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You can't do that this quickly. I feel like the haters might... I don't know what all those things are called. Frauds, you're saying.
Frauds. Sometimes the haters are right. When the haters are right, you've got to say, great job, haters. If nothing, I'm consistent about congratulating the haters.
I don't want to say that we're fully frauds yet. No, you're not. That's a tough divisional game. And also, the Commanders being frauds, nobody expected anything out of them, so it's hard to say if they're fraud.
However, tonight gave me some deeper concerns than I thought that a loss would give me. No. Not necessarily about being a fraud, but I'll tell you a couple things that gave you pause. Number one, what are you laughing at, Hank?
You piece of shit. You asshole. You fucking dickhead. I apologize.
That was rude. Why are you laughing already, you piece of shit? I'm laughing at Hayes laughing. I know.
I know. It's like when someone dies, you accidentally laugh. You don't mean to laugh. That was unnecessary, and I apologize.
You die? You laugh when people die? I don't. It sounds like you do.
No, like a movie or a TV show or whatever. I'm sorry. A movie or a TV show? Or someone says something really sad or something unexpected.
Are you talking about scurbing enthusiasm? Kind of. Yeah, that's right. I'm the kind of guy who laughs at a funeral.
I don't have nothing to do with Jane Daniels. You shut the fuck up. I was at the game of the play. Max, I'm not talking to you.
I'm going to talk to you. Now I'm laughing at PFT. Not laughing at you, but laughing at your reaction. Shut up, Italian.
Here's the thing. The thing that gave me pause about this game, the coaching decisions. Dan Quinn, when he went for it, I'm actually okay with it. I am too.
He's being aggressive. Yes, three points gives you the lead in that case. And we're talking about the field goal that he kicked when he was down 10 to 12. Or didn't kick.
Did not kick. Elected to go for it in fourth down where it looked like the offensive line didn't have the right time to play. It was just a fumble. Never went anywhere.
Bad play. Bad result. The process, I'm okay with going for it because for the first time tonight, our offense looked good on that drive. And fuck it.
Let's just go and get two yards. We've done it before. We're pretty good in fourth down. That thing gave me pause as much as the offense when we're down two scores at the end of the game and we burn up four minutes.
I believe there's like five minutes left in the game. Burn up four minutes on the clock. We're running the ball. We're not calling timeouts.
Running the ball, running the ball, throwing inside passes. It seemed like, I don't think that Cliff Kingsbury understands that 26 minus 10 is 16 and that 16 is a two score game. 16 divided by 2 is 8. Now, we've gone over this on the show.
There's some 16 point leads that look enormous. Yeah. They look like they're much bigger than 16 points. 26 to 10 is a pretty easy one.
It's the easiest to comprehend. It's the easiest to comprehend. It's not like you're skipping over two different sets of 10. 26 minus 10 is 16.
Exactly. It's very easy. Look, the players on the field knew that it was a two score game, but the plays that were being called, it didn't feel like the guy who was calling it knows that's a two score game. And here's what this gets at, is going back to Cliff's entire existence in the second half of seasons.
So back at Texas Tech, here's his record as a head coach from 2013 to 2018 at the end of the season. Lost five of six. Lost four of six. Lost four of six.
Lost six of eight. Lost six of eight. Lost five of five. At the Cardinals, he lost seven of his last nine.
Then he lost five of his last seven. Then he lost five of his last six. Then he lost nine of his last 10. His offense looks completely different right now.
We had Austin Eckler. That's pretty much it. Jaden Daniels, a lot of drops tonight. A lot of drops out there.
But no, Jaden did not look good. He didn't look nearly as good as he... That was his worst game by far that he had tonight. Missed open guys.
Made some questionable decisions. Felt timid on a few passes. Didn't look particularly fast even. I do want to give credit to the Eagles defense line.
Yeah. Eagles defense line. That was the game. And the linebackers played outstanding.
And the secondary played pretty good too. The Eagles played very well tonight. The fourth and two that you didn't go for the field goal, which I agreed with, that was the game because you had second and one, and they stood up on three straight plays. That was phenomenal.
That was great. And Big Cat, you brought it up in the broadcast. I've said it before, but Cliff, without the sunglasses. It's brutal.
Listen, it's not hot. I, more than anybody else, understand that sometimes you look a lot better when you're wearing sunglasses all the time. Yeah. He should keep the sunglasses on.
We're like a pink guy. Okay, so, Jaden Daniels didn't play well, but he's a rookie. Yeah. And he had a bad rookie game.
Who cares? Yeah. It was a tough divisional game. You said it before.
I think we all knew it going in. The Eagles have a better roster. They didn't. That's just a fact.
So it's not... To win that game would have been very difficult. You have the Cowboys, the Titans, and the Saints coming up. You're still a Yoss team.
