:00 A Hard Day’s McWhorter3:51 Jimmy Kimmel and the collapse of the“bluegeois” paradigm9:47 Ground News ad11:30 Ideological gatekeeping in the arts17:02 The Gamergate-ification of everything25:50 John: Wokeness isn’t dead, it’s changed shape33:11 Clifton’s one-man show in-progress, Becoming Thomas Sowell35:21 Sowell at Cornell40:10 The challenge to Sowell’s conception of “the civil rights vision”43:36 The pressures of bringing Sowell to the stage45:58 Clifton: I think of Sowell as “the people’s intellectual”Recorded September 20, 2025Links and ReadingsJohn and Clifton’s previous conversation on The Glenn ShowClifton’s Substack, Becoming Thomas SowellThomas Sowell’s book, A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political StrugglesSowell’s book, Knowledge and DecisionsThurgood on Amazon PrimeSowell’s book, Black Education: Myths and TragediesDonald Downs’s book, Cornell ‘69: Liberalism and the Crisis of the American UniversitySowell’s book, On Classical EconomicsMark Whitaker’s book, Saying It Loud: 1966—the Year Black Power Challenged the Civil Rights MovementSowell’s book, Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality?Jason Riley’s latest appearance on TGSJason’s book, Maverick: A Biography of Thomas SowellSowell’s memoir, A Personal Odyssey This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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