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EPISODE · Apr 4, 2025 · 57 MIN

John McWhorter & Richard Kahlenberg – Rethinking Affirmative Action

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Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.comVideo Links0:00 Intro 1:03 How Rick feels being a “liberal maverick,” according to the NYT 4:18 Rick’s advocacy for class-based affirmative action 6:39 Rick: “The Trump administration has gone too far” by trying to eliminate racial diversity 13:02 Opening up the elite university’s old boys club 21:21 Will economic diversity in admissions come with test score disparities? 23:55 Ground News ad 25:56 What’s Edward Blum’s deal? 29:36 Rick: The Democratic Party needs to ask itself why it lost to Trump 34:48 The black allies of class-based affirmative action 40:53 Is vocational training a viable alternative to four years of college? 44:48 Addressing the development problem among black students 52:52 Rick’s hopes for a new Democratic PartyLinks and ReadingsRick’s new book, Class Matters: The Fight to Get Beyond Race Preferences, Reduce Inequality, and Build Real Diversity at America’s CollegesPew poll on race and ethnicity in college admissionsGlenn and John’s 2023 conversation with Peter ArcidiaconoThe 1966 Coleman report, Equality of Educational OpportunityRick’s book, Excluded: How Snob Zoning, NIMBYism, and Class Bias Build the Walls We Don't SeeRick’s Atlantic piece, “Liberal Suburbs Have Their Own Border Wall”Progressive Policy Institute This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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