Yep. So, you know. I just wondered, what percent chance of Yoss are we at? On the machine or in my brain?
In your brain. In my brain, 90. Still high. In the machine, probably 76.
I'm going to guess. Still high. We're in the Yoss right now. Yeah.
79. That was really good. But in my brain. But we also haven't had the week 11 yet.
Yep. But if loss. Max, I... Oh, they do.
But what if the 49ers... Oh, but what about the 49ers? Oh. It's just like right now, in this moment, it was like...
It didn't change at all. It went from 80% to 79. Max, I apologize for calling you fat Italian. No, that's fine.
I deserve that. Because obviously you were nervous, you were very nervous going into this game. You can tell when Max was nervous, he was like, he kind of slapped me on the back at one point. Just kind of before, like three hours before the game, kind of just...
Knocked the football out of your hand. Yeah, bouncing around. Like, you know, he was basically a little kid that needed like a weighted blanket for the last three hours before kickoff. You know I'm not good in the bright lights.
I know. And you had Dave here, you had Groot here. That was... That had Max lost written all over it.
So my question to you, though, is the game, the Eagles. I want to hear how you feel about the Eagles, but I also want you to hear how you feel about Jayden Daniels, because you were nervous about Jayden Daniels, and he has been very good this year, and he's going to be in your division for a very long time. That was your first dance with him. Tell us where your head's at.
Jayden Daniels will be a very good quarterback in this league. Jayden Daniels is still a rookie, and that's something that I think was very evident tonight. I think it's something that you have seen a lot when he has played good defenses. It's back-to-back games against two top defenses, and he's looked like a rookie quarterback.
But that's okay, because you expect that from a rookie quarterback to struggle against good defenses, and to do well against bad defense. So going into this year, that's exactly what you want. But Jayden Daniels, I don't think, is, as a rookie, a Super Bowl winning quarterback, because no rookies are a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That's true.
I would still, by the way, I would still cut off a notch for that line. Jayden Daniels, 22 for 32, 191 yards, one touchdown, one interception. I would fucking... You told me that was Gale's line on Sunday.
Don't forget about the drops. Sign me the fuck up. Plus the drops. Yeah.
How many of those yards were? I mean, a lot of those yards came in. That garbage time. Yeah, I mean, it was...
Well, the drive where we did not get the field goal, that was a good drive, too. And I want to call that garbage time. Right, right, right. So he got a lot of yards then.
But I'm counting those yards. I'm not going to say that Jayden Daniels played even an average game tonight. He played a bad game tonight. He was all for the back.
He missed a lot of easy throws. He's a rookie quarterback. He's a rookie quarterback. He's a rookie quarterback.
And I think he might be injured, though. I'm not making excuses. But the drops and the injuries. I said that before the game.
I said that before the game. I said that. You can tell he's not... He's a little more tentative to run the ball ever since the red injury.
It was funny, though. Watching the game with Coach Gruden, he saw Jayden warming up with a basketball, and he was disgusted. Disgusted. What is this, man?
Play basketball out here? Come on. Get that man a football, man. He was...
Damn it. This bitch. This bitch. Again, then you start to get worried.
I'm like hovering over the panic button, but I'm not clicking the panic button on Jake Elliott yet. That was terrible. Realistically, the Eagles should have scored 35 points in this game. Can you issue a statement to the city of Philadelphia and Eagles fans?
How should they be treating Jake Elliott moving forward? Treat him like... Treat him the same from this game. But if he has one more bad game, panic, panic.
The clip of him pacing the sidelines, double tapping his head, you never want to see that out of your kicker. Ever. That was bad. That's like what I do.
Yeah. That's like what I do. I gotta get myself right. And I for sure don't have the mentals to be an NFL kicker.
No. But it's good that we have a little mini-buy now because it'll be even more time for him to get this game out of his head. Yep. He can watch some games this weekend.
Chill out. Yeah, no. Also, the one seed's not going to happen because the Lions schedule is significantly easier than... Yeah, we still are at Ravens and home against the Steelers at Commander.
Yeah, the Lions have the Packers and the Bills at home and the 49ers on the road. So, I don't know. Maybe. Hey.
49ers on the road. But the two seed wouldn't be bad either. Yeah, two seed's good. I would like.
I know. You want the one seed. I would like the one seed, but it's all right. We're on the next weekend, Sunday night, against the Rams in L.A.
That's a tough game. That's a tough game. I can't believe we lost the Shark Week game. Yeah, I was very nervous because I met the Eagles tonight and I was...
When the first half happened and the Commanders were up and the Eagles were missing every field goal and the Amazon broadcast was like, yeah, Dan Quinn decided this was Shark Week. And he's been just showing clips of shark attacks and Jaws. I was like, this is Mike McCarthy smashing a watermelon all over again. Yeah.
