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Dec 27, 2018 5 min

John Winthrop ep.16

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This is one of my papers on different kinds of liberty, Federal and Civil liberty, moral, and natural liberty. I mean, I don't know about all those but "Give me Liberty or give me Death! The good and the bad that come with that liberty.

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Well, as Mark's here, welcome to listen at your own risk. Today, we're going to be talking about John Winthrop. So he's another, he was a deputy governor who is known for his twofold liberty. So he wrote the federal and civil liberty, which is the liberty for man to follow the government to law and to protect his right and the restraints of the authorities.

So he's writing the restraints of the authorities, so the government. Now, moral liberty is the other liberty that gives, so the paper is about liberty and the observation of liberty. All right, moral of it is the other liberty that gives law between man and God that lets you do everything right. You know, God's sight after that, there is the natural liberty, which lets you do what you want according to your nature, if the unrestrained liberty.

I read the second letter because God says, I shall not walk about the wicked. My opinion of liberty is the observation of blessing and curses of liberty, which that's the, how I see liberty. Liberty is a curse because liberty gives you a choice to do what is wrong, such as cheating line, killing, et cetera. But liberty can go the totally opposite way as a blessing, people using it to do what is right, which is pleasing.

So then, the only way to have a perfect world in theory is like for God to take away our liberty. Kind of like, in that movie I wrote by Wolf Smith, I don't know if you've seen that, but it's excellent. It's more or less, yeah, you can have a perfect world because humans aren't perfect. So the solution would be to more or less eliminate free will.

So because if he takes away our liberty, then he can control us to do what is right and perfect. Like the robot was trying to remember her name. Yeah, but, and then I don't think God should take away our liberty because if he did, our whole life would be planned out, which then we wouldn't make mistakes that we do with liberty, which is good for us, although we don't always think is good for us. We learn one more first.

Thanks, and we do from our victories. At least I do. And then, which is funny. And then again, in the Bible on this theory, God says that he knows everything, what is now, and what is to come in the future.

So I could be totally wrong. But another way people have interpreted that is like that he knows, we still have free will, but it's like anybody who just knows every single possibility, every choice you can make. So then he just knows every outcome that is to come. But yeah, so more or less what I'm saying is I have no idea.

So thank you for listening. I think this is an interesting theory on people who debate and how you can make the perfect world. It's not necessarily possible because we're all humans. So being human more or less is being flawed or not being perfect.

So they're radically can never be such a thing as a perfect world. Not to say that there can't be a good one or that there can't be a lot of good. And which I think there already is and there is lots of good. Then it goes on a lot more than the bad.

Just the bad gets remembered more because it affects people bigger. So just kind of like mistakes. You remember those more and you learn from those just because they have a lot of times seem to have a bigger impact on you.

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