John Swinney on his next steps for independence ... and his thoughts on Peter Murrell

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After the UK Government rejected devolving the relevant powers for indyref2 to the Scottish Parliament, we sat down with First Minister John Swinney to discuss what happens now. Join The National today with a subscription from just 73p for 3 months at thenational.scot/subscribe

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