The problem with Shark Week... And I think Dan Quinn was there for the smashing of the watermelon. I think he was. Yeah.
So, the Shark Week problem is that Dan Quinn, as a boomer, looks back fondly on Shark Week. Back when Shark Week was good. Also, don't think I would use Jaws for Shark Week because Jaws is an incredible movie, one of the best movies of all time, but... Who wins?
Like, to today's age, you watch Jaws and you're like, that's a fake shark. Who wins, though? Does the shark survive? I don't think so.
So, yeah. Dan Quinn probably didn't know that. Yeah, he probably should have. Do a movie where the shark wins?
Yeah. Shark Week. Hey, do you have any thoughts on the game? Commanders look bad.
I was honestly thinking... That was half a sentence. Commanders look bad. I was honestly thinking because Coach Gruden on the stream also, it was asking about Caleb Williams or Drake May.
Yeah, he said Drake May. And he said Drake May. Drake May is going to be a superstar. Patriots look good.
Commanders look good. Basically, he should be on a three-game losing streak. What does that mean? Whose line would it be anyway if the Patriots played the Commanders next week?
At where? This is what I was saying on Wednesday. In Washington. This is what I was saying.
People were confusing. People were confusing. You're insane. I'm just thinking.
This is way worse than what I did. This is what I was saying on Wednesday. These are my words. This is what I was saying.
People were like, oh, you're saying Gene Daniels. No, no, no. I think Gene Daniels is really good. Caleb Williams, we got problems.
The fucked up nature of this podcast is this guy on the couch is now going to be like, I got the superstar. I think the spread, in all honesty, Hank, in Landover, Hank, I think the spread, we definitely have some bookmakers that listen to this game, right? Tell us the hypothetical spread. My guess is Commanders, five and a half.
Yeah. Plus, at home? I think we're just five and a half point underdogs to the Bears. The Bears quit.
Yeah, I thought it was interesting that, you know. He did say Drake May is a superstar. In football mind, John Gruden, when asked about the number one pick, he said he would take the number three pick, which I was assuming he would take the number three pick over the number two pick. John Gruden has never coached.
I don't think he's coached a first-round quarterback. But he's evaluated all of them. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, he has evaluated all of them.
That's a fair point. Listen, I think Drake May is very good. We're going to talk about it, actually, more. And I said something about Drake May that is a very high compliment in the Picks and Preview, but just...
You asked my opinion. Yeah, I did. Fuck. Yes, I did.
I asked his opinion. I was watching him being like, this game is terrible. I did ask his opinion. What's your opinion about the game?
The game, I mean, the Eagles have no kicker. That's going to be a major problem. He's a good kicker. He just had a terrible night.
He's a bad game. No, not even close. So that's what I'm saying. No, the extra point was where it was really...
If you're going into a playoff game, like if you're saying you're not going to be worried about him having a bad game, you're lying. And the Commanders turning back into the pumpkin, 76% playoff percent chance. It doesn't look good. You're taking the 24%.
I think I might be. I mean, they lost to the Bears, and the Bears quit. Fact check. They did not lose to the Bears.
But also, and a double fact check, that was before the Bears quit. That's true. Bears quit at the last play of the Cardinals game. At halftime.
I'm also just... This did not have an effect on the outcome of the game, probably. But I would like to see Hill Mary at the end of the first half. Yeah.
You're at the, what, 47-yard line? I agree. And we just run the ball? Like, why not try Hill Mary?
He's lifetime 1,000% on Hill Mary's in the NFL. Agreed. I have one more time. Any quarterback can make that throw.
Let's try it. Yeah. We, as a national podcast, need to... Quinton Mitchell is the top five.
Toledo, match it. It's incredible. He's awesome. The things that he has done this year.
He's awesome. And it looks like you guys have finally... Like Vic Fangio's defense, you know when it starts to work, and it's starting to work. Can I read it?
Yeah, please. I guess top receivers this year. Please. Hackers, week one.
They don't have a true one. Gave up one reception for six yards. Drake, London. One reception, five yards.
Chris Alave, two receptions, 23 yards. Mike Evans, two receptions, 19 yards. Amari Cooper, one reception, 10 yards. Malik Neighbors, one reception, 9 yards.
Jamar Chase, two receptions, 19... yards jaguars one reception 11 yards cd lamb two receptions 14 yards terry mclaurin zero reception zero yards that's incredible i mean that's going through a gauntlet as a rookie and being coming out yeah unbelievably yeah he's he's awesome happy for you max very happy as a national podcast we had to mention that i don't know why you said the national podcast thing because i want the national media isn't saying anything oh god we are the national media correct so now we fix that i appreciate max because we try to get it right when we can yeah we do so in the spirit in the spirit of getting it right i'd like to correct max uh terry mclaurin did not get shut out for zero he had one catch no that's against him oh against him okay yeah where was he because that was that's what worries me about james we didn't even really try to pass i know it was a lot of dump offs and like we took the entire plane out of austin eckler and zapper where were his shot plays because he's been throwing those so perfectly didn't take any deep shots really uh that's why i think he might not be healthy and trying to play off short rest but rib injury is probably not good for him but um yeah listen i i feel like i'm being quite illusional and uh i will still take the 76 chance you also and we do this every single week and i think that there's uh maybe sometimes people listen to this at friday morning when we have to record right after a loss it is always a different mindset than like tomorrow morning like when you get us right after a loss it will always be the worst and most overreacting thing i think tomorrow morning you're gonna wake up and be like we're gonna be fine i'm gonna say something good about the commander's side one one bright thing mike sandersfield yeah cornerback that's a guy michigan five foot nine had him on aj aj brown's been cooking hold on before you do this um you should say that it's because we're national podcast that guy is awesome i love that dude he's undersized he's he's a fucking what's a different name for a honey bad he's a wolverine he's a little wolverine is what he is and yeah he played great defense tonight when he was on aj especially the red zone he pretty much shut him down when they were matched up against each other um so love that guy and at least we have a good cornerback move forward plus haven't gotten a lot more out there this game is totally different with a lot more out there yeah i would agree with that probably not okay we ran i know yeah i'm going through stages of cope right now okay so my stage of cope include cliff kingsbury has been bad in the last three weeks um he might be on the downside but at least that means that no team will try to hire cliff kingsbury as a head coach because he's kind of taking some of that genre that's one of the stages of coping another stage is we're getting an impact free agent uh from the new orleans saints yeah who's currently on our roster right now that hasn't played yet because we're a national podcast uh zach bond has also been great also great badger i thought about it i can't do two national podcasts yeah but badger you should badger well national podcast as a national podcast would you like to talk about zach bond yeah talk about the uh wisconsin badgers yeah zach bond played great tonight yeah badger he's really good national podcast yeah well would you like to think national podcast anything christian dollars from the game tonight yeah no no just talk about your guys luca luca had a great game tonight national podcast oh okay hey national podcast real quick national podcast we should shout out the cleveland cavaliers they're 13-0 national podcast that's pretty crazy 13-0 national podcast i'm looking at the standings right now it's like you thought this else would be there the magic would go to the knicks but the cats 13-0 how about that and it's like i mean the pistons are in there the bowls are the 60 there must be a oh the six are two and nine national podcast two and nine jerry mccain almost won the game by himself last night two and nine the national podcast the six are two and nine almost you missed almost won the game yeah we're building that was almost your third win we're building something guys national podcast you can see a couple superstars get in the mix and then you guys have a real team going right you're absolutely right maybe get them healthy and then you got a real team thanks hank yeah national podcast i'm very excited uh tonight is uh i think alabama versus purdue in college basketball i believe national podcast that's gonna be a great game national podcast uh national podcast um blake turns one and a half years oh wow tomorrow yeah national podcast national podcast we do half years national podcast love that raise awareness love that you should you should you should not do one and a half you should do 18 months 18 months yes that's right people like my dog is 18 months like what the 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the opposite result uh who do you think would be first in the afc the indianapolis colts no it'd actually be the cincinnati bangles would be eight and two eight and two and last would be the kansas city chiefs two and seven because they played all one score games uh in the nfc i love this stat it's the best what if what if the teams that were good at winning yeah what if what if every win was a loss yeah uh the what if standings for the nfc tampa bay would be seven and three that's the big notable switch also the giants be six and four and then the saddest part about this is the carolina panthers be one and nine so they would actually get worse so they're good and they punch above their weight class in close game it would get worse uh that's when you get blown out uh the jets uh would be five and five means still in it he wanted me to fact check you to make sure it wasn't the jets no five and five five and five you reverse all one score games oh thank you uh no they'd be out of the playoffs even in these this what if fantastical standings yeah in a fantasy land you can't stink in a fantasy land i just always like those because it is it is very funny like yeah what if everything was different so what i like about this weekend is there are like three games that are awesome yeah and then there's a just heaping amount of dog shit oh yeah oh yeah so let's let's start with it uh oh let me let me uh someone a listener said could you guys please say the line when you say the game and i will start doing that thank you to draft kings so we will start let me pull up uh the current lines let's start i got the lines right here if you just want to say the game yes it's uh we'll start with the ravens and the steelers okay we got the ravens favored by three on the road we're under 48 and a half uh okay so this to me is i'm very excited for this game because it will tell us a lot about the steelers i think the ravens i believe are going to be there no matter what because their offense feels unstoppable the steelers if they win this game why why not why not steal i already think why not i'm very close to thinking why not i would like to see it especially it's russell wilson against the ravens defense how hamilton's out so their secondary is banged up has not been great all year their run defense is elite so what happens when russell wilson wins if the steelers can't run the ball what's gonna happen this though is a strictly numbers game because here are the stats and it's ridiculous so this is 36th time tomlin and harbaugh have played against each other it's second all-time only to george hallis and curly lambeau over the last 20 years the underdog in the series is 28 10 and 3 74 against the spread and mike tomlin is a dog against harbaugh's 12 2 and 2 and then also here the final margins of the games between the steelers and ravens since 2020 7 points 7 points 3 points 2 points 3 points 1 point 5 points 4 points these teams just play tight games they don't like each other very much no love lost between these teams yeah throughout the record books when these teams get together uh lamar jackson as a starter yeah has only won one time at pittsburgh against pittsburgh so his only win was in 2019 and that's when devlin hodges duck is duck still around what's doing these i think in national uh yeah sure just hanging out i don't know when the kiddles house he's like he's like sometimes i'll throw a duck maybe i might be making that up that's i like that though for duck that's a great gig for duck if he just goes and throws wraps to george kiddle in the offseason yeah i like that that's probably just he's he's in the middle of the somewhere shooting a shotgun i don't know the answer but i like if that is the answer i like where he's at in that answer yeah he's probably very good life that's a really good one living off the land a floor like a guy who had a cup of coffee in the nfl started an nfl game as quarterback named duck hodges cleans up in nashville cleans up yep that's just a fact yeah so he's uh lamar's won three against pittsburgh duck hodges that was the only game that lamar has won um against the sealers so i love the sealers as an underdog i always do home game home underdog against the ravens this game my only qualm this game should be at night it should be a primetime game yeah uh it's unfortunate that it's not that it is in fact one of the early games yeah yeah so i don't i don't love that this will be sound sound main tv we're gonna have this is the crown jewel of the early slate yeah we have uh by the way we have eight games and we only have seven tvs that we look at we have obviously the eight tv off to our left so i think what we're gonna do is just put one game on the eight tv off to our left like that's usually the panthers game yeah that's usually they're on the bye week this week so it won't be it won't be this week i'm excited to see the schedule and i saw sealers playing the eagles i think december 15th the day of the uh of the hank and uh remember that fight hank's first knockout yeah personally knockout um that is going to be a matchup of the steelers and the eagles and that is when we're going to get an ejection between either george pickens or cd deuce yeah but will be but it's still gonna be a matchup between humphrey always is if they're on each other do you guys want a crazy lamar jackson stat yeah i have one it's from dry defender rs uh lamar jackson so last week uh the ravens were down 21 to 7 i believe at halftime that was the first time in 40 consecutive starts for lamar jackson so where he plays the majority of the game because obviously he's come out for diarrhea a few times 40 consecutive games uh without trailing by more than 10 points wow that's insane he also is currently still on his streak of 40 so this will be the 41st game uh without losing by more than seven lamar jackson like that's that's insane they just don't get blown like the ravens just don't get blown out yeah they're i mean they've been a very consistent team and lamar's been incredible and i i wonder did the steelers maybe show too much keeping jane daniels in the pocket they were very very good at that and highsmith is out which is big yeah that's a big one also uh hamilton's out for the ravens so a couple big injuries there uh they did a great job with their linebackers in the defense line patrick queen is awesome and he's pissed and he's pissed off that he did not get a contract uh i don't know what they offered him if they offered him uh in baltimore but he's pissed off about about playing up against the ravens and he's still playing like at the top of his ability yeah he's very fast there was one play last week where it was an rpo jayden fakes a handoff patrick queen takes a step inside towards the running back and then he beats jayden daniels to the sideline yeah keeping the ball yeah he's he's elite he might be he might be spying that's what jerry told us he's patrick queen's gonna spy yeah you said there was a snake in russell wilson's locker last week in his pants yeah in his dick that's what he called no he had there was a mom mentality a snake that was in the locker and then they couldn't find it but they escaped it are you saying an actual snake or is this something that russell wilson did and he's corny do you think he had like one of those fake snakes and you said if i said you hey russell wilson put a fake snake in his locker and said it's mama mentality time would you think that's i made that up well i might i said mama mentality yeah no but if he had said that if he said that i would buy it i would also i could also see russell wilson having a snake there and he's like there was a snake in my locker tried to get me to eat an apple before the game i turned to the lord i said no i said i said bank wish to be satan yeah that also happened yeah 100% happened uh okay i agree with you i like the Steelers in this game um next game package of bears go on longest winning streak in the nfl tenant matt lefort's never lost the bears he's 10-0 uh okay so this is not correct this is not right or justified but this is the way that i have to mentally get myself to a point where i can think the bears can beat the packers on sunday shane waldron is the antichrist shane waldron caused all the problems shane waldron every war tragedy anything you can think of in history shane waldron was the issue behind it uh that's the only again not right not justified shane waldron probably very nice guy not a great football coach that doesn't matter uh he's gone and the only way i can tell myself that the bears have a chance is that shane waldron was deliberately holding the bears back in every capacity and now everything's going to be different uh going forward also keenan allen's quote where he said shane waldron was just too nice of a guy that feels like it's all a mess yeah that's not good um shane waldron i don't know if you get the interim coordinator bump i don't know if that's a thing that happens well there has to be an element of the offense not having to deal with shane waldron that just makes them happier you know like when you have a guy that is clearly enough at his job just being uh no longer around that guy all the time gives you a little bit more confidence going again you don't know what you're gonna get but you know that it's not gonna be shane waldron yeah so what the bears are doing and we've made this joke before that uh you know sean mcveigh has such a great uh track record that it became a part of the nfl ecosystem that like if you got sean mcveigh's coffee you got a job the bears are testing that theory because shane waldron i think his highest level for the rams was passing game coordinator and he's gone and now we have thomas brown whose highest level for sean mcveigh was assistant head coach and tight ends coach now was it thomas brown didn't he call plays for the panthers last year for three weeks and then frank wright took it back yeah so we are really going to the bottom of the bottom of the barrel of if you were in the same room as sean mcveigh you know how to call uh nfl offense i don't think he does uh but the bears at least are testing the theory yeah somebody knew yes are there reports i saw reports that kaleb williams and and tom don't talk yeah that was weird that was weird he was a passing game coordinator before now he's an office coordinator and there's been a lot of reports that they don't really meet there's been a lot of reports there's been a lot of bad reports i also saw difference between russell wilson and kaleb williams did you see the clip from russini's podcast yeah i've done that clip a hundred times i know it's like the way it was all laid out tight was was honestly wild uh it says everything i've said a million times over but i'll say real quick again they basically uh since firing lovey smith they've gotten every timeline wrong phil emery tired mark tressman mark tressman leave phil emery Henry State, John Fox, drafted Mitch Trubisky, fired John Fox after a year. Then it was Matt Eberfluss, or sorry, Matt Nagy, I get my mask confused, who was there. So John Fox drafted, John Fox didn't even know he was drafting Mitch Trubisky, Ryan Pace did.
And then Matt Eberfluss came on, inherited Mitch Trubisky, never drafted Mitch Trubisky, didn't want Mitch Trubisky. And then Mitch Trubisky's gone, and they drafted Justin Fields, and Matt Nagy then gets fired, and Matt Eberfluss inherits Justin Fields, didn't want Justin Fields, drafted Caleb Williams, and then he's gonna get fired, and whoever the next guy is is gonna inherit Caleb Williams, probably not wanting Caleb Williams. Basically a history of coaches that didn't want the quarterbacks that they had, and then a bunch of general managers who didn't want the coach that they had. Yeah, just never actually hiring the right thing at the right time.
At the same time, they're never on the same page as each other, yeah. Yeah, it's a shit show, hey guys, it's a shit show. And it's the Packers. Shock the world.
I told you, by Sunday morning, I'm gonna believe that we're gonna win this game, because I haven't connected all the dots, but where was Shane Waldron on 9-11? Good question. Just asking. Did you see, by the way, did you see, so Carl blogged it, but there was an entire blog, he found, I think it was a Reddit post, that essentially was like, Paul Skeen's the sociopath, that's why he's so good at baseball, and they backtracked when he was born, and the theory is that his parents had sex on 9-11.
The butterfly effect? And they basically, like, blocked out all the noise of 9-11 and created Paul Skeen's. Did they, now, was this a little too much? How early in the morning?
Was this, like, before you get out of bed for work? It was just, yeah, you don't know the exact time, but yeah, people have way too much time on their hands, but I did think it was interesting. He was born mad. Yeah.
We like Paul Skeen's on the show. I love Paul Skeen's. I mean, it was a sociopath in a good way. Like, he's so locked in that he'd, like, his ability to lock in and outside noise and just, like, mow down hitters, like, that's why he's elite.
It wasn't a bad thing for him. Yeah, I know. Good guy. Yeah.
Very guest. Yeah. Okay. I don't have anything else in this game.
Packers are going to kill us. You never know. You never know. Division matchup.
I want Big Cat to be back. I'm going to bet on the Packers. I'm going to say, fuck it. No, Bears.
Sorry, yeah, bet against the Packers. Betting on the Bears. There's no reason why the Bears should win this game. Absolutely zero reason why they should do it.
