Jon Osborn and Allen Crater, outdoor experience and writing.

Pardon the audio issues with the hosts mic on this episode and a big thank you to Jon and Allen for really carrying the conversation. This is a camp talk in almost every way and you're invited to sit nearby and hear most of it. This will be the most existential episode of the 2024 season and doesn't disappoint in that regard. Thank you to our sponsors Aspen Thicket Grouse Dogs aspenthicketgrousedogs.com Pine Hill Gun Dogs [email protected] Second Chance Bird dogs Field Armor fieldarmorusa.com Collar Clinic collarclinic.com Wild Card Outfitters and Guide Service wildcardoutdoors.com