John McWhorter – Sixteen Years of "The Black Guys"

0:00 A sixteen-year-long conversation5:45 Race and socioeconomics on the cusp of the Obama Era21:19 The myth of black poverty and deindustrialization32:56 Glenn pulls rank37:59 Why Glenn changed his mind about the Manhattan Institute50:15 Is the think tank world any more “objective” than academia?Recorded August 19, 2023Links and ReadingsGlenn and John’s first conversation from November 7, 2007John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black AmericaJohn’s book, Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black AmericaGlenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial InequalityMartin Peretz’s memoir, The Controversialist: Arguments with Everyone, Left, Right, and CenterJeffrey O.C. Ogbar’s book, Hip-Hop Revolution: The Culture and Politics of RapCharles Murray’s book, Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit glennloury.substack.com/subscribe