But the NFL's a weird place. Weird shit happens. And chaos happens. Just, you need an ugly game.
You've got to get an ugly game going. You need, here's a recipe. You need Jordan Love to throw one of those weird, like, behind his back pick sixes. You need a defensive scorer.
You need Caleb to just do handoffs. Caleb, I hope that the new offense coordinator doesn't have Caleb doing all that weird shit at the line of scrimmage. I get it. If you're like Peyton Manning or if you're Tom Brady, if you've been in offense for a long time, have them direct the offense.
Why are you making a rookie quarterback do that? It made no sense since week one. Nothing makes sense. The level of responsibility that you put on Caleb Williams when Caleb hasn't done shit in the NFL yet.
Let him go out there and make easy throws. Don't have him trying to direct the symphony that is the weird, fucked up Bears offense. Because even if he's able to know all the plays and tell players where to go, right now, straight off the bat. The guy's mentally locked up because Matt Eberfuss is a fucking idiot and they're just doofuses.
And Kevin Warren tried to cancel the Big Ten because of COVID and he's the one who's calling the shots. And it's just, I hate everything. Everything sucks. We're just back in an exact same spot.
We're not bare football. We're not bare football, Big Cat. We're not handing the ball off to your running back and not letting him get sacked any time again. Not been great.
It'd be nice. I actually wouldn't hate it too if Caleb Williams threw an interception in this game because maybe he would be taking a shot that actually was close to someone. You know what my red flag on Caleb is? He's been throwing deep balls that aren't even close to being intercepted.
You know what my red flag is? What? He hasn't even cried this year. Yeah, he should cry.
I mean, the knock on him was he died after bad losses. He's definitely cried this year. He hasn't cried on camera. In private.
I mean, I've cried in private. So he's definitely cried. But I mean, there was something about him last year where he was taking losses so hard that he was crying. Yeah.
I'd like to see the man cry. It's a disaster. We're walking into a disaster. Also, our good friend Bear Down Cuz is going to come on the stream on Sunday from Bob the Sports Universe.
He came last year. Yeah. Great dude. So he'll be with us on the stream.
So at least we'll have an extra. The bear, they're going to be on no sound. I just, whatever. We'll see.
We'll see. They suck. They suck. Everything sucks.
The organization's a joke. The room kid Williams sucks. Speaking of the bears being frauds, did you see the clip that came out from California about the fraudulent bear? Well, but the bears are fraud.
Did you see the clip in California? So apparently these people are under investigation for insurance fraud. Every now and again, you see a camera, like a ring camera or like a security camera of a bear that climbs into somebody's car looking for food and mulls it up and tears it up from the inside. Apparently, there's been this group of people that have been dressing up as bears, wearing like scissors on their hands, climbing into cars, scraping them up, and then collecting all the insurance money because the car's all fucked up.
So they got like a human wearing a bear outfit, climbing into a car, trying to look like a bear, and then scraping it up on the inside. I just thought that was an interesting thing. I would love to be a fraud. Yeah.
We were frauds at 4-2. That's what I'm saying. Being a fraud, I'm loving life as a fraud. Real quick, I want to just go around the room.
I'm holding a number underneath my chair. 1 to 10. 10 being wins the Super Bowl. 1 being he's out of the league in like a year and a half.
What do you think about the future of Caleb Williams? Be honest. We're only holding one hand, so it's got to be between 1 and 5. Well, yeah, duh.
3. Okay. 7. That's a lie.
I said be honest. I would say higher than this, but the fact you only have one hand, I'll say 5. Okay. For one hand, I'll say 4, but I think he's an 8.
The name's got it. I think he's an 8. That's where I'm at. And it's not Caleb Williams.
The organization's fucking joke. Well, do you extend that same grace to the offensive coordinators that come in? Is it the Bears just working for the Bears that makes offensive coordinators suck? No, well, we hired the worst offensive coordinator on the market.
Yeah, that's true. I mean, Jackson Smith and Jacob laughed when he got hired. We all knew this was going to happen. It's not revisionist history.
It's just wishful thinking that went totally awry. Okay. Raiders and Dolphins. We're back to Gardner Minshew.
What were you going to say, Max? You had something else? No, I had nothing else. You were looking at me like you wanted to say something.
No, I just like Caleb Williams. I'm just like Caleb Williams. I love Caleb Williams. Who knows?
Who knows? It's year one. No, it's not. I appreciate you guys being nice.
I really do. As friends. You don't have to. Caleb Williams is the best quarterback prospect since Andrew Luck.
How many times did you hear that? Max, I agree. Caleb Williams is still a good quarterback. He just needs to get in a comfortable system.
He needs to not be surrounded by a hurricane of shit. And he needs his players to not hate him. He needs his wide receivers to not hate him. DJ Moore's got to get in.
I said that. All right. How about this? What if Caleb Williams right now, what if he was on the open market?
As a fruit for a trade? Easily. He's not. What do you give up for him?
First round pick? Ask me. He wants him. All right.
You can have him. I take him. First round pick. He's still a first round pick quarterback.
I still want him. I'm not trading him. There we go. See, that's all I needed you to say.
It's bad, but I'm not trading him. And Shane Waldron was the reason for all of this. Raiders at Dolphins. Line?
Oh, we got it right there. Yep. Raiders at Dolphins. It is going to be seven.
Minus seven for the Dolphins. Okay. Hank, you do the line. Over under 44.
Okay. Hank, we'll do the line. So we're back to Gardner Minshew. Also, we have to be full disclosure.
I think I speak for both of us, BFT, when I say that we're rooting for the Raiders offense to have some success because our friend Scott Turner is now the OC. Yep. We like Scott Turner. And Norv Turner.
His dad is working as a consultant with the team. Love that. Norvle. Bold with Scott Turner in the 2019 Final Four in Minneapolis.
I said Minneapolis. Minneapolis. Had a great night. Great time.
Knows brother, too. So we love the Turner. Yep. I don't know how the Raiders are going to be able to run the ball, though, and I think that's what Scott Turner wants to do.
Yeah, it's going to be a challenge for him, although we're getting Florida man Minshew. True. Good point. So you're always looking for what kind of spark you can get out of Minshew.
We always say if you put Minshew in as a backup quarterback, you get a spark. I feel like in the state of Florida, that's when you're going to get pure guard of Minshew. I know he's not from Florida, but he's got big-time Florida energy to him. I like the possibility of him doing some fuck shit this weekend.
Yeah. Now, this is a rest game, too. It is. It's a big-time rest game.
It's a bye-week for the Raiders, and then it's a short week for the Dolphins. We played on Monday night. So you might say to yourself, that heavily favors the Raiders in this situation. But the Dolphins are 5-0 against the spread when they are at a rest disadvantage since 2022.
So the Dolphins don't need sleep. Yeah. They're like sharks. Just keep swimming.
Also, Tua said he would do it again when going headfirst into a tackle. I think he also said that just discourages me from throwing interceptions. Sure. Yeah, whatever it takes.
I think we have to stop the hand-wringing about Tua. I know that everyone wanted him to maybe walk away. Tua knows what Tua knows at this point. I mean, if he's going to jump headfirst into people, it's like, what are you going to do?
Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, Tua wants to play football.
He wants to play football. You can't stop someone. I'm a believer in freedom of choice. You should be able to do this.
Yeah. The Dolphins, so they are just coming off. I believe they cut their team captain, which hardly ever happens. I can't think of another time that a team captain has been cut midseason.
Shane Waldron was our team captain. He was. Yeah. And Desmond Ritter is now being talked about by certain segments of Raiders fans as being the answer.
Ooh. So that's kind of a sad state of affairs that you've got in Las Vegas. Desmond Ritter is the answer. I don't know what the question is.
Yeah. What question could Desmond Ritter possibly be the answer to? I think this game, the Dolphins are second in pass blocking. The Raiders are 29th in pass rush.
But the Raiders do do a good job. They do the Chiefs defense where they just don't let explosives down the field. I think it might be a little tighter. I just don't know how the Raiders offense does anything.
And it's not because of Scott Turner. He's a very good play caller. Yeah. Ultimately, this might come down to football guy versus nerd.
Yeah. Who do you take? Antonio Pierce or Mike Daney? Okay.
Next game. Colts at Jets. Colts at Jets. Line, Hank?
That was your only job. Right here. I'm sorry. Minus four.
The over-under is 43 and a half. You do the lines now. Line, Max. I can do the lines.
I just don't know what game you're going to go to. Max hasn't pulled up. I haven't pulled up. Thanks out.
Okay. Max. Colts at Jets. Memes.
Jeff Ulbrich said to the team that they're going to return to fundamentals of tackling and be in pads and then need a tackling presentation for the team before practice. What do we think about that? Sometimes you've got to keep some things to yourself. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a media training for Jeff. Yeah. Don't say anything.
This is why Jeff isn't... You don't have a head coach. No. He ruined all chances of becoming a head coach.
He was going to get some interviews in the offseason. And now he's... I don't know if he was a head coach. No.
He was going to get some. Oh, really? Yeah. But then he got promoted to head coach.
Who told you that? Tyson Bajon's dad? A bunch of Florios. Okay.
A bunch of Florios. You hear the good Florios. You've got two Florios on your shoulder at any given time. And depending on what mood you're in, you listen to Angel or the Demon.