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Oct 25, 2024 1 hr 2 min

John McWhorter – Glenn and John Throw Down over The Message

from The Glenn Show Hosted by Glenn Loury

Incogni is your personal data defender, safeguarding you from these digital predators. 1:22 The Coates debate continues 3:18 John: Coates is a beautiful writer, but … 5:44 John: … The Message is suffused with incuriosity and simplistic thinking 13:45 Glenn: Coates is talking about humanism and power, not race 18:11 Ground News ad 20:25 Is it “all about whitey”? 22:11 Glenn: Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote this book. What am I doing? 27:40 What kind of historical imagination is at work in The Message? 34:11 Moral clarity or abdication of responsibility? 36:30 Pro-Palestinian writers John considers acceptable 41:54 The next entries in Glenn and John’s book club 42:04 Coates’s now notorious interview on CBS Mornings 48:45 What is the black intellectual’s role today? 52:16 The counterexample of South Africa Recorded October 19, 2024 Links and Readings Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message Glenn and John’s previous conversation John’s NYT column, “Ta-Nehisi Coates and the Myth of Black Fragility” Michael Chabon’s novel, The Yiddish Policemen’s Union Jeffrey Sachs on YouTube Judge Andrew Napolitano on YouTube Trevor Noah’s conversation with Coates Ezra Klein’s conversation with Coates Peter Beinart’s conversation with Coates David Greenberg’s new book, John Lewis: A Life Karen and Barbara Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative James Baldwin’s essay, “Letter from a Region in My Mind” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe

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