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EPISODE · Aug 10, 2026 · 47 MIN

Joining the Dots

from Courage and Confidence · host Lee Iggulden & Michelle Rogers

SHOW NOTESIn this episode, Lee and Michelle turn an unplanned recording slot into a surprisingly rich conversation about trusting the process of life.The discussion kicks off with a quote from Steve Jobs’ 2005 commencement address at Stanford:"You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards, so you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future."That idea sparks a wide-ranging conversation covering:The difference between gut instinct and impulsiveness, and why Lee has learned to pause before engaging her mouthHow ADHD shapes Lee's natural enthusiasm and decisiveness, and what she is learning about tempering that with reflectionSoren Kierkegaard's complementary thought: "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards"How Lee and Michelle approach risk very differently, and why that contrast makes them a stronger teamThe role of courage in making decisions that are not permanent, and being willing to pivot when something does not workHow Lee's business, Welshot, navigated the pandemic with no proper internet connection, running Zoom photography lessons off a mobile hotspot from homeWhy looking back at past decisions with a positive lens can build the neurological confidence to make bold decisions in the futureA little detour into growing potatoes in tubs, subscription gardening boxes, and new potatoes at Christmas in New ZealandMichelle also sets listeners a small piece of homework: think of a time when something unexpected happened and you had to change course. Can you look back now and see how the pieces fell into place? And does that give you more courage for whatever is unfolding right now?Quotes mentioned:Steve Jobs on connecting the dotsSoren Kierkegaard on living life forwardsMarie Forleo: "Everything is figureoutable"Connect with Lee and Michelle using the link in the show notes. If you have questions or ideas for the show, they would love to hear from you. And if you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or colleague who might need a little courage and confidence today.Click to send us a message.Find Lee at:Website: https://welshotimaging.co.uk/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leeatwelshot/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lee.igguldenFind Michelle at:Web: https://www.thinkingspacecoaching.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingspacecoaching/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmichellerogers/

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SHOW NOTES In this episode, Lee and Michelle turn an unplanned recording slot into a surprisingly rich conversation about trusting the process of life. The discussion kicks off with a quote from Steve Jobs’ 2005 commencement address at Stanford: "You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards, so you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future." That idea sparks a wide-ranging conversation covering: The difference between gut instin...

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