John McWhorter, Eli Lake, and Matthew Cockerill – Debating Civilian Casualties in Gaza

Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.comVideo Links1:08 Intros 4:24 Matthew: The IDF recklessly disregarded civilian life in its October 2023 bombing campaign 9:01 Eli: Israel made efforts to warn civilians ahead of bombings 15:31 Ground News ad 17:35 Are Gazan civilian deaths part of Hamas’s strategy or merely an effect of its strategy? 23:39 Counting casualties in the fog of war 30:04 If Hamas is still partially intact, can a ceasefire hold? 33:28 ACTA ad 38:53 Why Matthew thinks Israel was intentionally killing civilians early in the war 48:41 Is Matthew holding Israel to a different standard than he would hold the US? 52:39 Alternative strategies for prosecuting the war 56:16 Do civilian warnings negate the question of murderous intent? 1:01:46 Eli: I don’t think Jewish critics of the war are speaking for the larger diaspora 1:10:05 Is further normalization between Israel and the rest of Middle East coming despite the war? 1:15:10 Matthew: Israel clandestinely continued its initial starvation strategy in Gaza for monthsRecorded January 17, 2025Links and ReadingsTrailer for Eli’s forthcoming Free Press podcast, Breaking HistoryMatthew’s YouTube show, History SpeaksAirwarsAirwars’ Gaza Patterns of Harm reportYuval Abraham’s +972 piece, “‘Lavender’: The AI Machine Directing Israel’s Bombing Spree in Gaza”Bethan McKernan and Harry Davies’s Guardian piece, “‘The Machine Did It Coldly’: Israel Used AI to Identify 37,000 Hamas Targets”Patrick Kingsley et al’s NYT piece, “Israel Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civilians”Shaiel Ben-Ephraim on XGlenn’s conversation with Omer BartovMotty Perry and Ariel Rubinstein’s Haaretz piece, “It’s Impossible Not to Know What’s Going on in Gaza” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe