Jonathan Swan Pulls Back the Curtain on Trump's White House

After Monday's emotional episode, Meghan reflects on the overwhelming response from viewers following her tribute to Senator Lindsey Graham and shares an update on his legacy as South Carolina names his sister, Darline Graham Nordone, to temporarily fill his Senate seat. Then, New York Times White House correspondent Jonathan Swan joins the show to discuss his bestselling new book Regime Change and takes listeners inside Trump's second administration. Meghan and Miranda ask about JD Vance's political future, Marco Rubio's role, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk's lasting influence, Elon Musk, Natalie Harp, and what it's really like behind closed doors in the White House. Jonathan also shares why reporting on Trump's second term has been far more difficult than the first. Plus, the latest from Michigan's Senate race, the Democratic identity crisis, a Taco Bell health scare, Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, and Meghan's unexpectedly controversial shoes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices